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Thread: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

  1. #176

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    This was world wide news last week after the white house press secretary announcing news organisations receiving money from USAID

    It has been claimed some outlets have received the following

    POLITICO: $34.3M
    NY TIMES: $50M
    ASSOCIATED PRESS: $19.5M
    REUTERS: $9M
    $220,000 from the Department of State just last year.
    BBC: British Government TV received $3.3M

    The BBC response to this

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaaction/pr...lease/4-feb-25
    Oh no , not another conspiracy theory that is true

  2. #177

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Oh no , not another conspiracy theory that is true
    Imagine that, victims of propaganda not knowing they were victims of propaganda. It explains a lot though!

  3. #178

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Oh no , not another conspiracy theory that is true
    except it's not true - the BBC didn't receive USAID money.
    a charity that the BBC runs called BBC media action received .obey from USAID. it has nothing to do with the BBCs budget.

    the charity is set up to champion press freedom in parts of the world where there is none. and as such is probably a good means of extending soft power of the west.

  4. #179

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    except it's not true - the BBC didn't receive USAID money.
    a charity that the BBC runs called BBC media action received .obey from USAID. it has nothing to do with the BBCs budget.

    the charity is set up to champion press freedom in parts of the world where there is none. and as such is probably a good means of extending soft power of the west.
    What part of the world? Which journalists? Can you link us to some of their articles, so that we can examine their journalism?

  5. #180

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    This was world wide news last week after the white house press secretary announcing news organisations receiving money from USAID

    It has been claimed some outlets have received the following

    POLITICO: $34.3M
    NY TIMES: $50M
    ASSOCIATED PRESS: $19.5M
    REUTERS: $9M
    $220,000 from the Department of State just last year.
    BBC: British Government TV received $3.3M

    The BBC response to this

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaaction/pr...lease/4-feb-25
    Thanks for some clarification on Gluey’s cryptic clue, but we’re back in what constitutes a fact territory again aren’t we. I’ll need plenty of convincing before I accept anything this White House, including “saviour of democracy” Musk, says as fact.

    At the very least, there are two sides to this argument, so here is something from the page you linked to counter the Trump regime’s words.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaaction/pr...ishop-feb-2025

    The differing standards for what is a fact (it depends completely on which “side”the person saying it is on) is a consistent strand through the “independent thinkers’” postings on here.

  6. #181

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    President Zelensky wants to form a European army to fight against Russia on the Ukraine battlefield.


  7. #182

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    except it's not true - the BBC didn't receive USAID money.
    a charity that the BBC runs called BBC media action received .obey from USAID. it has nothing to do with the BBCs budget.

    the charity is set up to champion press freedom in parts of the world where there is none. and as such is probably a good means of extending soft power of the west.
    IMG_4914.jpg

    Just look through funding contributions made to the BBC in the last 5 years tells you all need to know.


    It’s a really hard gig on here but it’s expected

  8. #183

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    lets get back to basics

    What is the purpose of USAID ? The U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) is the principal U.S. agency to extend assistance to countries recovering from disaster, trying to escape poverty, and engaging in democratic reforms

    to me that's a worthwhile exercise but why does it gave money to news outlets raises one's eyebrow . just doing a bit of digging and to put it into another context

    USAID programs funds US interest media in more than 30 countries

    The agency funds at least 6,200 journalists, 707 “news outlets” and 279 media-sector “civil society organizations . The 2025 foreign aid budget included $268 , 376,000 allocated to congress to support independent media

    that type of money should go to helping poverty around the world no wonder DOGE is making this top of there shopping list !

  9. #184

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    IMG_4914.jpg

    Just look through funding contributions made to the BBC in the last 5 years tells you all need to know.


    It’s a really hard gig on here but it’s expected
    funding contributions for the BBC, or from BBC media action, a charity that they run?

  10. #185

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    This is exactly how the MAGA movement started.

  11. #186

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    funding contributions for the BBC, or from BBC media action, a charity that they run?
    The BBC claims to be editorially independent, but they receive funding from the British government, They received millions in funding from Bill Gates, they have received funding from USAID.They are not independent, they are paid propagandists. Their election coverage was hardly independent either neither was their Covid response.

    What’s not to like ��

  12. #187

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    The BBC claims to be editorially independent, but they receive funding from the British government, They received millions in funding from Bill Gates, they have received funding from USAID.They are not independent, they are paid propagandists. Their election coverage was hardly independent either neither was their Covid response.

    What’s not to like ��
    do you understand the difference between the BBC and the charity BBC media action?

  13. #188

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    do you understand the difference between the BBC and the charity BBC media action?
    Yes I do, do you understand that the BBC is not impartial and losing nearly 50,000 licence payers a month ?

    I agree that article pivots somewhat, however do you not agree that it doesn’t receive funding from bill gates , the government and the like ?

    Do you not agree that the fact checker Marianna Spring lied on her CV ?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...on-lied-on-cv/

  14. #189

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Yes I do, do you understand that the BBC is not impartial and losing nearly 50,000 licence payers a month ?

    I agree that article pivots somewhat, however do you not agree that it doesn’t receive funding from bill gates , the government and the like ?

    Do you not agree that the fact checker Marianna Spring lied on her CV ?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...on-lied-on-cv/
    some horrible double negatives there.

    for clarity, are you saying that bill gates and USAID have madi contributions to the BBC budget or made contributions to the BBC run charity BBC media action?

  15. #190

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    some horrible double negatives there.

    for clarity, are you saying that bill gates and USAID have madi contributions to the BBC budget or made contributions to the BBC run charity BBC media action?
    They have made numerous contributions to the BBC “charities” but don’t you think that may influence their decision making process in other areas , as that’s usually what happens in charity events and programmes. You’re not that naive are you ?

    Don’t you do business events etc. How many times was Bill Gates on BbC Tv and media during Covid ? As far as I know he is as qualified as me or you or anyone else regarding vaccines and science yet his name was mentioned on a daily basis.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaaction/ab...0many%20others.

  16. #191

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    https://x.com/citizenfreepres/status...LhmySD2aRt-GNg

    This may explain it better for you as you’re not grasping the details very well

  17. #192

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    They have made numerous contributions to the BBC “charities” but don’t you think that may influence their decision making process in other areas , as that’s usually what happens in charity events and programmes. You’re not that naive are you ?

    Don’t you do business events etc. How many times was Bill Gates on BbC Tv and media during Covid ? As far as I know he is as qualified as me or you or anyone else regarding vaccines and science yet his name was mentioned on a daily basis.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaaction/ab...0many%20others.
    no I don't think that making a donation to BBC media action charity has any influence on the editorial content of the BBC itself. they are entirely separate budgets and the BBC media action has a tiny budget compared to the BBC.

    if you can show otherwise then please do as it would be a huge scandal and you would probably win a pullizer prize.

  18. #193

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    no I don't think that making a donation to BBC media action charity has any influence on the editorial content of the BBC itself. they are entirely separate budgets and the BBC media action has a tiny budget compared to the BBC.

    if you can show otherwise then please do as it would be a huge scandal and you would probably win a pullizer prize.
    I dont think its a huge scandal or a surprise, and the link I posted pretty much sums up what most people think

  19. #194

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    IMG_4914.jpg

    Just look through funding contributions made to the BBC in the last 5 years tells you all need to know.


    Its a really hard gig on here but its expected
    The money distribution network is very complex as the intention is to hide the identity of the final payment destination, which is sometimes themselves! Rjk doesn't know what he is talking about, as he himself is a regular victim of propaganda. For example, a news source will say a certain organisation isn't doing anything wrong , and then Rjk will be on here quoting that very same news source as proof that said organisation isn't doing anything wrong. Rinse & repeat

  20. #195

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Whatever people think about funding media organisations abroad, you can certainly see why American voters would be able to think of far better things to spend it on.

  21. #196

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The money distribution network is very complex as the intention is to hide the identity of the final payment destination, which is sometimes themselves! Rjk doesn't know what he is talking about, as he himself is a regular victim of propaganda. For example, a news source will say a certain organisation isn't doing anything wrong , and then Rjk will be on here quoting that very same news source as proof that said organisation isn't doing anything wrong. Rinse & repeat
    it's not that complex, just a bunch of "independent thinkers" have got very exercised about BBC funding since Elon Musk erroneously posted on twitter that USAID funds the BBC.

  22. #197

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    IMG_4914.jpg

    Just look through funding contributions made to the BBC in the last 5 years tells you all need to know.


    It’s a really hard gig on here but it’s expected
    please do provide a link that shows the BBC funding for the last 5 years, and why it is problematic

  23. #198

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    it's not that complex, just a bunch of "independent thinkers" have got very exercised about BBC funding since Elon Musk erroneously posted on twitter that USAID funds the BBC.
    So you know more than the computer scientists who are actually running the DOGE algorithms? Is there no end to your talent?

  24. #199

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    please do provide a link that shows the BBC funding for the last 5 years, and why it is problematic
    I think thats something you could do quite easily.

    Why do you think the corporation is losing 50,000 license payers a month and its being overlooked by new audiences?

  25. #200

    Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    I think that’s something you could do quite easily.

    Why do you think the corporation is losing 50,000 license payers a month and it’s being overlooked by new audiences?
    if It's that easy then please send me the link

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