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Thread: The Sinking ship down West

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    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    it's still a very close division, they could easily string a few wins together and get themselves safe
    Yes for sure, it's all to play for, but the momentum currently is downwards for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    it's not really a sinking ship, it's just their business model, they've fairly regularly sold players for decent money at this level (less so recently).

    it's an area we are also now looking do do more in, like selling McGuiness at the start of the season
    Hes 30 this year, not sure they will get stupid money for him. Their business model in the past, not sure so much under this regime, was to cash in on their young star players, or players who had justhad a great season ie Michu, Bony.etc and get top dollar for them. Huw Jenkins was very good in that respect. Think Grimes is past the point of being sold for his optimum value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Hes 30 this year, not sure they will get stupid money for him. Their business model in the past, not sure so much under this regime, was to cash in on their young star players, or players who had justhad a great season ie Michu, Bony.etc and get top dollar for them. Huw Jenkins was very good in that respect. Think Grimes is past the point of being sold for his optimum value.
    Cov will be paying close to 3.5m for Grimes , just the structure of the deal to finalise, hardly a steel IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Hes 30 this year, not sure they will get stupid money for him. Their business model in the past, not sure so much under this regime, was to cash in on their young star players, or players who had justhad a great season ie Michu, Bony.etc and get top dollar for them. Huw Jenkins was very good in that respect. Think Grimes is past the point of being sold for his optimum value.
    yeah they're definitely not doing it as well as they have in the past, I don't think they sold anyone of note last season, so that's probably forcing their hand a bit too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Couldn't think of a ship or boat analogy, Eh Delm....
    I refuse to get drawn in to you lot's pun shenanigans, I am a serious football fan/expert

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    Not really that arsed about what Swansea are doing, but that's surely a massive blow for them, even if he is nearly 30. Especially if he's asked to leave.

    He's absolutely integral to the way they play and obviously a massive character in their dressing room - didn't Luke Williams say earlier this season that he lets him do the team talks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Cov will be paying close to 3.5m for Grimes , just the structure of the deal to finalise, hardly a steel IMHO
    They are presumably still ironing out the deal.

  8. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    They are presumably still ironing out the deal.
    I trust they cleaned it first.

  9. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    They are presumably still ironing out the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Cov will be paying close to 3.5m for Grimes , just the structure of the deal to finalise, hardly a steel IMHO
    3.5m is not stupid money though is it. Its chicken feed in todays football market. To replace Grimes with a younger version they would need to spend easily 2m to get a league 1 player with potential, so hardly any profit to be made from the deal and they are losing arguably their best player. Certainly top 3.

    Not like the days when they were regualrly selling players for north of 15 million. Gylfi went for a reported 40 million. Bony 30m. Ayew 25m,etc,etc,etc.

    Jenkins was the Welsh Daniel Levy. He drove a hard bargain.

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    Im really hoping that theyre unable to pay over the odds salaries to get mercenaries down there anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    3.5m is not stupid money though is it. Its chicken feed in todays football market. To replace Grimes with a younger version they would need to spend easily 2m to get a league 1 player with potential, so hardly any profit to be made from the deal and they are losing arguably their best player. Certainly top 3.

    Not like the days when they were regualrly selling players for north of 15 million. Gylfi went for a reported 40 million. Bony 30m. Ayew 25m,etc,etc,etc.

    Jenkins was the Welsh Daniel Levy. He drove a hard bargain.
    True , Sheffield United looking at Darling, who has refused to sign a new deal as of writing , looks like the club is looking downward and in decline for the first time in decade or more

    Lovely

  13. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    True , Sheffield United looking at Darling, who has refused to sign a new deal as of writing , looks like the club is looking downward and in decline for the first time in decade or more

    Lovely
    Swansea were always pretty good at bringing in replacement players after selling, they would get them up and running quickly, then sell them on at a profit. That's stalled over the past few seasons and it's something they have relied on hugely. They could start to really struggle unless this new lot invest.

  14. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Does he play on the right wing
    Too far right. Won't move into centre field, fires too many shots from a right position.

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    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Swansea City officials have received 'death threats'

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/ce8y6ek2386o

    Oh Bless death threats because we battered them.


    Grimes exit would leave Swans with another hole to fill

    Matt Grimes has played in all but four of Swansea City's 305 league games since relegation from the top flight in 2018.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/swansea-city

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/swansea-city

    Grimes exit, sporting director latest and transfers - just what is going on at Swansea City
    Swansea City's transfer window has been a deeply frustrating and underwhelming one so far

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    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Swansea City officials have received 'death threats'

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/ce8y6ek2386o

    Oh Bless death threats because we battered them.


    Grimes exit would leave Swans with another hole to fill

    Matt Grimes has played in all but four of Swansea City's 305 league games since relegation from the top flight in 2018.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/swansea-city

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/swansea-city
    Cracking they are in a right mess, the fans are going mental.

    Grimes exit, sporting director latest and transfers - just what is going on at Swansea City
    Swansea City's transfer window has been a deeply frustrating and underwhelming one so far

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...atest-30880530

  17. #42

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    There’ll be someone crying on the wireless this weekend I reckon.

  18. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Cov will be paying close to 3.5m for Grimes , just the structure of the deal to finalise, hardly a steel IMHO
    I'm surprised the Blades didn't come in for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead View Post
    Not really that arsed about what Swansea are doing, but that's surely a massive blow for them, even if he is nearly 30. Especially if he's asked to leave.

    He's absolutely integral to the way they play and obviously a massive character in their dressing room - didn't Luke Williams say earlier this season that he lets him do the team talks?
    Think it was the QPR game when they won 3-0 with all of the goals coming in the first half.

    Thought the manager's inappropriate comments about him being linked with the West Brom job were a minor distraction at first, but it seems to have had a devastating impact on them - I may be wrong, but I don't think Grimes leaves if they weren't made.

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    swansea town is falling down :D

    no money for signings, players want out, owners draining the club ! only one way they are going

  21. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Think it was the QPR game when they won 3-0 with all of the goals coming in the first half.

    Thought the manager's inappropriate comments about him being linked with the West Brom job were a minor distraction at first, but it seems to have had a devastating impact on them - I may be wrong, but I don't think Grimes leaves if they weren't made.
    It could just be as simple as that hes been offered a large contract with a big signing on fee and he might think its the best offer for him as he approaches 30

  22. #47

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    So Grimes swims away....

  23. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    So Grimes swims away....
    A case of "you always sink when you're swimming". Terrible shame.

  24. #49

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    Theyll be fine. They always are. Im sure theyll get decent replacements and Grimes is way past his best and Ive never rated Darling. They have a knack of pulling a couple of rabbits out of the hat
    They have constantly harked to our imminent demise which so far hasnt materialised (though it still might) so Im not crowing about their current difficulties

    Though it is very funny

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    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Swansea and Grime always seemed a good match.

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