Trust meeting with Dalman and Choo

[WJ99mobile]

I've always believed the team's manager should have ultimate responsibility for any signings, but maybe the club is now signing players without any direct involvement from the manager?

This should be welcomed by all that ask for a director of football (which people think is a clubs holy grail)

[The Lone Gunman]

This should be welcomed by all that ask for a director of football (which people think is a clubs holy grail)

What should be welcomed?

[The Lone Gunman]

So if it's now four it couldn't have previously consisted of Tan, Choo, Dalman and the Manager. Maybe the process used to be the Manager, Choo and Dalman selected someone and Tan said yes or no and now he's getting more involved in the selection process as they kept sending shit his way for approval.

You're thinking of the so-called transfer committee. Different thing and now defunct.

[olderblue]

This should be welcomed by all that ask for a director of football (which people think is a clubs holy grail)

I think a DOF is essential, I can’t speak on behalf of anyone else who ask about it, but for me a DOF
Would establish a pattern of play or playing style from Academy level to first team

He would have a major influence on the type of coaching staff we go after including head coach/Manager when one moves on.

Having identified the right person for the role, the succession plan should be easier as that target is already defined.

Player recruitment should be around players who can play that preferred system and about their general character scouts would have a template on the type of player we need for that position

We currently lurch from crisis to crisis, we employed a manager who’s style of football bored the pants of everyone and their seemingly was little appetite from the playing staff to buy into it

For the interim period we now have a coach who says he’s more attack minded, wether that’s the case or not, it’s the complete opposite of Buluts style

The one thing that I can’t get my head around with Tan, is that he runs some very successful businesses, yet when it comes to the football club all commercial sense goes out of the window

We need 3 appointments in my view
An experienced football CEO based here whose full time job is to carry out the day to day business of the club

A DOF

Manager

The cost of this is nothing, compared to the amount of money that has been spent and lost since he took over!

[North Cardiff Blue]

And your mate Bulut.

Your mate, you were calling people negative Nigels a few weeks ago

[North Cardiff Blue]

I just asked it "Who is the best candidate to become the next Cardiff city FC football manager?"

and it answered

"Determining the best candidate for Cardiff City FC's next manager depends on various factors, including the team's needs, budget, and desired style of play. Some potential candidates could include:

Roberto Martinez - A former Cardiff player with a strong managerial resume.
Neil Warnock - Experienced in the Championship and has a successful history with the club.
Michael Flynn - A former manager at Newport County with local knowledge and experience.

Ultimately, the best fit would depend on their ability to connect with the squad and implement an effective strategy."

I just asked the same - The leading candidates for the next Cardiff City FC manager include Steven Schumacher, Freyr Alexandersson, and Nathan Jones. Schumacher and Alexandersson have strong credentials, while Jones is known for his passion and adaptability. Other potential options include Rob Page, Frank Lampard, Leighton Baines, and Richie Wellens. The club is reportedly looking for a manager who can combine the aggressive, physical style traditionally associated with Cardiff with more modern tactical elements​(
BettingOdds.com
).

Then I asked In Your opinion - Who is the best candidate to become the next Cardiff city FC football manager

In my opinion, Nathan Jones would be a strong candidate for the next Cardiff City FC manager. As a passionate Welshman with experience managing various styles and formations, he could bring a blend of intensity and tactical adaptability. His emotional connection to the fanbase and proven record in Championship-level football make him well-suited to lead Cardiff through a challenging phase while maintaining the club's traditional values. His ability to instill a siege mentality and inspire players could also be key to success at Cardiff.

I'd go with that and save the club a fortune in consultants if not Schumacher or Mowbray.

[North Cardiff Blue]

I love a bit of satire on this board.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Something of note from this meeting that didn't real seem to get commented on:

"Ken Choo also explained how the Recruitment Team had been increased to 4 and said they are now utilising several software applications to assist with player recruitment and analysis. This capability is regarded as key in moving the club forward."

It would be interesting to know exactly who makes the decisions with regard to signings these days. Is it:

1) The recruitment team and the board?

2) The recruitment team and the manager?

3) The recruitment team, the manager and the board?

I've always believed the team's manager should have ultimate responsibility for any signings, but maybe the club is now signing players without any direct involvement from the manager?

It's the modern way, that's what happens at Brighton and Brentford.

The Managers get involved at the later stages when four players have been selected for the position, I think we would do the same.

[North Cardiff Blue]

It's the modern way, that's what happens at Brighton and Brentford.

The Managers get involved at the later stages when four players have been selected for the position, I think we would do the same.

Although this is for player recruitment, the thread was about Manager recruitment.

[WJ99mobile]

I think a DOF is essential, I can’t speak on behalf of anyone else who ask about it, but for me a DOF
Would establish a pattern of play or playing style from Academy level to first team

He would have a major influence on the type of coaching staff we go after including head coach/Manager when one moves on.

Having identified the right person for the role, the succession plan should be easier as that target is already defined.

Player recruitment should be around players who can play that preferred system and about their general character scouts would have a template on the type of player we need for that position

We currently lurch from crisis to crisis, we employed a manager who’s style of football bored the pants of everyone and their seemingly was little appetite from the playing staff to buy into it

For the interim period we now have a coach who says he’s more attack minded, wether that’s the case or not, it’s the complete opposite of Buluts style

The one thing that I can’t get my head around with Tan, is that he runs some very successful businesses, yet when it comes to the football club all commercial sense goes out of the window

We need 3 appointments in my view
An experienced football CEO based here whose full time job is to carry out the day to day business of the club

A DOF

Manager

The cost of this is nothing, compared to the amount of money that has been spent and lost since he took over!

It’s not working well at Newcastle where Eddie Howe wants out because of it.

[The Lone Gunman]

It’s not working well at Newcastle where Eddie Howe wants out because of it.

They're 7th in the Premier League.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

I think a DOF is essential, I can’t speak on behalf of anyone else who ask about it, but for me a DOF
Would establish a pattern of play or playing style from Academy level to first team

He would have a major influence on the type of coaching staff we go after including head coach/Manager when one moves on.

Having identified the right person for the role, the succession plan should be easier as that target is already defined.

Player recruitment should be around players who can play that preferred system and about their general character scouts would have a template on the type of player we need for that position

We currently lurch from crisis to crisis, we employed a manager who’s style of football bored the pants of everyone and their seemingly was little appetite from the playing staff to buy into it

For the interim period we now have a coach who says he’s more attack minded, wether that’s the case or not, it’s the complete opposite of Buluts style

The one thing that I can’t get my head around with Tan, is that he runs some very successful businesses, yet when it comes to the football club all commercial sense goes out of the window

We need 3 appointments in my view
An experienced football CEO based here whose full time job is to carry out the day to day business of the club

A DOF

Manager

The cost of this is nothing, compared to the amount of money that has been spent and lost since he took over!

Completely agree

[The Lone Gunman]

It's the modern way, that's what happens at Brighton and Brentford.

Does it? Do Brentford sign players without any direct involvement from Thomas Frank?

[North Cardiff Blue]

Does it? Do Brentford sign players without any direct involvement from Thomas Frank?

No, I believe he gets involved once they've found four players for a position, but let's be fair if they all point to one outstanding player he's not going to say nah I'll have Asger cos he's my mate from Brøndby IF youth.

[LA Bluebird]

The point is there’s a balance and a consistent philosophy and strategy, which I don’t think you could say has been the case here since Malky with maybe the exceptions of when Warnock and Morison had to rebuild large bits of the squad on the cheap.

- Some signings were clearly Bulut based on previous - Sio, Goutas, Diedhiou
- Some he basically came out and said were club signings or implied that by the fact he never played them - Simic, Tsunoda, Turnbull
- Some prestige signings that seem like something Tan would have his fingers all over - Ramsey, Chambers, El-Ghazi

Add that in to the fact that we’ve said one thing when it comes to youth players and done another for years but especially under Bulut, can anyone get some idea of what we are trying to do from all that?