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  • #46
    Re: Club respond to open letter

    Originally posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    Does it ever cross your minds that most people don't share your outrage?

    If there is a procedure why would you not follow it?
    got to agree with this

    if you want more of a say on how the club is run, find yourself £60 Mill and make VT a offer

    the FAB idea was great in theory, but why should a few people who are only fans feel they have a right to know whats happening and demand answers, this isnt non-league football this is a multi million £ business ( thats being run like a car crash I agree ), for me, we have a fan on the board, his name, Steve Borely ( and thats good enough for me :shrug: )

    of course the answer is, if you are not happy walk away ( Silently is better or even a slightly mumble if you must, as we dont want the drama on here, the big grand boycott speech, its embarrassing ) as maybe the new modern elite football game isnt for you, if you walk away, have a look at some of your local non-league teams, they will be happy with your £15 a match ticket and the £10 you spend at the bar, they would be over the moon with that, in fact, you could even volunteer with that club, give something back, even have a say on how its run

    some actually just want to turn up and support the team, watch a bit of football ( which under Riza has improved, I know the score of the last 2 games ) Leave the running of the club to them that run the club

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    • #47
      Re: Club respond to open letter

      Originally posted by blue matt View Post
      got to agree with this

      if you want more of a say on how the club is run, find yourself £60 Mill and make VT a offer

      the FAB idea was great in theory, but why should a few people who are only fans feel they have a right to know whats happening and demand answers, this isnt non-league football this is a multi million £ business ( thats being run like a car crash I agree ), for me, we have a fan on the board, his name, Steve Borely ( and thats good enough for me :shrug: )

      of course the answer is, if you are not happy walk away ( Silently is better or even a slightly mumble if you must, as we dont want the drama on here, the big grand boycott speech, its embarrassing ) as maybe the new modern elite football game isnt for you, if you walk away, have a look at some of your local non-league teams, they will be happy with your £15 a match ticket and the £10 you spend at the bar, they would be over the moon with that, in fact, you could even volunteer with that club, give something back, even have a say on how its run

      some actually just want to turn up and support the team, watch a bit of football ( which under Riza has improved, I know the score of the last 2 games ) Leave the running of the club to them that run the club
      And this is part of the reason we are screwed.

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      • #48
        Re: Club respond to open letter

        Originally posted by Hilts View Post
        And this is part of the reason we are screwed.
        we are just customers though, thats the modern game

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        • #49
          Re: Club respond to open letter

          Originally posted by blue matt View Post
          got to agree with this

          if you want more of a say on how the club is run, find yourself £60 Mill and make VT a offer

          the FAB idea was great in theory, but why should a few people who are only fans feel they have a right to know whats happening and demand answers, this isnt non-league football this is a multi million £ business ( thats being run like a car crash I agree ), for me, we have a fan on the board, his name, Steve Borely ( and thats good enough for me :shrug: )

          of course the answer is, if you are not happy walk away ( Silently is better or even a slightly mumble if you must, as we dont want the drama on here, the big grand boycott speech, its embarrassing ) as maybe the new modern elite football game isnt for you, if you walk away, have a look at some of your local non-league teams, they will be happy with your £15 a match ticket and the £10 you spend at the bar, they would be over the moon with that, in fact, you could even volunteer with that club, give something back, even have a say on how its run

          some actually just want to turn up and support the team, watch a bit of football ( which under Riza has improved, I know the score of the last 2 games ) Leave the running of the club to them that run the club

          Fantastic post, much of my time is devoted within my son’s football team so the running side of a professional football club isn’t my concern just like 95% of our fan base ( judging by trust membership)

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          • #50
            Re: Club respond to open letter

            Originally posted by Hilts View Post
            And this is part of the reason we are screwed.
            A fanbase to be proud of.

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            • #51
              Re: Club respond to open letter

              Originally posted by Hilts View Post
              And this is part of the reason we are screwed.
              I bet you will want Tan to back the manager is the window though right ?

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              • #52
                Re: Club respond to open letter

                Originally posted by blue matt View Post
                we are just customers though, thats the modern game
                Do you reckon customers ever complain about poor service, poor quality products, etc?

                If so, are they right to do so? Or should they just forget it?

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                • #53
                  Re: Club respond to open letter

                  Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                  Do you reckon customers ever complain about poor service, poor quality products, etc?

                  If so, are they right to do so? Or should they just forget it?
                  I don’t think that works if it’s relating to staff appointments and service delivery for a football club as so many factors are based on variables outside of the board’s control ( injuries, weather , fitness , refereeing decisions, suspensions, loss of form etc etc)

                  It’s not Tesco’s.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Club respond to open letter

                    We are customers.

                    But every solvent company, apart from the semi-state or state-run single entities finds telling you to lump it or leave it does not offer long-term returns.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Club respond to open letter

                      Originally posted by blue matt View Post
                      this isnt non-league football
                      Yet weve just employed a non league manager. Oh the irony,

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                      • #56
                        Re: Club respond to open letter

                        Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                        It’s not Tesco’s.
                        Sainsbury's.

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                        • #57
                          Re: Club respond to open letter

                          Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                          Sainsbury's.
                          Shhhhhh, this is an adult forum , not the school yard

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                          • #58
                            Re: Club respond to open letter

                            Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                            Shhhhhh, this is an adult forum , not the school yard
                            It's all a conspiracy. All of it.

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                            • #59
                              Re: Club respond to open letter

                              Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                              I don’t think that works if it’s relating to staff appointments and service delivery for a football club as so many factors are based on variables outside of the board’s control ( injuries, weather , fitness , refereeing decisions, suspensions, loss of form etc etc)

                              It’s not Tesco’s.
                              No it is not Tesco.

                              I don't care about Tesco. I do not support Tesco. I feel no sense of pride or frustration if Tesco produces bigger dividends for its shareholders than Sainsbury. I do not read books about the greatest check out staff in Tesco in the golden years of the 1970s. I will not travel 200 miles each way to buy a pint of milk and a paper at Tesco.

                              I do care about Cardiff City Football Club. It maybe irrational, but there it is!

                              The Board do not have to produce a plan. They do not have to keep the supporters (their customers) informed and involved. They do not have to be competent. But it helps if they have a plan, communicate well and show that they are on top of their jobs or roles. It will be better for their reputation and the club's financial position. It will generate more goodwill, enthusiasm and new supporters (customers). It is a win-win.

                              Supporters are not the same as customers. At times the club appears to recognise that (even if just with cliched soundbites) but too often it clearly doesn't. If you and Matt are happy with that, it is your choice. I hope you are in the minority - but maybe you aren't.

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                              • #60
                                Re: Club respond to open letter

                                Originally posted by blue matt View Post
                                of course the answer is, if you are not happy walk away ( Silently is better or even a slightly mumble if you must, as we dont want the drama on here, the big grand boycott speech, its embarrassing )
                                Who put you in charge? You don’t want the drama on here but Mike started the thread?

                                What are you saying? The mods can start a thread but you don’t want replies that don’t align with your own personal opinion?

                                That’s the sort of dictatorship Tan would be proud of.

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