2024 US Presidential Election

[the other bob wilson]

You don't have to pick a side and blindly follow them. A better strategy would be to view things from all angles and then work out what is actually going on. I'm not a Trumpist by any means, but when I saw the Russia collusion nonsense I called it out for what it was, and a lot of people didn't like me for that

[the other bob wilson]

I see there’s no replies from the right wing stale male loons on here to my post as to why they are supporting a rapist. What a shock.

Getting old is no fun, but being able to recall what happened in UK and USA elections over a period of sixty years because you were there to see them does provide you with some insight into these things I feel. Yesterday I must admit to being a bit baffled that Trump had gone beyond the 47/48 per cent figure that those apparently in the know were telling us was the limit of what he could achieve, but I'd say it's a truism to believe that when an incumbent party is perceived to have failed on the economy it loses power in the next election I would guess about ninety per cent of the time.

There'll be all sorts of reasons put forward as to why the Democrats lost so heavily, but maybe the answer is the one that usually decides elections - that is, it was principally because they were deemed to have failed a test which has stood since well before my time - did the economy improve under our watch?

[cyril evans awaydays]

You don't have to pick a side and blindly follow them. A better strategy would be to view things from all angles and then work out what is actually going on. I'm not a Trumpist by any means, but when I saw the Russia collusion nonsense I called it out for what it was, and a lot of people didn't like me for that

Sludge was talking to TWGL1 about his special skills but if you want to reply instead no harm done I guess!

[cyril evans awaydays]

I must admit to scepticism about the WEF and The Great Reset but I have to admit that Schwab installing his puppet can only mean that the timeline will accelerate from here, right?

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Getting old is no fun, but being able to recall what happened in UK and USA elections over a period of sixty years because you were there to see them does provide you with some insight into these things I feel. Yesterday I must admit to being a bit baffled that Trump had gone beyond the 47/48 per cent figure that those apparently in the know were telling us was the limit of what he could achieve, but I'd say it's a truism to believe that when an incumbent party is perceived to have failed on the economy it loses power in the next election I would guess about ninety per cent of the time.

There'll be all sorts of reasons put forward as to why the Democrats lost so heavily, but maybe the answer is the one that usually decides elections - that is, it was principally because they were deemed to have failed a test which has stood since well before my time - did the economy improve under our watch?

True, though the few occasions I [and everyone else] has seen Harris speak, it's probably fair to say she sounded like a teacher's assistant talking to 2 yr olds in a nursery. Gaff-prone Biden would have been no worse..

[the other bob wilson]

I suppose there's a chance it will not apply by the time all of the votes are counted, but I've just noticed that Trump is around two million votes down on what he got in 2020 - compared to the Democrats though who, at the moment, have lost fourteen million votes in the four years since the last election, it's nothing.

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I must admit to scepticism about the WEF and The Great Reset but I have to admit that Schwab installing his puppet can only mean that the timeline will accelerate from here, right?

Don't bring up the timeline, the only person on here with access to it it accidentally put money on Harris to win

[jon1959]

I suppose there's a chance it will not apply by the time all of the votes are counted, but I've just noticed that Trump is around two million votes down on what he got in 2020 - compared to the Democrats though who, at the moment, have lost fourteen million votes in the four years since the last election, it's nothing.

I guessed on one of these threads a few weeks ago that the Democrats would be badly hurt by alienated progressive/Arab/Muslim voters abstaining rather than switching to Trump or to one of the third party candidates.

I haven't looked in detail at most of the results, but in Michigan (the swing state that was most likely to punish the Democrats for arming Netanyahu) the Democrat vote was well down, whilst the combined Jill Stern and Cornell West vote was only half of the Republican majority (Kennedy and Chase would not have benefitted from that particular section of the electorate switching).

It looks like a significant part of the Biden vote just stayed at home.

[Wales-Bales]

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[A Quiet Monkfish]

I guessed on one of these threads a few weeks ago that the Democrats would be badly hurt by alienated progressive/Arab/Muslim voters abstaining rather than switching to Trump or to one of the third party candidates.

I haven't looked in detail at most of the results, but in Michigan (the swing state that was most likely to punish the Democrats for arming Netanyahu) the Democrat vote was well down, whilst the combined Jill Stern and Cornell West vote was only half of the Republican majority (Kennedy and Chase would not have benefitted from that particular section of the electorate switching).

It looks like a significant part of the Biden vote just stayed at home.

If they stayed at home and didn't vote then I'm not sure how you could identify them as either a Trump or Biden vote..

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Intelligent , liberal america 226

Thick rednecks and neo cons 312

Welcome to America !

No thanks

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I guessed on one of these threads a few weeks ago that the Democrats would be badly hurt by alienated progressive/Arab/Muslim voters abstaining rather than switching to Trump or to one of the third party candidates.

I haven't looked in detail at most of the results, but in Michigan (the swing state that was most likely to punish the Democrats for arming Netanyahu) the Democrat vote was well down, whilst the combined Jill Stern and Cornell West vote was only half of the Republican majority (Kennedy and Chase would not have benefitted from that particular section of the electorate switching).

It looks like a significant part of the Biden vote just stayed at home.

It looks like a majority of the American voting public are either extremely self centered or stupid

Or both

I mean we had a little bit of that over here with the Boris vote but thankfully it didn't last long

[JamesWales]

It looks like a majority of the American voting public are either extremely self centered or stupid

Or both

I mean we had a little bit of that over here with the Boris vote but thankfully it didn't last long

Spot on Sludge.

Id go further and say anyone who disagrees with your analysis here is probably a nazi. And also smelly.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Spot on Sludge.

Id go further and say anyone who disagrees with your analysis here is probably a nazi. And also smelly.

Well the world is a better place when feckwit idiots are not in charge

He's a feckwit idiot

And America are welcome to him

Sunak and now Starmer might be a little stupid at times but whilst I clearly wouldn't vote for your boyo rishi he seemed a decent enough bloke

In America they have elected a nutcase

God bless the fruitcakes

[Wales-Bales]

Intelligent , liberal america 226

Thick rednecks and neo cons 312

Welcome to America !

No thanks

It's a huge mandate to cause unprecedented chaos.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

It's a huge mandate to cause unprecedented chaos.

Turkeys voting for Xmas

I care not a feck

[TWGL1]

I must admit to scepticism about the WEF and The Great Reset but I have to admit that Schwab installing his puppet can only mean that the timeline will accelerate from here, right?

I think you need to look up the Hegelian Dialect.

[TWGL1]

Well the world is a better place when feckwit idiots are not in charge

He's a feckwit idiot

And America are welcome to him

Sunak and now Starmer might be a little stupid at times but whilst I clearly wouldn't vote for your boyo rishi he seemed a decent enough bloke

In America they have elected a nutcase

God bless the fruitcakes

Racial profiling again there , you think it’s clever , yet another example of your virtue signalling

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Racial profiling again there , you think it’s clever , yet another example of your virtue signalling

Sorry " brains "

The Americans are not a " race "

Your wrong , again

Like last night

Wrong

Still on your arse



God Bless

[TWGL1]

Sorry " brains "

The Americans are not a " race "

Your wrong , again

Like last night

Wrong

Still on your arse



God Bless

Huh be quiet you virtual signalling life drainer - nice subtle uses of bigotry and racial profiling again.

[ToTaL ITK]

The Senate is predicted to flip as well. Trump is going to cause chaos if he wins!

Not sure he will. he's got what he wanted a get out of jail free card. He will feck about with the supreme court and that jack smith!! will be fired the day trump gets into the WH.

[Wales-Bales]

Not sure he will. he's got what he wanted a get out of jail free card. He will feck about with the supreme court and that jack smith!! will be fired the day trump gets into the WH.

It depends on whether or not he lets Kennedy and Musk off the leash, cos they are itching for a fight against the current government overreach, specifically food, health, energy, and government efficiency, but I don't think it will stop there.

[jon1959]

https://www.theguardian.com/business...richest-top-10


The wealth of the 10 richest people in the world – a list dominated by US tech billionaires – increased by a record amount after Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election, according to a widely cited index.

The Bloomberg Billionaires Index estimated that the world’s 10 wealthiest people gained nearly $64bn (about £49.5bn) on Wednesday, the largest daily increase since the index began in 2012.

Elon Musk, the world’s richest person, registered the largest increase with a $26.5bn addition to his fortune, which now stands at $290bn. The prominent backer of Trump’s campaign, benefited from a surge in the share price of Tesla, the electric carmaker where he is chief executive and in which he owns a 13% stake.

The gains came as tech business leaders, including Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, chief executive of Facebook parent Meta, and Apple’s Tim Cook publicly congratulated Trump on his election win.

Much of the gains for the top 10 was because of a surge in US stocks on Wednesday as investors anticipated a low-tax and regulation-light policy platform.

[TWGL1]

https://www.theguardian.com/business...richest-top-10


The wealth of the 10 richest people in the world – a list dominated by US tech billionaires – increased by a record amount after Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election, according to a widely cited index.

The Bloomberg Billionaires Index estimated that the world’s 10 wealthiest people gained nearly $64bn (about £49.5bn) on Wednesday, the largest daily increase since the index began in 2012.

Elon Musk, the world’s richest person, registered the largest increase with a $26.5bn addition to his fortune, which now stands at $290bn. The prominent backer of Trump’s campaign, benefited from a surge in the share price of Tesla, the electric carmaker where he is chief executive and in which he owns a 13% stake.

The gains came as tech business leaders, including Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, chief executive of Facebook parent Meta, and Apple’s Tim Cook publicly congratulated Trump on his election win.

Much of the gains for the top 10 was because of a surge in US stocks on Wednesday as investors anticipated a low-tax and regulation-light policy platform.

Interesting, can’t see X being banned now

[Wales-Bales]

Interesting, can’t see X being banned now

Maybe voting for the 2028 election will be done via Twitter/X