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    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    A couple of weeks ago people were saying it was an amazing squad when we beat Plymouth and Portsmouth, but it wasn't it is a mid table squad
    Bollocks

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    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    I think Daland and or Fish, and maybe even Reindorf will start the next game.

  3. #28

    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Not really, Davies would improve it as would Tanner with O'Dowda, but we need a striker desperately and in the past the whole team used to score a few each, but thats gone.
    Tanner rarely tried to beat his man in recent games. You are probably remembering hm at his best rather than at his usual.

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    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Bollocks
    maybe not those words, but they were saying, see it's a good squad look how good and attacking they are without Bulut, and saying it was the Manager not the players.

  5. #30

    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Weak, but we were last season, Tanner is now probably better than Bowler, or at least as good. I think we are missing Grant, he was underappreciated last year, but was a good solid hard hard-working player. O'Dowda is back though and not much worse than Grant I would say.

    The defence is a shambles but I think the quality of the players is probably better than last year, it;'s got to be time for Daland and Fish to start getting some game time. The problem is it's hard to bring them into a team that is so disorganised, and without the players around them switched on enough to allow them to fit in smoothly.

    A couple of weeks ago people were saying it was an amazing squad when we beat Plymouth and Portsmouth, but it wasn't it is a mid table squad in desperate need of Issac Davies and someone better than him again, who are badly underperforming.

    But I understand it's very subjective and some will feel different, as they have looked so bad over the last six games or so.


    Sorry mate, Olie Tanner has scored 3 goals and has 3 assist in his CCFC career. In what world is he anywhere near Bowler? Grant gave us championship speed and stamina which is sadly missing. O'Dowda is a left midfielder in a system that doesn't use wide midfielders so the manager doesn't know if he is an attacker or fullback. Robinson hasn't the ability to be a 10 and lost his speed to be a centre forward and Rubin is a deep-lying midfielder but the manager would never trust him there.

    We needed an old head, i am not your mate manager. A Mowbrey father figure rather than a trendy big brother who has never demonstrated to have found a solution to a footballing problem as he is totally untried and untested.

    There is normally a solution in there and that is why the good ones whatever age hang around, because they are good at this football thing.

  6. #31

    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Like Mick McCarthy?
    I think only Mick McCarthy is like Mick McCarthy.

    The lackadaisical press , lack of making options , lack of actually running around made me feel a stick was needed last night .
    Not forever but until there was an actual effort shown by the players.
    Risa was muted the whole evening . The people round me were doing more shouting....
    As individuals we have decent players at this level, last couple of home games Risa hasn't got a tune out of them.
    Our recent away performances have been better.
    We lack a centre forward, Reindorf, showed why young players arent always the answer, he isnt ready yet..
    Bagan on the other hand showed that Risa may not be the answer , he was playing extremely well , a couple of his forward passes were sublime , he got the ball and carried it forward as well . Good reason to hook him I guess?

    Tony Mowbray has got a track record of improving teams at this level.

    He would do for me .

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    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by llan bluebird View Post
    Sorry mate, Olie Tanner has scored 3 goals and has 3 assist in his CCFC career. In what world is he anywhere near Bowler? Grant gave us championship speed and stamina which is sadly missing. O'Dowda is a left midfielder in a system that doesn't use wide midfielders so the manager doesn't know if he is an attacker or fullback. Robinson hasn't the ability to be a 10 and lost his speed to be a centre forward and Rubin is a deep-lying midfielder but the manager would never trust him there.

    We needed an old head, i am not your mate manager. A Mowbrey father figure rather than a trendy big brother who has never demonstrated to have found a solution to a footballing problem as he is totally untried and untested.

    There is normally a solution in there and that is why the good ones whatever age hang around, because they are good at this football thing.
    I don't think Bowler was very good for us after the initial few games but I get your point, I think we miss Grant's work rate for sure.

    We agree on Mowbray he is what is really needed.

  8. #33

    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by llan bluebird View Post
    Sorry mate, Olie Tanner has scored 3 goals and has 3 assist in his CCFC career. In what world is he anywhere near Bowler? Grant gave us championship speed and stamina which is sadly missing. O'Dowda is a left midfielder in a system that doesn't use wide midfielders so the manager doesn't know if he is an attacker or fullback. Robinson hasn't the ability to be a 10 and lost his speed to be a centre forward and Rubin is a deep-lying midfielder but the manager would never trust him there.

    We needed an old head, i am not your mate manager. A Mowbrey father figure rather than a trendy big brother who has never demonstrated to have found a solution to a footballing problem as he is totally untried and untested.

    There is normally a solution in there and that is why the good ones whatever age hang around, because they are good at this football thing.
    Spot on .
    O'dowda looks terrible when playing up front, somehow he is a far better player when playing full back .

  9. #34

    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Bollocks
    With a decent manager there is a top half side in there . We could do with another forward though.

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    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Like Mick McCarthy?
    He had an instant impact when he came in remember.

    The wrong long term hire but, in his time, would be safer hands than Riza, without doubt.

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    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    With a decent manager there is a top half side in there . We could do with another forward though.
    Quite - how quickly people forget what was posted when Riza won a few games after coming in.

  12. #37

    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    What we need is about 15 players that can play at this level
    Could be a plan, could we make a four man advantage work though?

  13. #38

    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire View Post
    Now you've got me thinking because the only person who springs to mind is 'the invisible man'! they were all sh1te!
    Joel Bagan played well till he was hooked.

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    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    Joel Bagan played well till he was hooked.
    And O'Dowda wasn't bad, and was at least trying.

  15. #40

    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    Quite - how quickly people forget what was posted when Riza won a few games after coming in.
    What was posted after Riza won a few games doesn't reflect the reality of the situation. The truth is some people were going way over the top about a couple of decent performances against two of the very weakest sides in the division and a couple of fortunate results against better sides.

    This current City squad isn't a good one. It wasn't a good one last season, and the new recruits are mostly proving a desperate disappointment.

  16. #41

    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    What was posted after Riza won a few games doesn't reflect the reality of the situation. The truth is some people were going way over the top about a couple of decent performances against two of the very weakest sides in the division and a couple of fortunate results against better sides.

    This current City squad isn't a good one. It wasn't a good one last season, and the new recruits are mostly proving a desperate disappointment.
    Isn't that because they are lacking good management . Why was there such a furor to get Riza or anyone on a contract?

    A good manager should get the best out of the players, I don't feel we are seeing the best of the players.

    The away performances have been better than some of the dross we have been served up at home recently.

  17. #42

    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    What makes you think that only an old school manager is capable of organising, calming down and building confidence in players? I don't know if you have children, but would you insist on your kids having old school teachers in school as they're the only ones capable of organising, calming down and building confidence in pupils?
    Maybe not a good analogy, because my answer to that question would be yes.

  18. #43

    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    Isn't that because they are lacking good management.
    I'm not so sure.

    I had high hopes for Chambers - I thought he'd cope with the Championship comfortably and improve the defence. He hasn't. Not at all.

    Daland and Fish are largely unknow quantities - we haven't seen enough of either of them to be sure if they're any good or not.

    Given his size, El Ghazi is amazingly lightweight. He's clearly a shadow of the player he once was. Doesn't look like he fancies it to me. Willock, meanwhile, has been a waste of a wage.

    Kanga's just a joke of a signing. Utterly hopeless.

    Of the new recruits, only Robertson has performed with any genuine credit, and he's clearly got a long way to go before he'd be considered one of the better midfielders at this level. Time is on his side and he has obvious talent, but he has plenty of work to do.

    Overall, the summer recruitment was poor. Would a decent manager get more out of those players? You'd hope so, but I suspect the improvements would be marginal based on what we've seen so far.

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    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I'm not so sure.

    I had high hopes for Chambers - I thought he'd cope with the Championship comfortably and improve the defence. He hasn't. Not at all.

    Daland and Fish are largely unknow quantities - we haven't seen enough of either of them to be sure if they're any good or not.

    Given his size, El Ghazi is amazingly lightweight. He's clearly a shadow of the player he once was. Doesn't look like he fancies it to me. Willock, meanwhile, has been a waste of a wage.

    Kanga's just a joke of a signing. Utterly hopeless.

    Of the new recruits, only Robertson has performed with any genuine credit, and he's clearly got a long way to go before he'd be considered one of the better midfielders at this level. Time is on his side and he has obvious talent, but he has plenty of work to do.

    Overall, the summer recruitment was poor. Would a decent manager get more out of those players? You'd hope so, but I suspect the improvements would be marginal based on what we've seen so far.
    El Ghazi was coming back from a year out with injury , then got injured again so better to come.

    Willock has been ok in my eyes , hasnt really had a run in the team so once again better to come.

    Kanga , even his defence lawyer couldn't put a case up for him.

  20. #45

    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    El Ghazi was coming back from a year out with injury , then got injured again so better to come.
    I don't think that's right. He had almost a year out because Mainz terminated his contract and then he was in dispute with them. He wasn't injured.

    He was obviously going to take a little time to get up to speed after such a long lay-off, but he's shown little to suggest there's better to come. You'd hope there would be, but as I've already said - I don't think he fancies it.

  21. #46

    Re: We needed a Mowbray

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I don't think that's right. He had almost a year out because Mainz terminated his contract and then he was in dispute with them. He wasn't injured.

    He was obviously going to take a little time to get up to speed after such a long lay-off, but he's shown little to suggest there's better to come. You'd hope there would be, but as I've already said - I don't think he fancies it.
    I stand corrected, I knew he had a year out , he spoke on level 3 the other day , he sounded keen to show what he can do and stated he has more to give, made the right noises.
    Lets hope he does have more to give.

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