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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfresco View Post
    Sludge got to be state pensionable age he's been on here donkey years. Question is why is he comfortable losing his heating allowance.
    Nah just claims benefits like plenty of lefties who smoked a bit too much weed in their 20’s….

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    Not long left for Free Gear Two Tier Kier. His male friend(s) will be happy with the result though

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    Genuine pensioners my arse

    Rolex watch ff sake

    I am not impressed by starmer but the Tories are rotten

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Genuine pensioners my arse

    Rolex watch ff sake

    I am not impressed by starmer but the Tories are rotten
    Thank Goodness taxpayer's hard earned money will not now be used as an insurance premium for a Rolex watch. Poor old bugger will now have to dip into his millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Genuine pensioners my arse

    Rolex watch ff sake

    I am not impressed by starmer but the Tories are rotten
    I got a Rolex off Alibaba for Ł24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    That’s a Hovarth that is! 😮

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    Re: Labour Election Promises (Broken) Thread

    Anyone know a Labour MP who didnt blag a Taylor Swift freebie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    Anyone know a Labour MP who didnt blag a Taylor Swift freebie?
    Thank God we voted out the Tory scum.

    More seriously, this is ridiculous isn't it?

    If there is anything Labour have stood out on, rightly or wrongly is that they have claimed to be anti austerity.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0r8e421y5po

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Thank God we voted out the Tory scum.

    More seriously, this is ridiculous isn't it?

    If there is anything Labour have stood out on, rightly or wrongly is that they have claimed to be anti austerity.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0r8e421y5po
    Absolutely, thank feck we voted your cnts out

    Labour even at their worst are better than the dregs we have had for 14 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Absolutely, thank feck we voted your cnts out

    Labour even at their worst are better than the dregs we have had for 14 years
    Abusive and missed the point. He's back! I've missed you since the election Sludgey! 😘

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Absolutely, thank feck we voted your cnts out

    Labour even at their worst are better than the dregs we have had for 14 years
    100% correct! Nothing could be as bad as the Tory shitbags but this Starmer right wing farrago gives them a run for their money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Abusive and missed the point. He's back! I've missed you since the election Sludgey! 😘
    I couldn't give a feck

    Feck the tory mob

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I couldn't give a feck

    Feck the tory mob
    Absolute scum the lot of them. Rotters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Absolute scum the lot of them. Rotters.
    Hey sludge , genuine question would you be this vocal with your inflammatory rhetoric face to face with a past Tory voter such as myself, if so perhaps rather than hiding behind a keyboard put your money where your mouth is , go on I dare you. If you can’t stop being a childish online troll.

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    Going after inheritance tax now I see, another deeply unpopular one so should cement the new Tories demise even further, nothing like a bit of cash stress post death/funeral.
    No point in working or saving anymore, no point buying a house, they will take it all….spend every last penny in the George Best style I guess…..

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    Re: Labour Election Promises (Broken) Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Going after inheritance tax now I see, another deeply unpopular one so should cement the new Tories demise even further, nothing like a bit of cash stress post death/funeral.
    No point in working or saving anymore, no point buying a house, they will take it all….spend every last penny in the George Best style I guess…..
    You have to laugh at these champagne red rosette mobsters, 4 years of Russian interference claims but are now sending a brigade to Merica to campaign in the elections for knee pads, I'm wondering if the same characters who denied the cheating in the last US election will be crying cheat shortly, vote for no one Goats, they are all Wefers no matter what colour badge, its a rigged game and the people have little say, but the tide is turning slowly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Going after inheritance tax now I see, another deeply unpopular one so should cement the new Tories demise even further, nothing like a bit of cash stress post death/funeral.
    No point in working or saving anymore, no point buying a house, they will take it all….spend every last penny in the George Best style I guess…..
    Ironically, that would be a lot better for the economy than people hoarding wealth until their mid 90s and then passing it on to their 65 year old kids, rinse and repeat.

    The only issue I have with changing iht is yet again we are having a conversation about 'raising taxes on the richest' and excluding the actual rich people, whose affairs are organised in a way to avoid paying iht. Similar to any conversations about income tax, NI etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Ironically, that would be a lot better for the economy than people hoarding wealth until their mid 90s and then passing it on to their 65 year old kids, rinse and repeat.

    The only issue I have with changing iht is yet again we are having a conversation about 'raising taxes on the richest' and excluding the actual rich people, whose affairs are organised in a way to avoid paying iht. Similar to any conversations about income tax, NI etc.
    IHT is the fairest and most effective tax to stimulate the economy apart from milking the richest. This so called Labour outfit has been very poor thus far but, in my opinion, they could redeem themselves by raising IHT significantly and redistribute the cash to stimulate productivity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    IHT is the fairest and most effective tax to stimulate the economy apart from milking the richest. This so called Labour outfit has been very poor this far but in my opinion they could redeem themselves by raising IHT significantly.
    I can't say I have a great issue with it, but surely people will just shift it away somehow? Give it to their kids early (no bad thing at all) or spend it (no bad thing) or move it abroad (a bad thing). It seems pretty easy to get around

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I can't say I have a great issue with it, but surely people will just shift it away somehow? Give it to their kids early (no bad thing at all) or spend it (no bad thing) or move it abroad (a bad thing). It seems pretty easy to get around
    Possibly so but it wouldn't take a genius to devise control measures so that the cash be frozen until it is taxed and only allowed to be used in exceptional circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Possibly so but it wouldn't take a genius to devise control measures so that the cash be frozen until it is taxed and only allowed to be used in exceptional circumstances.
    It's not about intelligence though I don't think. The UK is structured in a way where a certain 'class' of people never lose, no matter what the government does. It's a massive job to break that down. The low hanging fruit is the large number of people in the middle who aren't obsessed with money enough to focus their energy or resources towards avoiding tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    It's not about intelligence though I don't think. The UK is structured in a way where a certain 'class' of people never lose, no matter what the government does. It's a massive job to break that down. The low hanging fruit is the large number of people in the middle who aren't obsessed with money enough to focus their energy or resources towards avoiding tax.
    Yes I agree with you but my point was that it wouldn't take a genius for the Government to devise a financial control system whereby large amounts of family cash could be protected until it were appropriately taxed, rather than be fritted away prematurely. The benefits are obvious in terms of redistribution and opportunities to stimulate economic growth. I still believe by the way there should be a punitive wealth tax on the super rich so we probably largely concur.

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    Re: Labour Election Promises (Broken) Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I can't say I have a great issue with it, but surely people will just shift it away somehow? Give it to their kids early (no bad thing at all) or spend it (no bad thing) or move it abroad (a bad thing). It seems pretty easy to get around
    Aren’t there already strict limits on how much money someone can ‘gift’ to avoid IHT? Something like Ł3k (or is it now Ł1.5k pa)?

    I have no idea if or how that is policed - and as Eric says, the very rich play outside the rules- but the rules are there.

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