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    I think it's a fair shout to say it's Welsh Premiers biggest ever game. The conference league group stage prize money would knock others out of the park. It would also help TNS to compete with Irish, N.Irish even some Scottish clubs for players.

    The irony is a win for TNS would also be one of the worst results as their domestic dominance would only grow

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    Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week

    Quote Originally Posted by Talksport View Post
    Not to mention Merthyr v Atalanta
    City v Real
    City v Hamburg

    The list goes on.

    Wozza, you. Just be no older than about 20 :)

    Bottom line the Welsh League is of a poor standard, maybe except TNS.
    Wozza said Welsh domestic football, Merthyr & Cardiff don't play in the Welsh domestic football system

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I think it's a fair shout to say it's Welsh Premiers biggest ever game. The conference league group stage prize money would knock others out of the park. It would also help TNS to compete with Irish, N.Irish even some Scottish clubs for players.

    The irony is a win for TNS would also be one of the worst results as their domestic dominance would only grow
    Yeah it's definitely a bittersweet thing for me, I want TNS to do well so it brings more money into Welsh football but also don't want them to because everyone else already can't compete.

    Briton Ferry had around 1400 last weekend for their Cymru Premier debut which is a positive, ex-city James Crole scoring 2 on his debut

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    Is the TNS game on telly ?

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    Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week

    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    Is the TNS game on telly ?
    Don't think so, it's on the Henstone Distillery website for some reason

  6. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Don't think so, it's on the Henstone Distillery website for some reason
    Bit random... thanks!

  7. #57

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    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    Is the TNS game on telly ?
    Seemingly not, which is a shame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wozza16 View Post
    Yeah it's definitely a bittersweet thing for me, I want TNS to do well so it brings more money into Welsh football but also don't want them to because everyone else already can't compete.

    Briton Ferry had around 1400 last weekend for their Cymru Premier debut which is a positive, ex-city James Crole scoring 2 on his debut
    Yeah I saw that crowd. Very impressive, and at a club that doesn't really have a history of big crowds.

    It is tricky really but on balance I want TNS to win. It's good for the league and would help to improve the Uefa Coefficients etc. That kind of funding you would hope would see some trickle down to other Welsh Premier teams too

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    Red card for TNS just before half time. Really silly.

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    Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week

    And now a red for Petrocub

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    Shame really. I think they have a tough play off to get into the conference league now. I can't remember who but I did check earlier, so it seems less likely to happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Shame really. I think they have a tough play off to get into the conference league now. I can't remember who but I did check earlier, so it seems less likely to happen
    https://faw.cymru/cymru-leagues/news...ory-in-europe/

    "Meanwhile, the losers will have one more opportunity to reach the UEFA Conference League league stage in a play-off in that competition against the losers of the UEFA Europa League third qualifying round tie between Lithuania’s FK Panevėžys or Maccabi Tel-Aviv of Israel."

    The second leg of that one is on Thursday evening in Hungary, with Maccabi Tel Aviv 2-1 up from the first leg, so it's likely to be against FK Panevėžys.

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    Also - FK Panevėžys were Lithuanian champions in 2023 (it's a summer league) but are currently having a poor season and are 9th out of 10 with 24 matches played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geraint Pillock View Post
    Also - FK Panevėžys were Lithuanian champions in 2023 (it's a summer league) but are currently having a poor season and are 9th out of 10 with 24 matches played.
    It's likely to be Tel Aviv surely? They already lead from the away leg

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    It's likely to be Tel Aviv surely? They already lead from the away leg
    "Meanwhile, the losers will have one more opportunity to reach the UEFA Conference League league stage in a play-off in that competition against the losers of the UEFA Europa League third qualifying round tie between Lithuania’s FK Panevėžys or Maccabi Tel-Aviv of Israel."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geraint Pillock View Post
    "Meanwhile, the losers will have one more opportunity to reach the UEFA Conference League league stage in a play-off in that competition against the losers of the UEFA Europa League third qualifying round tie between Lithuania’s FK Panevėžys or Maccabi Tel-Aviv of Israel."
    Sorry, of course! That makes much more sense 🥴

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    Two big games tonight.

    TNS first leg which is winnable. Also Larne from Northern Ireland, who are traditionally one of the smaller clubs also have a winnable first leg tie.

    Winners go into the conference league and receive around £3m apparently. A huge sum at their level

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    Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Two big games tonight.

    TNS first leg which is winnable. Also Larne from Northern Ireland, who are traditionally one of the smaller clubs also have a winnable first leg tie.

    Winners go into the conference league and receive around £3m apparently. A huge sum at their level
    Got to be TNS' best chance

    Think Larne have some big financial backing a bit like TNS

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Got to be TNS' best chance

    Think Larne have some big financial backing a bit like TNS
    Yeah I assumed that too. They get 2000 or so a game mind. Linfield I know get about double that. It's a much bigger league than the Cymru Premier and arguably underachieving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Yeah I assumed that too. They get 2000 or so a game mind. Linfield I know get about double that. It's a much bigger league than the Cymru Premier and arguably underachieving.
    Benefits of your biggest clubs playing in it I guess

    Sometimes wondered what the development of Cardiff would have been like had we not joined the EFL and instead always been part of a Welsh system. Would it still be Cardiff City, Swansea City etc or would there be a number of Cardiff, Newport and Swansea clubs in the top flight like NI and ROI? Think Belfast has 4 of the 12 NI top flight clubs and 5 of the 10 LOI clubs are based in Dublin

    Would half of us be Ely Rangers fans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Sometimes wondered what the development of Cardiff would have been like had we not joined the EFL and instead always been part of a Welsh system
    As you probably know, Cardiff City were in Southern League before joining the Football League.

    I very much doubt Cardiff City would have ever become a professional football club and built Ninian Park if playing in the Welsh league was the height of its ambitions.

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    Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I very much doubt Cardiff City would have ever become a professional football club and built Ninian Park if playing in the Welsh league was the height of its ambitions.
    I'm inclined to agree

    I think its an interesting counterfactual though, would a large Cardiff club eventually have developed or would, say, Riverside, Cathays, Ely have larger semi pro/pro clubs like you see in Ireland? What happens to Valleys clubs without Cardiff drawing a lot of their support?

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    I'm inclined to agree

    I think its an interesting counterfactual though, would a large Cardiff club eventually have developed or would, say, Riverside, Cathays, Ely have larger semi pro/pro clubs like you see in Ireland? What happens to Valleys clubs without Cardiff drawing a lot of their support?
    I've pondered this before. I've always concluded that an established Welsh league would have been somewhere in-between the Scottish league and the Northern Irish/Republic of Ireland league. I think proximity to English cities would have helped with the quality of players against the Irish leagues, but the population and lack of population centres etc would have meant we didn't evolve to be as strong as the Scottish league.

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    Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week

    TNS 2-0 up away to Paneveys, Daniel Williams just scored an absolute cracker. Its live on S4C website.

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