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Thread: The Donald Trump thread

  1. #9876

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    So, what’s he done for the ordinary American man and woman?l
    You will have to ask them, but they voted him in so there is clearly something there

  2. #9877

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    So the Democrats being hopeless excuses all of Trump’s excesses?
    No of course not. But it has created some easy wins for him.

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Has USAID has been funding everyone's favourite propaganda channels all around the world?
    Fox News? Unlikely.

  4. #9879

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Fox News? Unlikely.
    I have prior immunity.

  5. #9880

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Has USAID has been funding everyone's favourite propaganda channels all around the world?
    some people calling this money laundering i,m sure DOGE will get to the bottom of it

    This is extremely dangerous to our democracy


  6. #9881

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    some people calling this money laundering i,m sure DOGE will get to the bottom of it

    This is extremely dangerous to our democracy
    6,000 journalists and 700 newsrooms received USAID money?

    It's a wonder all of them parrot the same news. pic.twitter.com/QEOmcX18kX
    — Clayton Morris (@ClaytonMorris) February 6, 2025
    They also received the narrative alongside the money, while Lardy & Cyril remained totally oblivious

  7. #9882

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    You will have to ask them, but they voted him in so there is clearly something there
    In other words, you can’t think of anything, neither can I.

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    About time we got back to discussing money laundering in the Donald Trump thread. Cheers, Mozzer.

    Now to join the dots: Florida real estate deals. Inflated values. Russian oligarchs. Cash injection for failing Trump businesses. Totally legal or a swamp of fraud and corruption? Hmmmm….

  9. #9884

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    In other words, you can’t think of anything, neither can I.
    I've never seen so many fascists in one room!


  10. #9885

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I've never seen so many fascists in one room!

    And if that’s the best you can come up with, you can’t think of anything either.

  11. #9886

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    And if that’s the best you can come up with, you can’t think of anything either.

  12. #9887

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    And still you can’t.

  13. #9888

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    And still you can’t.
    I'm just here for the show

  14. #9889

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    In other words, you can’t think of anything, neither can I.
    But it really is a question for American people isn't it? They are the ones to have judged the last four years and the opening two and a half weeks (yep it's only been that!) of his presidency.

    On that, more people have a favourable opinion than not.
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com.../donald-trump/

    There is no real economic data out, so can't really judge that.

    I should imagine views are mixed, but I would bet most like this

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo

    And despite his ways I should imagine many welcome the bids to stem the tide of Fentanyl given it kills 70,000 odd Americans a year.

    There will be things they don't like too and it's all too early to see if any of it works.

    But again, this idea that we have to have a view on him that is all good or all bad is just daft

  15. #9890

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    But it really is a question for American people isn't it? They are the ones to have judged the last four years and the opening two and a half weeks (yep it's only been that!) of his presidency.

    On that, more people have a favourable opinion than not.
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com.../donald-trump/

    There is no real economic data out, so can't really judge that.

    I should imagine views are mixed, but I would bet most like this

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo

    And despite his ways I should imagine many welcome the bids to stem the tide of Fentanyl given it kills 70,000 odd Americans a year.

    There will be things they don't like too and it's all too early to see if any of it works.

    But again, this idea that we have to have a view on him that is all good or all bad is just daft
    I guess in your World the same could have been said of Hitler, Idi Amin, Pol Pot and Hannibal Lecter!

  16. #9891

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    I guess in your World the same could have been said of Hitler, Idi Amin, Pol Pot and Hannibal Lecter!
    No, that's silly Ducky.

  17. #9892

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    No, that's silly Ducky.
    Hardly Sweetkins, it's your weird view

  18. #9893

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Hardly Sweetkins, it's your weird view
    God bless CCMB eh, where pointing out an opinion poll is weird and comparing someone to mass murdering maniacs is normal 😅

  19. #9894

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    God bless CCMB eh, where pointing out an opinion poll is weird and comparing someone to mass murdering maniacs is normal 😅
    If it makes you sleep at night keep so be it

  20. #9895

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    If it makes you sleep at night keep so be it
    Tbf it is a fairly boring poll.

  21. #9896

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    But it really is a question for American people isn't it? They are the ones to have judged the last four years and the opening two and a half weeks (yep it's only been that!) of his presidency.

    On that, more people have a favourable opinion than not.
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com.../donald-trump/

    There is no real economic data out, so can't really judge that.

    I should imagine views are mixed, but I would bet most like this

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo

    And despite his ways I should imagine many welcome the bids to stem the tide of Fentanyl given it kills 70,000 odd Americans a year.

    There will be things they don't like too and it's all too early to see if any of it works.

    But again, this idea that we have to have a view on him that is all good or all bad is just daft
    You’ve changed your tune because you started this strand of the thread when you asserted that Trump really does care for his base who, we’re told, include very many of the downtrodden working class - all I’m doing is asking what has he done for them, not just in his second term, but his first one as well?

  22. #9897

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I'm just here for the show
    Says the man who has posted more on this thread than anyone else.

  23. #9898

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Says the man who has posted more on this thread than anyone else.
    I felt obliged to correct the record

  24. #9899

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    You’ve changed your tune because you started this strand of the thread when you asserted that Trump really does care for his base who, we’re told, include very many of the downtrodden working class - all I’m doing is asking what has he done for them, not just in his second term, but his first one as well?
    Again, it really is up to them, not you or I. There is plenty you can read up on it.

    But not withstanding COVID, I gather the economy did alright, wasn't hit by high inflation etc. Theyno doubt like his cultural arguments, perhaps they feel safer, like the focus on the stronger borders etc.

    I don't think when you look at it Trump has done that great. But people were pissed with Biden and Trump offered an optimistic vision for many.

    Have to see how he does won't we!

  25. #9900

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    About time we got back to discussing money laundering in the Donald Trump thread. Cheers, Mozzer.

    Now to join the dots: Florida real estate deals. Inflated values. Russian oligarchs. Cash injection for failing Trump businesses. Totally legal or a swamp of fraud and corruption? Hmmmm….
    wow talk about changing the subject !

    The USA taxpayers were being taken for a ride . Now DOGE are after the Education department and even the pentagon

    Trump now revokes Biden's security clearance with immediate effect mind you i don't agree with that

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