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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    are you ok?
    Not currently in the UK, connection was dodgy, thanks for your concern 😂😂😂😂 probably have chicken for dinner, no chlorinated stuff here. 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    Not currently in the UK, connection was dodgy, thanks for your concern �������� probably have chicken for dinner, no chlorinated stuff here. ��
    Or here silly!

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    At least the cows won't be farting anymore!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Yeah I think whilst they can help in giving support, they are never the best figureheads.
    If i was a farmer I'd be pretty pissed off that the likes of Clarkson were putting themselves at the forefront of the protests and it's entirely the fault of people like him trying to exploit a tax loophole that the rules have had to be changed anyway.
    He's caused this issue with the other greedy people.

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Welsh farmers learning from continental cousins and extinction rebellion..

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy48z54l24o

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Welsh farmers learning from continental cousins and extinction rebellion..

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy48z54l24o
    Sure fire way to lose even more public support

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Welsh farmers learning from continental cousins and extinction rebellion..

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy48z54l24o
    Absolute scum. Get the riot police in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    Sure fire way to lose even more public support
    Could go one of two ways I guess. The train drivers caused a lot of disruption and got a big pay rise. Extinction Rebellion on the other hand, I would suggest, generally grew to piss people off more.

    Personally I sense the govt won't win this battle.

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Could go one of two ways I guess. The train drivers caused a lot of disruption and got a big pay rise. Extinction Rebellion on the other hand, I would suggest, generally grew to piss people off more.

    Personally I sense the govt won't win this battle.
    I don't see much public support for the farmers' position, outside of wealthy farmers or those looking to score a few political points from it.

    I can't see the farmers really digging in with any protests either to the point where they start damaging their own livelihoods over something that will only affect a proportion of them after they die.

    I think they'll be able to ride this out.

    Once the media lose interest it'll be quickly forgotten - and the millionaire tax dodgers will all move onto another scam.

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I don't see much public support for the farmers' position, outside of wealthy farmers or those looking to score a few political points from it.

    I can't see the farmers really digging in with any protests either to the point where they start damaging their own livelihoods over something that will only affect a proportion of them after they die.

    I think they'll be able to ride this out.

    Once the media lose interest it'll be quickly forgotten - and the millionaire tax dodgers will all move onto another scam.
    Some farmers not all (those who allow boevar to be injected to their live stock) will soon be loosing the support from an increasing number of citizens, from lists circulated thus far, only two products sometimes fall into our shopping basket, these will now be replaced with alternatives, and unless anything changes milk will be bought only from one particular outlet.

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    Another big protest today on Whitehall and talk of strikes on the way.

    I really do think this is the second big error of judgement the govt have made after the winter fuel cuts for pensioners. Just the wrong fights to pick

    https://order-order.com/2024/12/11/f...ike-across-uk/

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Another big protest today on Whitehall and talk of strikes on the way.

    I really do think this is the second big error of judgement the govt have made after the winter fuel cuts for pensioners. Just the wrong fights to pick

    https://order-order.com/2024/12/11/f...ike-across-uk/
    The policies are coming from Davos, not Downing St.

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Another big protest today on Whitehall and talk of strikes on the way.

    I really do think this is the second big error of judgement the govt have made after the winter fuel cuts for pensioners. Just the wrong fights to pick

    https://order-order.com/2024/12/11/f...ike-across-uk/
    What are the right fights to pick?

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Farmers own 70% of the UK's land - yet they contribute just 0.6% to our economy.

    Why should these millionaire landowners pay 20% inheritance tax while everyone else pays 40%?

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Farmers own 70% of the UK's land - yet they contribute just 0.6% to our economy.

    Why should these millionaire landowners pay 20% inheritance tax while everyone else pays 40%?
    word for word



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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    Plagiarism!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    I must admit the sight of someone whose contribution is almost exclusively parroting Q cards pulling another up for unoriginal thought did give me a hearty chuckle this morning.

    Thanks Nels!

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    I must admit the sight of someone whose contribution is almost exclusively parroting Q cards pulling another up for unoriginal thought did give me a hearty chuckle this morning.

    Thanks Nels!
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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    I must admit the sight of someone whose contribution is almost exclusively parroting Q cards pulling another up for unoriginal thought did give me a hearty chuckle this morning.

    Thanks Nels!
    Pleased I made your day 😊. Anything to wind up the right wing loons on here.

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    What are the right fights to pick?
    Probably winnable ones that don't destroy confidence in the economy leading to two months of contraction, plummeting polls resulting in the most unpopular new government in n history, resulting in likely deaths of old folk, farmers protesting and threatening to strike etc.

    I have no idea who is advising the Labour Party but I would sack them

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Farmers own 70% of the UK's land - yet they contribute just 0.6% to our economy.

    Why should these millionaire landowners pay 20% inheritance tax while everyone else pays 40%?
    Cos they aren't my millionaires. The asset is in land currently occupied by sheep and crops. That's why.

  22. #122

    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Cos they aren't my millionaires. The asset is in land currently occupied by sheep and crops. That's why.
    I’m not a millionaire, I will leave my house to my family and they will have to pay inheritance tax. My heart bleeds for them. Always bloody winging, sell
    some sheep or a Land Rover.

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    I’m not a millionaire, I will leave my house to my family and they will have to pay inheritance tax. My heart bleeds for them. Always bloody winging, sell
    some sheep or a Land Rover.
    I'm sure they appreciate your heartfelt support. If nothing else, it's good to know your enemy👍

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I'm sure they appreciate your heartfelt support. If nothing else, it's good to know your enemy��
    I know you dine off a different perspective so looking at those businesses encouraging investors that agricultural land is and has been a fantastic investment for whoever compared with other takeovers tells a tale I guess!

    When CPI inflation is accounted for, land values have seen significant growth in real terms (as seen in figure 1), at an annualised rate of 3.1% from 1991 to 2021 (a total of 152.3%), demonstrating a substantial increase for those who have invested over a generation. Against rising inflation, pragmatic investors have been able to use farmland in order to diversify their portfolio and protect wealth, safe in the knowledge that the long-term performance offers a strong value uplift plus a rental income stream


    https://www.carterjonas.co.uk/rural/...al-land-values

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    I know you dine off a different perspective so looking at those businesses encouraging investors that agricultural land is and has been a fantastic investment for whoever compared with other takeovers tells a tale I guess!

    When CPI inflation is accounted for, land values have seen significant growth in real terms (as seen in figure 1), at an annualised rate of 3.1% from 1991 to 2021 (a total of 152.3%), demonstrating a substantial increase for those who have invested over a generation. Against rising inflation, pragmatic investors have been able to use farmland in order to diversify their portfolio and protect wealth, safe in the knowledge that the long-term performance offers a strong value uplift plus a rental income stream


    https://www.carterjonas.co.uk/rural/...al-land-values
    So tax them if it's removed from agricultural use. Not when it is passed on for continual use in agriculture.

    There is a reason they are so furious and it's not because they are passing on millions to their kids - if that were the case they wouldn't be standing knee deep in shite day in day out.

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