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Thread: The Sinking ship down West

  1. #51

    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Matt Grimes stats compare to Joe Ralls…

    Matt Grimes>
    Swansea Games: 333
    Goals: 16
    Assists: 33

    Joe Ralls>
    Cardiff Games: 403
    Goals: 34
    Assists: 41

    wish our club captain would get a bit more recognition

  2. #52

    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave St View Post
    swansea town is falling down :D

    no money for signings, players want out, owners draining the club ! only one way they are going
    What about the new owners 20 million investment? Or was that the price the hedge fund charged them for dwindling club

  3. #53

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    4m for a decent championship CM who will be 30 in the summer seems a lot to me

  4. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Grimes is a decent 29 year-old Championship midfielder. Who else would you expect to be interested in him at this stage of his career?
    Who cares? I just commented that it's not a big move. Which it isn't.

  5. #55

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    4m for Grimes is a brilliant price and poor business by Coventry.

    If this was the summer I'd say a brilliant deal by Swansea. However they fail to win in their next few games and they are really in the relegation mix and they may regret letting him go.

  6. #56

    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    Matt Grimes stats compare to Joe Ralls

    Matt Grimes>
    Swansea Games: 333
    Goals: 16
    Assists: 33

    Joe Ralls>
    Cardiff Games: 403
    Goals: 34
    Assists: 41

    wish our club captain would get a bit more recognition
    True words, Moz. Up until we've been able to put Chambers in midfield this season our midfield has always been weaker without Ralls. His record speaks for itself and he has been a fantastic servant of Cardiff City.

    StT.
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  7. #57

    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    Matt Grimes stats compare to Joe Ralls…

    Matt Grimes>
    Swansea Games: 333
    Goals: 16
    Assists: 33

    Joe Ralls>
    Cardiff Games: 403
    Goals: 34
    Assists: 41

    wish our club captain would get a bit more recognition
    Great post , agree entirely and those stats are pretty good

  8. #58

    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    4m for Grimes is a brilliant price and poor business by Coventry.

    If this was the summer I'd say a brilliant deal by Swansea. However they fail to win in their next few games and they are really in the relegation mix and they may regret letting him go.
    Agree with this too, that seems a very excessive price for him but unless they replace him with somebody who is an established championship midfielder it could cause them some serious issues as they have a thin squad already

  9. #59

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
    as they have a thin squad already
    Not when that fat c*nt Roger Freestone was in goals for them

  10. #60

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Not when that fat c*nt Roger Freestone was in goals for them

  11. #61

    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Hopefully they sack their manager and appoint Steven Gerrard.

  12. #62

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    TwentyThreeStone as he was commonly known

  13. #63

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    Wayne Rooney is available

  14. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    Hopefully they sack their manager and appoint Steven Gerrard.

  15. #65

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    I read a remarkable stat last night:

    Since their relegation from the Premier League in 2018, Swansea have played a total of 310 Championship and Championship play-off matches. Matt Grimes has featured in 306 of them (298 starts, 8 sub appearances). He was ever-present in their league starting line-up in 2019/20, 2021/22, 2023/24 and so far this season.

    It's fair to say he's going to be a big loss for the Jacks.

  16. #66

    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    Matt Grimes stats compare to Joe Ralls
    Their respective Championship and play-off appearance stats for the last five and a half seasons (2019/20 to 2024/25):

    Joe Ralls - 160 (+29) appearances

    Matt Grimes - 258 (+3) appearances

    For reference, Callum O'Dowda has made 112 (+34) Championship appearances during the same period.

    Ralls has the edge in terms of goals from 2019/20 onwards. He has 15, while Grimes has 9. However, Joe's goals seem to have dried up in recent seasons. He's scored just 3 in the last three and a half seasons (none so far in 2024/25). Grimes has 7 during that period.

  17. #67

    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I read a remarkable stat last night:

    Since their relegation from the Premier League in 2018, Swansea have played a total of 310 Championship and Championship play-off matches. Matt Grimes has featured in 306 of them (298 starts, 8 sub appearances). He was ever-present in their league starting line-up in 2019/20, 2021/22, 2023/24 and so far this season.

    It's fair to say he's going to be a big loss for the Jacks.
    Those are indeed quite remarkable stats. It's fair to say he's not the kind who tweaks a hamstring or gets laid low by flu etc.

    Who was the last outfield player for us, who was ever-present throughout a season, Whitts maybe?

  18. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    Who was the last outfield player for us, who was ever-present throughout a season, Whitts maybe?
    It was in fact as recently as last season - the warrior that is Dimitrios Goutas.

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    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quite a loss for them indeed, lets hope it's enough to drag them down.


    Matt Grimes this season: (Championship rank)

    ▪️Touches: 2887 (1st)
    ▪️Touches in the middle third: 1765 (1st)
    ▪️Carrying distance: 8855 yards (1st)
    ▪️Carries: 1818 (1st)
    ▪️Passes received: 2176 (1st)
    ▪️Passes completed: 2349 (1st)
    ▪️Passes into the final third: 248 (1st)

    Not sure how reliable the source is.

    https://x.com/JLA_FC/status/18845820...peats-again%2F

  20. #70

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    It was in fact as recently as last season - the warrior that is Dimitrios Goutas.

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    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Quite a loss for them indeed, lets hope it's enough to drag them down.


    Matt Grimes this season: (Championship rank)

    ▪️Touches: 2887 (1st)
    ▪️Touches in the middle third: 1765 (1st)
    ▪️Carrying distance: 8855 yards (1st)
    ▪️Carries: 1818 (1st)
    ▪️Passes received: 2176 (1st)
    ▪️Passes completed: 2349 (1st)
    ▪️Passes into the final third: 248 (1st)

    Not sure how reliable the source is.

    https://x.com/JLA_FC/status/18845820...peats-again%2F
    https://www.dai-sport.com/matt-grime...repeats-again/

  22. #72

    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Quite a loss for them indeed, lets hope it's enough to drag them down.


    Matt Grimes this season: (Championship rank)

    ▪️Touches: 2887 (1st)
    ▪️Touches in the middle third: 1765 (1st)
    ▪️Carrying distance: 8855 yards (1st)
    ▪️Carries: 1818 (1st)
    ▪️Passes received: 2176 (1st)
    ▪️Passes completed: 2349 (1st)
    ▪️Passes into the final third: 248 (1st)

    Not sure how reliable the source is.

    https://x.com/JLA_FC/status/18845820...peats-again%2F
    sometimes a statistic tells you more about the playing style of the team than it does about the player.

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    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    sometimes a statistic tells you more about the playing style of the team than it does about the player.
    True but is shows everything up to now, goes through him.

  24. #74

    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    True but is shows everything up to now, goes through him.
    Thats a fair point.
    It'll be interesting who they look to replace him with

    I guess in the short term its Allen and Franco with Ollie Cooper ahead of them, which isn't a total disaster, as I gather that Allen has been generally better than he was against us

  25. #75

    Re: The Sinking ship down West

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Their respective Championship and play-off appearance stats for the last five and a half seasons (2019/20 to 2024/25):

    Joe Ralls - 160 (+29) appearances

    Matt Grimes - 258 (+3) appearances

    For reference, Callum O'Dowda has made 112 (+34) Championship appearances during the same period.

    Ralls has the edge in terms of goals from 2019/20 onwards. He has 15, while Grimes has 9. However, Joe's goals seem to have dried up in recent seasons. He's scored just 3 in the last three and a half seasons (none so far in 2024/25). Grimes has 7 during that period.
    Ralls has been a little deeper and less all action over the last few years, no surprise really considering his injury record

    In my opinion a good Championship player who is unfairly maligned by some fans

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