FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 3 BLACKBURN ROVERS. Match thread

[bluesp]

https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...ave-be-sharper

Can’t disagree with much of what he said there. Seems sensible to arrange a friendly as Daland, for example, has come back in from injury with not much game time before today.

[LA Bluebird]

I don't know what it is with NG these days. Yeah, he's always had that 'wind-up-merchant', niggly aspect to his game, however, he didn't win 'Player Of The Year' award for two consecutive seasons solely based on this.
But he seems to have abandoned ability in favour of the darker side of the game.

We could have scored from an early free kick where he was doing his shithouse routine and got penalized for it, he then proceeded commit an obvious foul on halfway with plenty of players covering where he was lucky not to be booked, and then did the exact same thing from a set piece to get a foul whistled against him a few mins later. Fun and games until we do get a goal wiped off from a set piece or he gets a cheap red card.

Seems clear that referees are focusing on him... when he's playing great it's one thing but on days like today you maybe wish he'd just get on with concentrating on the game.

[Dave Blue]

Can’t disagree with much of what he said there. Seems sensible to arrange a friendly as Daland, for example, has come back in from injury with not much game time before today.

Well that will be the tired excuse out of the window.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Simic not even on the bench for Kortrijk today. He's not going to be the answer to our striker problem.

2.5m well spent...

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Extremely naive & missing a captain / authority on the field. We basically played 4-2-4. We also kept hitting high balls into the box when we didn’t have anyone to get on the end of them.

We don't play 4 at the back in possession, COD plays extremely high and wide. He plays as a winger while Willock/AEG goes inside. For some reason, Ng went into midfield (and he did against Luton too) and it means we are extremely susceptible to counter attacks. Naive is one way of putting it, idiotic is another

[The Lone Gunman]

Fans grizzling about referees is something that has definitely increased in recent years. It's become really boring in my opinion.

Today’s ref was the worst since Wednesday. And Wednesday’s ref was the worst since the previous Saturday. Etc etc.

[bluesp]

Well that will be the tired excuse out of the window.

I’m not sure I get your point?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Today’s ref was the worst since Wednesday. And Wednesday’s ref was the worst since the previous Saturday. Etc etc.

Without a doubt. In fact, I think it would be far better to get rid of referees and have one fan from each side to ref the game.

[Bobby Dandruff]

Even at amateur level they know you don't have the goalie as captain. He's detached from the game, from his players, and from the ref. I'm sure Robertson or Turnbull could do a better job.

Turnbull?? Despite a decent performance at Luton, he does not look captain material to me. In any way.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Today’s ref was the worst since Wednesday. And Wednesday’s ref was the worst since the previous Saturday. Etc etc.

Referee today wasn't very good , its disappointing to see the referee playing a major role in a game .
I pay my money to watch the two teams do battle , not someone( who cant be subbed) who isn't up to the task play a starring role.
Most of the refs this season have been of a decent standard..

[Sparticus_Mills]

I thought Daland looked rusty, as did Robertson. NG had a poor game. El Ghazi should be dropped. Willock looked decent and I though Turnbull looked good. We definitely missed having a striker, how long have we been saying that for?

[Dave Blue]

I’m not sure I get your point?

It’s often an excuse that the players are tired so arranging a friendly to get some up to speed may be counterproductive.

[The Lone Gunman]

Referee today wasn't very good , it’s disappointing to see the referee playing a major role in a game..

He might not have been the greatest referee we’ll ever see at the CCS, but why do you believe he played a major role in the game? He awarded City a penalty, which looked the correct decision to me. Apart from that, what did he do that equated to him playing a starring role?

[Michael Morris]

He might not have been the greatest referee we’ll ever see at the CCS, but why do you believe he played a major role in the game? He awarded City a penalty, which looked the correct decision to me. Apart from that, what did he do that equated to him playing a starring role?

i've only seen it once but just before half time when Robertson was taken out I thought the Blackburn player was in danger of being sent off, but the foul went against us. did the referee get that one right?

[the other bob wilson]

i've only seen it once but just before half time when Robertson was taken out I thought the Blackburn player was in danger of being sent off, but the foul went against us. did the referee get that one right?

Course he didn’t, but it seems we’re not allowed to say the officials are crap these days. On Wednesday the ref was criticised by Riza (the first time he’s done that I believe) for being inconsistent in his interpretation of what was a foul. That was exactly what I was thinking watching the game and let’s not forget that he missed a clear penalty for Luton. If anything, I’d say yesterday’s ref was worse - I’ve said in another thread he wasn’t the reason we lost, but that doesn’t mean that he should not be criticised for being poor - as for the incident you mention, I thought it was an accidental collision between the two players and wouldn’t have given a foul either way.

[The Lone Gunman]

i've only seen it once but just before half time when Robertson was taken out I thought the Blackburn player was in danger of being sent off, but the foul went against us. did the referee get that one right?

I don’t know. I haven’t seen a replay. The ref might well have got that one wrong for all I know. Refs get decisions wrong all the time. They also get a lot of decisions right which fans disagree with because of their own affiliations.

I just find the continual moaning about officials (both during matches and on social media) utterly tedious. If it happened once in a while when a ref had made a blatant error I’d have no problem with it. But it seems to happen throughout and after every game these days.

There were times yesterday when the Canton Stand and half of the Ninian Stand were angrily berating the officials and demanding free kicks for challenges on Colwill and Tanner that were nothing more than straightforward tackles. It was laughable.

[The Lone Gunman]

Course he didn’t, but it seems we’re not allowed to say the officials are crap these days..

You can say whatever you want. You always do.

[bluesp]

I don’t know. I haven’t seen a replay. The ref might well have got that one wrong for all I know. Refs get decisions wrong all the time. They also get a lot of decisions right which fans disagree with because of their own affiliations.

I just find the continual moaning about officials (both during matches and on social media) utterly tedious. If it happened once in a while when a ref had made a blatant error I’d have no problem with it. But it seems to happen throughout and after every game these days.

There were times yesterday when the Canton Stand and half of the Ninian Stand were angrily berating the officials and demanding free kicks for challenges on Colwill and Tanner that were nothing more than straightforward tackles. It was laughable.

I think it’s a lot down to the more intense analysis of refereeing decisions in the media and on tv probably. Personally I thought yesterday was one of the more bizarre performances - giving a foul for Cantwell in the second half for example when no City player was anywhere near him! Also, their 3rd goal NG was clearly pushed in the back in the challenge leading up to it, right in front of the ref. Also, the assistant by the Ninian was obviously of the opinion that shirt pulling, even a yard from him, was fine. It’s inconsistency that I think most frustrates fans - the award of free kicks outside the box when similar offences rarely result in penalties, warning goalkeepers numerous times about time wasting before the yellow card appears usually late in the game, goal kicks and throw ins and all the faffing about that goes with them! City are as guilty of these things of course but as fans we pay to watch a game of football, not the ref and time wasting.

[bluesp]

It’s often an excuse that the players are tired so arranging a friendly to get some up to speed may be counterproductive.

Ah right, I see. I understood the manager was looking to get some game time for players who haven’t been getting much though.

[bobh]

He might not have been the greatest referee we’ll ever see at the CCS, but why do you believe he played a major role in the game? He awarded City a penalty, which looked the correct decision to me. Apart from that, what did he do that equated to him playing a starring role?

I'm a glutton for punishment, so I recorded the game, and watched back some of the critical moments.
Ref was definitely "whistle-happy". As for the collision at the end of the 1st half, both players went for the ball leading with their arms. He could have let it go, awarded a foul either way or even booked both. From his viewpoint, he prob got it right. The lino on the Ninian side was useless.

[The Lone Gunman]

Ref was definitely "whistle-happy". As for the collision at the end of the 1st half, both players went for the ball leading with their arms. He could have let it go, awarded a foul either way or even booked both. From his viewpoint, he prob got it right.

Thanks, interesting. Seems like it wasn’t as clear cut as some have suggested.

As for the ref being whistle-happy, there seemed to be a lot of moaning in the stands yesterday about him letting too much go. He made a couple of decisions that looked questionable from where I was sitting, but nothing major. I didn’t think he was terrible.

Thing is, the game is so quick these days and so many players either hit the deck following the slightest touch or just engage in outright cheating to get decisions that the officials have an increasingly difficult task.

I fully accept we see some poor and inconsistent performances from officials at this level, just as we see poor and inconsistent performances from the players. I just believe the moaning and criticism goes way over the top and it’s definitely increased in recent years, or at least that’s how it seems to me.

[Michael Morris]

Highlights:

[Jimmy the Jock]

He might not have been the greatest referee we’ll ever see at the CCS, but why do you believe he played a major role in the game? He awarded City a penalty, which looked the correct decision to me. Apart from that, what did he do that equated to him playing a starring role?

He was constantly the centre of attention , his decisions made him that way .A better referee would have given us a better spectacle to watch .
You thought he was decent ?

[The Lone Gunman]

You thought he was decent ?

Did I say that?

I thought he had a decent game when we played Millwall a few weeks ago. On Saturday, I didn't think he was especially good or bad. But I thought the crowd's continual whinging was pathetic.