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  1. #151

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    So your book of fairy stories is not man made?
    Not at all, God scribbled down the Bible during the long evenings.

  2. #152

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Not at all, God scribbled down the Bible during the long evenings.

  3. #153

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    It's evident to anyone with an open mind that there is more evidence to support evolution (and I have never stated it as fact, by the way) than a talking snake, a virgin birth, a talking donkey, people being turned to salt, people rising from the dead, lepers being instantly healed, people living until they are 800 years old, water miraculously being turned into wine and the other fairy stories that The Bible lifted greatly from other religions.

    Your side of the argument is truly laughable, as a Biblical donkey might say.
    Well the donkey spoke God's Word - you speak the words of your god; who is the Ass?

  4. #154

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Well the donkey spoke God's Word - you speak the words of your god; who is the Ass?
    I think it's pretty obvious who the ass is. Someone who believes one can talk.

  5. #155

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I think it's pretty obvious who the ass is. Someone who believes one can talk.
    You've made your choice, others get to make their individual choices too.
    Do you observe Christmas? Or do you have an alternative celebration?

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    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    You've made your choice, others get to make their individual choices too.
    Do you observe Christmas? Or do you have an alternative celebration?

    Almost everyone observes Christmas, but almost everyone has a different way of seeing from you.

    Now it is presents, family, turkey and Die Hard day!

    For traditionalists it will always be Mithras Day.

    Another pagan festival borrowed then stolen by early Christians?

    The same Christians who made up a date for Christmas in the early 4th century?

    Tell us about the talking ass.

  7. #157

    Re: Justin Welby

    Some serious mocking going on here, you’ll all be struck down you know like Lennon

  8. #158

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Almost everyone observes Christmas, but almost everyone has a different way of seeing from you.

    Now it is presents, family, turkey and Die Hard day!

    For traditionalists it will always be Mithras Day.

    Another pagan festival borrowed then stolen by early Christians?

    The same Christians who made up a date for Christmas in the early 4th century?

    Tell us about the talking ass.
    It's busy having a natter with the snake at the mo.

  9. #159

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    It's busy having a natter with the snake at the mo.

  10. #160

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    You've made your choice, others get to make their individual choices too.
    Do you observe Christmas? Or do you have an alternative celebration?
    I see it as a time to visit friends and family, something that has been associated with mid-winter customs going back to the pagans.
    I haven't erected a fir tree, real or fake, at home but helped my partner do so in her home - and that mimics pagan practises too.
    And although I try to insist that I personally don't want to have any presents around this time of the year I do buy them for other people. Apparently, that practice is associated wirth the Roman god of Saturnalia.

    I am neither Christian nor pagan - and nor do I worship Roman gods. I recognise traditions around the world as a matter of course (and I recently returned from two predominantly muslim countries, where I visited some mosques and spoke to people therein), which may be construed as 'observing' religions in some respects but, despite my fascination for cultures across the world, I have never encountered enough evidence to believe in Shiva, Apollo, Thor, Isis, Amaterasu, Nuwa, Yemayá, Jahweh, Shango, Anzar, Torngarsuk or the thousands of other deities that have been worshipped. I don't 'celebrate' their supposed birth dates nor any other dates associated with any deities or manifestations thereof.

  11. #161

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I see it as a time to visit friends and family, something that has been associated with mid-winter customs going back to the pagans.
    I haven't erected a fir tree, real or fake, at home but helped my partner do so in her home - and that mimics pagan practises too.
    And although I try to insist that I personally don't want to have any presents around this time of the year I do buy them for other people. Apparently, that practice is associated wirth the Roman god of Saturnalia.

    I am neither Christian nor pagan - and nor do I worship Roman gods. I recognise traditions around the world as a matter of course (and I recently returned from two predominantly muslim countries, where I visited some mosques and spoke to people therein), which may be construed as 'observing' religions in some respects but, despite my fascination for cultures across the world, I have never encountered enough evidence to believe in Shiva, Apollo, Thor, Isis, Amaterasu, Nuwa, Yemayá, Jahweh, Shango, Anzar, Torngarsuk or the thousands of other deities that have been worshipped. I don't 'celebrate' their supposed birth dates nor any other dates associated with any deities or manifestations thereof.
    For 'practises' read 'practices'. Noun, not verb.

  12. #162

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    You've made your choice, others get to make their individual choices too.
    Do you observe Christmas? Or do you have an alternative celebration?
    Are you on your usual spot on Queens Street these days?

  13. #163

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Are you on your usual spot on Queens Street these days?
    He's not there on Tuesdays (Týr's day), Wednesdays (Woden's day / Óđin's day), Thursdays (Ţórr's day / Thor's day) or Fridays (Frígg's day / Freya's day).

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  15. #165

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I see it as a time to visit friends and family, something that has been associated with mid-winter customs going back to the pagans.
    I haven't erected a fir tree, real or fake, at home but helped my partner do so in her home - and that mimics pagan practises too.
    And although I try to insist that I personally don't want to have any presents around this time of the year I do buy them for other people. Apparently, that practice is associated wirth the Roman god of Saturnalia.

    I am neither Christian nor pagan - and nor do I worship Roman gods. I recognise traditions around the world as a matter of course (and I recently returned from two predominantly muslim countries, where I visited some mosques and spoke to people therein), which may be construed as 'observing' religions in some respects but, despite my fascination for cultures across the world, I have never encountered enough evidence to believe in Shiva, Apollo, Thor, Isis, Amaterasu, Nuwa, Yemayá, Jahweh, Shango, Anzar, Torngarsuk or the thousands of other deities that have been worshipped. I don't 'celebrate' their supposed birth dates nor any other dates associated with any deities or manifestations thereof.
    Yet your inability to ignore any comment that upholds Christ is inconsistent with your (above) comment. If you were this disinterested agnostic you would behave as such, you don't so you are obviously not the person you claim to be.

  16. #166

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Yet your inability to ignore any comment that upholds Christ is inconsistent with your (above) comment. If you were this disinterested agnostic you would behave as such, you don't so you are obviously not the person you claim to be.
    When have I said that I am a disinterested agnostic?

  17. #167

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    Why do these bastards have to make it about themselves? Why can't they just **** off.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czenj288welo

  18. #168

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Lung View Post
    Why do these bastards have to make it about themselves? Why can't they just **** off.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czenj288welo
    Because they have a form of godliness but end up denying God's Power. The last thing they will ever do is open the 'manual' to see how to fix their own lives, so how can they start advising everyone else?

  19. #169

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    When have I said that I am a disinterested agnostic?
    Constantly over the entire year by all you write.

  20. #170

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Constantly over the entire year by all you write.
    That's just your warped interpretation. I'm very interested in religions across the globe as they are part of wider historical cultural influences.

  21. #171

    Re: Justin Welby

    Don’t worry - all religions will be debunked very soon. Haven’t you heard?

  22. #172

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    Don’t worry - all religions will be debunked very soon. Haven’t you heard?
    A thinking child could debunk religion, however that's not the issue. Try and get that before the year (or time) runs out.

  23. #173

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    Don’t worry - all religions will be debunked very soon. Haven’t you heard?
    They won't be debunked whilst people are religiously indoctrinated as children. It's a very strong cultural influence. Children growing up to believe that the holy books and writings foisted upon them are from the one true deity are prone to believe in the existence of half-man half-elephant, virgins in paradise, talking animals or any other absurd phenomena that seem to have happened thousands of years ago but not since. Most religions seem to teach that their own sect is the only true one and that non-believers (aka heretics, apostates and the like) are to be punished by being consigned to Naraka, hell, Hades Gehinnom etc.

    It's myopic in the extreme but until children are encouraged to think beyone the confines of their immediate family and community religion will exist, albeit in decline across the board where education in its real sense is improved.

  24. #174

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    They won't be debunked whilst people are religiously indoctrinated as children. It's a very strong cultural influence. Children growing up to believe that the holy books and writings foisted upon them are from the one true deity are prone to believe in the existence of half-man half-elephant, virgins in paradise, talking animals or any other absurd phenomena that seem to have happened thousands of years ago but not since. Most religions seem to teach that their own sect is the only true one and that non-believers (aka heretics, apostates and the like) are to be punished by being consigned to Naraka, hell, Hades Gehinnom etc.

    It's myopic in the extreme but until children are encouraged to think beyone the confines of their immediate family and community religion will exist, albeit in decline across the board where education in its real sense is improved.
    Children (even in Church schools) are taught about many faiths, and just as you and thers like you would have it, they are taught via the vast majority of books, tv series, video games and movies that secular thinking people are wise and those who trust in the Christ are rather foolish. This is why in our culture we have a spiritual vacuum which is being rapidly filled with veiled and sometimes thinly veiled occultic teachings which most people will think are harmess or simply entertaining.
    Ultimately they are far more dangerous than anyone can actually imagine.

  25. #175

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Children (even in Church schools) are taught about many faiths, and just as you and thers like you would have it, they are taught via the vast majority of books, tv series, video games and movies that secular thinking people are wise and those who trust in the Christ are rather foolish. This is why in our culture we have a spiritual vacuum which is being rapidly filled with veiled and sometimes thinly veiled occultic teachings which most people will think are harmess or simply entertaining.
    Ultimately they are far more dangerous than anyone can actually imagine.
    Yep christianity gets everywhere.

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