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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    Very true
    Undoubtedly, and safeguarding and justice are among the least important agenda for some people. "Hubble bubble, toil and trouble"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    The economy Pakistani men work in is predominantly the night time economy, Taxi drivers, restaurants, take aways etc. That doesn't take away the fact that these people are Paedophiles, but i can't remember us having the same conversation about predominantly white catholic priests and nuns who committed abuse against children, and rightly so, the conversation should be about protecting children and locking up paedophiles for a very long time. As ever, certain groups attempt to push it as a cultural thing.
    nun rapists? it is a racist / religion driven phenomenon, have you read any of the survivors accounts??

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    nun rapists? it is a racist / religion driven phenomenon, have you read any of the survivors accounts??
    Oh god, the racist is back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Lung View Post
    Oh god, the racist is back.
    oh allah, racism would get me banned

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    Quote Originally Posted by PontBlue View Post
    He's only involving himself in European Politics to line his pockets. His goal is to place a puppet in charge of every government. He couldn't give too ****s about anyone who was groomed.

    Another inquiry is all well and good but neither government has (yet) implemented the recommendations of the last 7 year long inquiry. If another inquiry delays action that's another generation of children who could fall victim to these scum.
    The power of nation states in The West have been usurped by multinational companies for some time.

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    Southport murder trial today, a guilty verdict!!! and a public enquiry announced, further covering up by Starmer and the authorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    Southport murder trial today, a guilty verdict!!! and a public enquiry announced, further covering up by Starmer and the authorities.
    Not another public inquiry? The country really is descending into fascism now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    Southport murder trial today, a guilty verdict!!! and a public enquiry announced, further covering up by Starmer and the authorities.
    Cover up by Starmer LMFAO. The attacker lived for 14 years under a Tory government who failed to act on information about his potential for violence. But yes it’s Starmers fault because he was in power for 25 days before the attack. Bloody nuts the lot of you. Go join your rapist butty in America, you can spread your lies to your hearts content over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Not another public inquiry? The country really is descending into fascism now.
    Think you’ll find the facist and rapist has just been appointed the USA president. Why didn’t the orange felon MAGA the last time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    Southport murder trial today, a guilty verdict!!! and a public enquiry announced, further covering up by Starmer and the authorities.
    He did plead guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    He did plead guilty.
    I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Think you’ll find the facist and rapist has just been appointed the USA president. Why didn’t the orange felon MAGA the last time?
    Not sure. And the idea he will achieve what he says now is also plainly ridiculous, as it is for every political speech ever given at the start of any term.

    This thread isn't about him though, is it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    Southport murder trial today, a guilty verdict!!! and a public enquiry announced, further covering up by Starmer and the authorities.

    How was Starmer and his team in any way responsible for any of the mess given that the tory party and their home secretary's have been in power since that murderer was 3 years old ?

    Is this a joke ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Cover up by Starmer LMFAO. The attacker lived for 14 years under a Tory government who failed to act on information about his potential for violence. But yes it’s Starmers fault because he was in power for 25 days before the attack. Bloody nuts the lot of you. Go join your rapist butty in America, you can spread your lies to your hearts content over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    How was Starmer and his team in any way responsible for any of the mess given that the tory party and their home secretary's have been in power since that murderer was 3 years old ?

    Is this a joke ?
    GOTCHA!!! welcome back by the way, I vouched for you in the secret vote

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    GOTCHA!!! welcome back by the way, I vouched for you in the secret vote
    What secret vote was that ?

  17. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Think you’ll find the facist and rapist has just been appointed the USA president. Why didn’t the orange felon MAGA the last time?
    TDR , rapist ? and we have established facist just means ''i don't agree with your views''

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    https://www.sheffieldtribune.co.uk/c...une-newsletter

    The big story: CSE report ‘protected senior police officers’, say whistleblowers

    Top line: South Yorkshire Mayor Oliver Coppard has demanded to see a report produced by the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) into the actions of senior South Yorkshire Police officers during the Rotherham grooming gang scandal. His demand comes after a Channel 4 News report in which two former IOPC staff said the investigation was seriously flawed and they were discouraged from looking into the actions of senior officers.

    Background: Ever since the Jay report concluded in 2014 that failures by South Yorkshire Police contributed to the sexual abuse of 1,400 girls in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013, efforts have been made to find out what went wrong. Set up a decade ago, Operation Linden cost Ł6 million and reported in 2022. After Hillsborough, it was the second largest investigation that the IOPC or its predecessor the IPCC had ever carried out.

    The IOPC carried out 91 investigations into police failings covering 265 separate allegations made by 51 complainants. 47 officers were investigated, with the IOPC concluding eight had a case to answer for misconduct and six for gross misconduct.

    However, no officers lost their job as a result of the investigation and the most severe sanction was a written warning. In 2022, Mr Coppard’s predecessor as Police and Crime Commissioner Dr Alan Billings said that in failing to “identify any individual accountability”, the report had “let down victims and survivors”.

    Latest allegations: Last week, two whistleblowers involved in Operation Linden spoke to Channel 4 News. They allege that IOPC investigators were specifically told not to probe senior officers’ involvement in the failings and that the inquiry “barely scratched the surface”.


    Operation Amazon: Another strand of Operation Linden looked specifically into allegations made by Rotherham CSE campaigner Jayne Senior and former South Yorkshire Police staff member Dr Angie Heal that senior SYP officers had failed in their statutory duties to protect vulnerable children. That investigation, Operation Amazon, upheld their complaint, but the report has never been made public, and Senior and Heal believe it has been deliberately “buried”. It is this report that Oliver Coppard is demanding to be given sight of. Speaking to Channel 4 News on Saturday, Mr Coppard said:

    “What I ultimately want is to see the report so I can decide for myself whether that investigation was done properly and effectively and that people in South Yorkshire can have confidence in that work. I have asked them for it and my predecessor asked them for it. They said no to him but I’m hoping they have had a change of heart.”

    When Channel 4 News’ Alex Thompson suggested that as the person with responsibility for overseeing the police in South Yorkshire, he should be able to demand to be able to see the report, Mr Coppard replied: “Well, you would think so, wouldn’t you?”

    IOPC response: In their response to Channel 4 News, the IOPC strongly refuted the allegations. They said there had been a dedicated investigation team within Operation Linden which was focused solely on senior police officers, and that had they found any indication of corruption, it would have been “rigorously pursued”.

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    Re: Rotherham Grooming Ganga

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    What secret vote was that ?
    You can't ask that. It's a secret init?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    https://www.sheffieldtribune.co.uk/c...une-newsletter

    The big story: CSE report ‘protected senior police officers’, say whistleblowers

    Top line: South Yorkshire Mayor Oliver Coppard has demanded to see a report produced by the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) into the actions of senior South Yorkshire Police officers during the Rotherham grooming gang scandal. His demand comes after a Channel 4 News report in which two former IOPC staff said the investigation was seriously flawed and they were discouraged from looking into the actions of senior officers.

    Background: Ever since the Jay report concluded in 2014 that failures by South Yorkshire Police contributed to the sexual abuse of 1,400 girls in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013, efforts have been made to find out what went wrong. Set up a decade ago, Operation Linden cost Ł6 million and reported in 2022. After Hillsborough, it was the second largest investigation that the IOPC or its predecessor the IPCC had ever carried out.

    The IOPC carried out 91 investigations into police failings covering 265 separate allegations made by 51 complainants. 47 officers were investigated, with the IOPC concluding eight had a case to answer for misconduct and six for gross misconduct.

    However, no officers lost their job as a result of the investigation and the most severe sanction was a written warning. In 2022, Mr Coppard’s predecessor as Police and Crime Commissioner Dr Alan Billings said that in failing to “identify any individual accountability”, the report had “let down victims and survivors”.

    Latest allegations: Last week, two whistleblowers involved in Operation Linden spoke to Channel 4 News. They allege that IOPC investigators were specifically told not to probe senior officers’ involvement in the failings and that the inquiry “barely scratched the surface”.


    Operation Amazon: Another strand of Operation Linden looked specifically into allegations made by Rotherham CSE campaigner Jayne Senior and former South Yorkshire Police staff member Dr Angie Heal that senior SYP officers had failed in their statutory duties to protect vulnerable children. That investigation, Operation Amazon, upheld their complaint, but the report has never been made public, and Senior and Heal believe it has been deliberately “buried”. It is this report that Oliver Coppard is demanding to be given sight of. Speaking to Channel 4 News on Saturday, Mr Coppard said:

    “What I ultimately want is to see the report so I can decide for myself whether that investigation was done properly and effectively and that people in South Yorkshire can have confidence in that work. I have asked them for it and my predecessor asked them for it. They said no to him but I’m hoping they have had a change of heart.”

    When Channel 4 News’ Alex Thompson suggested that as the person with responsibility for overseeing the police in South Yorkshire, he should be able to demand to be able to see the report, Mr Coppard replied: “Well, you would think so, wouldn’t you?”

    IOPC response: In their response to Channel 4 News, the IOPC strongly refuted the allegations. They said there had been a dedicated investigation team within Operation Linden which was focused solely on senior police officers, and that had they found any indication of corruption, it would have been “rigorously pursued”.
    It is so scary that something as big as this was dismissed so easily.

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    Was one of the grooming gangs South Yorkshire Police?

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...tation-inquiry

    A third former South Yorkshire police officer has been arrested as part of an investigation into child sexual exploitation in Rotherham.

    The ex-constable, aged in his 50s, was arrested on Monday on suspicion of raping a teenage girl in the town in 2004.

    It follows the arrests late last year of two former South Yorkshire police officers on suspicion of sexual offences and misconduct in public office.

    It is alleged their offending took place when the officers, who were based in Rotherham, were both on and off duty between 1995 and 2002.

    The Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC) said it was investigating complaints from six women of sexual offending by former South Yorkshire police officers.

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    National Inquiry into grooming gangs announced. Was obvious this was needed for the govt to properly be able to claim they were taking the issue seriously. Shouldn't have taken them so long, but the right decision

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7872pngj2qo

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    Good call. I think Starmer has done well actually. lots of noise from idiots like musk and lowe, but he's gone with Casey's recommendation.

    I hope the idiots like Lowe sit down and shut up now. But mostly, I hope the ultra radical filth who covered up these events in the first place are exposed and hounded out of society. Young people went through absolute hell, because their lives were deemed as less important than 'community cohesion' . It's a stain upon our country

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
    Good call. I think Starmer has done well actually. lots of noise from idiots like musk and lowe, but he's gone with Casey's recommendation.

    I hope the idiots like Lowe sit down and shut up now. But mostly, I hope the ultra radical filth who covered up these events in the first place are exposed and hounded out of society. Young people went through absolute hell, because their lives were deemed as less important than 'community cohesion' . It's a stain upon our country
    I don't doubt there was a fair bit of that going on but I do also think people in positions of limited authority have a responsibility to themselves and others to act with morality. It consistently annoyed me how much the 'i knew but nobody would have listened to me' excuse has been used after previous scandals, most memorably for me was the Savile stuff. I don't think 'fear of being branded a racist' should be an excuse for not acting.

    The likelihood is that the inquiry itself will be used as a political wedge issue for some time and that itself isn't helpful. I think a lot of people calling for it have a pretty clear idea of what they want it to conclude which sort of defeats the point of it in the first place because if it doesn't agree word for word with their opinion, it will be dragged through the mud as 'another cover up'.

    Hopefully it is left to do it's work well and then accepted by the British public but I won't hold my breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    I don't doubt there was a fair bit of that going on but I do also think people in positions of limited authority have a responsibility to themselves and others to act with morality. It consistently annoyed me how much the 'i knew but nobody would have listened to me' excuse has been used after previous scandals, most memorably for me was the Savile stuff. I don't think 'fear of being branded a racist' should be an excuse for not acting.

    The likelihood is that the inquiry itself will be used as a political wedge issue for some time and that itself isn't helpful. I think a lot of people calling for it have a pretty clear idea of what they want it to conclude which sort of defeats the point of it in the first place because if it doesn't agree word for word with their opinion, it will be dragged through the mud as 'another cover up'.

    Hopefully it is left to do it's work well and then accepted by the British public but I won't hold my breath.
    The Baroness Casey report is due this week and if it recommends a national Inquiry then I cant see how the government can avoid it and in fairness I am sure many in the govt support it too, but certainly not all have.

    Anyone who put young girls lives at risk due to concerns over "appearing racist" should never work in social care again. The inquiry will do its work but as society some reflection as to how such a culture was allowed to flourish is also needed

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