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Thoughts so far? Early days and he doesn’t look fully fit to me, but I expected him to be more mobile based on his YouTube clips.
He looks absolutely awful.
However would be interesting to see him say with likes of colwill and tanner and al ghazi and robbo just behind.
Of course maybe we only look good because kanga goes off but the only potential consideration is even haaland up front in that first half yesterday would have looked awful also so it wouldnt have been easy for him.
Definitely not match fit. Only touched the ball twice in the first 25 minutes of the game yesterday (that might have a lot to do with the s-l-o-w way we got the ball forward though). Been very disappointed with him so far.
I'd prefer to start with Robinson and bring Kanga on at 70 minutes at the moment, until he actually is match fit. Also for what I have seen so far, he isn't going to be our 15 goals a season striker. Can only hope Bulut brings a premier league striker in on loan. Hang on...what's that flying past my window...
We all know that YouTube videos can be deceptive, but he really doesn't look like the same player.Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Difficult to find positives about his game. Jogs/walks around when not in possession, doesn't make himself available, and when he does receive the ball there's a lack of urgency about his play.
Maybe he actually isnt the same player and we have signed the wrong person?
Wouldnt even be the strangest thing to happen in the soap opera/shit show that is cardiff city in recent years so until i see differently ill go with that theory. We signed the wrong player.aw well will make a good netflix documentary anyway.
Also the match fitness argument is nonsense. We arent talking about someone running out of steam on 75 mins now are we?
He looks just as bad at the start of games.
Whatever is going on with him has nothing to do with fitness.
I’d rather Eddie back
At least he ran
He better shape up pretty sharp because the crowd won’t put up with that level of effort and will soon get on his back. Rightly so, too. It was a disgrace he lasted so long on the pitch yesterday.
People can say he was isolated first half but he didnt fecking move!!!
I’m pretty sure he didn’t have a pre-season. He wasn’t playing friendlies for Hertha Berlin and I don’t think he was training with them either. He wasn’t in their plans at all.
Robinson main striker
The rest can wait their turn
He probably isn’t fit but it doesn’t excuse lack of effort.
I’d rather him bust a gut and come off after 45 mins
He was terrible yesterday and I've seen nothing from him to suggest he's anywhere near the standard.
This Haaland would have struggled is just bollox. OK we were garbage and the the service was poor but Earnie was right in the studio as a striker you also have to try and create something yourself. He just jogged about doing sweet FA.
He was also on when we stepped up in the 2nd half. Was still unlively. He can't have been that knackered as he'd done feck all.
He looks awful and should be nowhere near the squad Saturday.
Do we think Reindorf would have given Cabango and Darling such an easy time jogging about literally doing nothing.?
TLG you asked the question. What are your thoughts?
I wonder why?
They are only the 2nd division in germany. Is that league that much better than the championship?
Etete, Kanga, Meite, Ugbo. Is there another club in the Championship who have had a policy of playing 'lumps' up front ? Even Wednesday only play Ugbo from the bench. And this from a manager who chose not to pick Robinson for the best part of the season.
I’d have him start and play in as much of the cup game as possible on Wednesday. If there is no improvement, I’d drop him for Saturday.
He’s looked lethargic and pretty poor so far, but I do think the lack of a pre-season is likely to be a factor, so I’m not jumping to any firm conclusions just yet.
I did say when he signed that I believed he could be anything based on his career so far. As I’ve said at the top of the thread, the thing that has surprised me is how immobile he’s looking. He appears a fair bit bulkier and slower than I’d imagined.
He actually played for Hertha in Bundesliga 1 - but was generally regarded as a flop. TLG is right - he didn't go on the Hertha pre-season tour to Austria as they were expecting to flog him to Gent at the time.
Wonder if we would have signed him if we hadn't played Hertha in a pre season game?
I'm sure Camarasa wouldn't have signed for us if it were not for that friendly we had against Betis.
Hertha reportedly paid £5m euros for him from Young Boys. He flopped playing for Hertha in B1, but then did relatively well on loan in Belgium - to the extent that Hertha thought they could recoup their money with a sale to Gent in the Belgian league. That deal was on-off over the summer apparently. Maybe the player himself thought he was going to end up back in Belgium?
He does look rusty and unfit to me. He should start on Wednesday and again on Saturday. I think Robbo and Tanner benefited from the game being more open when they came on and the space they enjoyed wasn't there at the start of the game.
So, yes, that sounds plausible!
He makes Sory Kaba look like a world class striker. We look better with a late arriving striker (false 9 if that’s what it is) attack with pace at the defence, not give the centre halves what they want.
Seems to think you have to play with a 6ft 3 target man who can't move
The first goalscorer in the last 2 derbies is a 5ft 7 lad who isn't even particularly quick but at least contributes some movement off the ball
I think as a club we're stuck in the dark-age when it comes to strikers. Why do we always look to recruit a 'target man' that can hold the ball up (slowing play down)?
These type of players generally have little movement or technique about them (there are rare exceptions, of course).
Splott Parker made me laugh when he said how much better we looked when 'Frank Bruno and Audley Harrison' went off.
No prizes for guessing who he meant, and the parallels he draws are correct.
As you said, he's had no pre-season. With that in mind, I can't see him taking part in three games during the next 6 days.
However, he needs to start against Southampton. If he stinks the place out in the cup game he shouldn't make the match-day squad for Saturday.
On the other hand, if he can redeem himself in the cup game, he should be on the bench Saturday, with a view to playing him for the last 15 minutes.
Robinson has earned the right to start Saturday (taking into account his pre-season as well)
Based on what I've seen of him so far, I'm not convinced he can turn the corner.
I feel some sympathy for players who are are not match fit. through no fault of their own, who are played out of position (not their fault), who are in a team playing a style that doesn’t suit them (not their fault) or who lack a bit of confidence because of a recent dip in form/luck (happens to all strikers).
I can’t stand to see players picking up wages and getting picked every week if I see them putting in much less effort than those around them.
I can’t quite decide on Kanga yet.
Reindorf has shown in the one match I’ve seen that he deserves consideration for the next league matchday squad.
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