The bookies have us finishing 20th ?

[North Cardiff Blue]

We were scoring an extraordinary amount of set piece goals per set pieces taken. It was at a level that was never likely to be sustained throughout the season. Opponents started to wise up to what we were doing. Often, our set piece goals weren't delivery ----> finish, but delivery ----> win second ball ----> get to loose ball in the box and score.

I think the deliveries were a bit better last season, but I also agree a team that scores a lot of set-piece goals is aggressive and has the determination and fight in them to win the second ball. We've lost that fight which makes me think he has lost the dressing room, they look nervous and miserable and confidence is through the floor.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I think the deliveries were a bit better last season, but I also agree a team that scores a lot of set-piece goals is aggressive and has the determination and fight in them to win the second ball. We've lost that fight which makes me think he has lost the dressing room, they look nervous and miserable and confidence is through the floor.

We've scored the first goal once in our last 15 league games. When you think that we have made a few decent starts to games this season, I agree, confidence is shot.

[City123]

Rinomhota was surplus to requirements 9 months ago (and rightly so, cos he’s crap) and now is back in the fold after an 11/10 transfer window.

FWIW I would snap your hands off for 20th

Its incredible, man doesn't have a clue

[Father Dougal]

We've scored the first goal once in our last 15 league games. When you think that we have made a few decent starts to games this season, I agree, confidence is shot.

We got the first goal today.......

[Hilts]

Have to be odds on today. We are clearly the worst squad in the division. Probably by a distance.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

We got the first goal today.......

We've now been in front for 0.6% of this season and been behind for 68.9% of the season.

[The Lone Gunman]

Have to be odds on today. We are clearly the worst squad in the division. Probably by a distance.

6/5 for relegation now. SkyBet still have Portsmouth and Plymouth below us.

City are now 1,000/1 to with Championship, 150/1 for promotion, 33/1 for a top six finish and 15/2 for a top half finish.

[The Lone Gunman]

Duplicate post, board playing up.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

6/5 for relegation now. SkyBet still have Portsmouth and Plymouth below us.

City are now 1,000/1 to with Championship, 150/1 for promotion, 33/1 for a top six finish and 15/2 for a top half finish.

Some thought we were a couple of good signings away from a shot at the playoffs. Such thoughts seemed like absolute lunacy at best at the time and seem even more bizarre now.

[Father Dougal]

Some thought we were a couple of good signings away from a shot at the playoffs. Such thoughts seemed like absolute lunacy at best at the time and seem even more bizarre now.

Every championship team is a couple of good signings and a solid manager away from the play offs.

Its a tough league but isnt very good.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Every championship team is a couple of good signings and a solid manager away from the play offs.

Its a tough league but isnt very good.

I don't agree with that. There's a gulf between the top and the bottom that a couple of good signings won't fix.

[Father Dougal]

I don't agree with that. There's a gulf between the top and the bottom that a couple of good signings won't fix.

The likes of leeds and burnley yes.

However to be in with a "shot of the play offs" that means getting to about 12th and winning a couple of games in a row and you in.

[Father Dougal]

The likes of leeds and burnley yes.

However to be in with a "shot of the play offs" that means getting to about 12th and winning a couple of games in a row and you in.

Eg likes of swansea derby and oxford 1 win from the play offs. Are their squads that much better than ours as it is? If we added a couple of players like a genuine proven striker, solid centre half etc.... and a recently proven manager do you really think we couldnt rub shoulders with derby oxford or swansea?

[Hilts]

I think if we managed to get in a new manager very quickly and he's decent and we signed a very good striker and a very good dominant central midfielder then we'd stand a chance of surviving. We are miles away from a play off chasing squad.

To get free agents who are very good though and very quickly is extremely unlikely and the clowns don't see a crisis and are happy to plod along with Riza.

[olderblue]

I think if we managed to get in a new manager very quickly and he's decent and we signed a very good striker and a very good dominant central midfielder then we'd stand a chance of surviving. We are miles away from a play off chasing squad.

To get free agents who are very good though and very quickly is extremely unlikely and the clowns don't see a crisis and are happy to plod along with Riza.

Hopefully yesterdays result will wake them up
It’s not something that can be fixed on the cheap
We can’t afford to have any more left of field choices as head coach, manager or whatever else they want to describe it as.
We need the right appointment with backing in January, otherwise we can kiss goodbye to Championship football

[NinianKnight]

Who would take 20th now?

[North Cardiff Blue]

Who would take 20th now?

Probably

I may change my mind in a few weeks though, the squad should be better than it looks right now, let's see who we get?

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Probably

I may change my mind in a few weeks though, the squad should be better than it looks right now, let's see who we get?

The squad is crap. That's why we are where we are. There's no top 6 players in the entire side. The good ones all have ifs, buts and maybes attached to them.

[The Lone Gunman]

The squad is crap. That's why we are where we are. There's no top 6 players in the entire side. The good ones all have ifs, buts and maybes attached to them.

Several also have the physio's table attached to them.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Some thought we were a couple of good signings away from a shot at the playoffs. Such thoughts seemed like absolute lunacy at best at the time and seem even more bizarre now.

So when forest were playing like blind men a few seasons back and looked nailed on for relegation but ended up getting promoted .....

How did the harvester of sorrow deal with that 🤔?

[A Quiet Monkfish]

So when forest were playing like blind men a few seasons back and looked nailed on for relegation but ended up getting promoted .....

How did the harvester of sorrow deal with that 🤔?

Probably an over-simplification, but there's a world of difference between a decent side playing badly and a bad side playing badly..

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Probably an over-simplification, but there's a world of difference between a decent side playing badly and a bad side playing badly..

Forest fans were convinced they were down

Unless we get a decent manager and the players shape up I think most people think we are down too but this I told you so verbals is tedious

[North Cardiff Blue]

The squad is crap. That's why we are where we are. There's no top 6 players in the entire side. The good ones all have ifs, buts and maybes attached to them.

They are certainly not playing as a team that's for sure.

It's hard to tell presently they look terrible but they are without a Manager and they hated the last one, we will have a better idea if they pick a decent manager.

[Father Dougal]

Bookies underestimated us?!

Currently 19th

[Father Dougal]

Have to be odds on today. We are clearly the worst squad in the division. Probably by a distance.

Hmmmmm