20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

[North Cardiff Blue]

traffic congestion is caused by more cars on the road, not driving a bit slower.

the report I read concluded there were some pros and cons with regards to air pollution but overall the difference was negligible in either direction.

Was it you who wanted Crystal Geln closed? If so less pollution in your street, but much more other side

[G rangetown Blue]

Most countries in Europe / World, have 20mph / 30kmh limits in built up areas…..why wouldn’t we in Wales ?

[Dave Blue]

Most countries in Europe / World, have 20mph / 30kmh limits in built up areas…..why wouldn’t we in Wales ?

Because many of our right leaning friends don’t feel Wales should decide its own laws, especially on the right to plough down a child because they want to get somewhere fast, and despite many English cities having the same law that they are so het up about.

[az city]

Because many of our right leaning friends don’t feel Wales should decide its own laws, especially on the right to plough down a child because they want to get somewhere fast, and despite many English cities having the same law that they are so het up about.

[splott parker]

Most countries in Europe / World, have 20mph / 30kmh limits in built up areas…..why wouldn’t we in Wales ?

I was in Liverpool recently, plenty of 20mph zones there. I mentioned Benidorm before, plenty of 20kph there, which is a lot slower. Wales is hardly out on a limb.

[North Cardiff Blue]

I was in Liverpool recently, plenty of 20mph zones there. I mentioned Benidorm before, plenty of 20kph there, which is a lot slower. Wales is hardly out on a limb.

Both shitholes, let's aspire to be like Liverpool and Benedorm

[splott parker]

Both shitholes, let's aspire to be like Liverpool and Benedorm

Never been to Benedorm but Benidorm has everything for a good break, the mad new town with some decent turns, the lovely old town with its charming side streets. Lovely beaches etc, perhaps millions of holidaymakers are wrong.
Liverpool is a marvellous weekend away, vibrant night life, lovely waterfront, in touching distance of the centre, unlike Cardiff. Interesting varied museums, great hop on, hop off bus tours.
You need to get out more……..keep to the speed limit though, speed kills!

[Rjk]

Both shitholes, let's aspire to be like Liverpool and Benedorm

Also many parts of London, Edinburgh, Oxford, Cambridge.

Bologna, Grenoble, Brussels, most of Spain and many other cities and regions around the world.

In Spain the reduction to 30 km/h on urban roads reduced fatalities by 14%.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Never been to Benedorm but Benidorm has everything for a good break, the mad new town with some decent turns, the lovely old town with its charming side streets. Lovely beaches etc, perhaps millions of holidaymakers are wrong.
Liverpool is a marvellous weekend away, vibrant night life, lovely waterfront, in touching distance of the centre, unlike Cardiff. Interesting varied museums, great hop on, hop off bus tours.
You need to get out more……..keep to the speed limit though, speed kills!

Marvellous in one place the kids live in fear of getting shot by the local drug dealers and in the other some sad blokes live in fear of being shot with ping pong balls being fired out of some old woman's aunty Annie, yes that sounds marvellous.

[splott parker]

Marvellous in one place the kids live in fear of getting shot by the local drug dealers and in the other some sad blokes live in fear of being shot with ping pong balls being fired out of some old woman's aunty Annie, yes that sounds marvellous.

You obviously haven’t been to either.

[North Cardiff Blue]

You obviously haven’t been to either.

Liverpool to see Wales v Italy and a few stag do's, a day visit to Benidorm that was too much but each to their own

[splott parker]

Liverpool to see Wales v Italy and a few stag do's, a day visit to Benidorm that was too much but each to their own

You wouldn’t have seen much life on a day trip to Benidorm, the new town doesn’t liven up until the evening, the old town would be the best bet for a day trip. Brilliant shopping areas, if you like that sort of thing, wonderful little tapas bars, Malpas beach is up there with the best. Benidorm can be anything you want it to be, olde worlde Spanish or in your face wildness. The Palm Sunday procession from the church overlooking Malpas beach and the choirs on the beach itself are a sight to behold.

Liverpool is a great weekend away, the areas we go remind me of old Cardiff. Pubs full of older clientele, reasonably priced beer, entertainment in nigh on every establishment and not a pick of bother anywhere. No doubt there are dodgy areas but that’s the same the world over.