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Yes.Originally Posted by olderblue
Definitely not. 100% no.
It'll happen, though. I'm already sure of it.
This line gets trotted out every 5 minutes on this board, but what exactly is that based on?
In Mick McCarthy's last season, he left us 21st in the league, a club record 8 defeats in a row, in which we scored 1 goal. That's even worse than Bulut. Not to mention the whole '5 centre backs at home' debacle.
Under Sabri Lamouchi, the only reason we stayed up was because of Reading's point deduction.
They were both experienced Championship managers.
It's not about how many games someone has managed, it's about their ability to change the culture of mediocrity that has enveloped the club for a good three years now, from top to bottom.
In that regard, I don't think Riza is doing any better or any worse with this team than someone who's managed 500 games would.
Have to say not only were Plymouth one of the worst teams I've seen, they were also one of the stupidest. It looked as if Alnwick had snapped his hamstring with 10 minutes left, not once did they drop a cross on top of him or close down our defenders when he rolled it out (as he couldn't kick!)
I thought this yesterday, it was genuinely mind boggling. They deserve to get relegated for that alone.
I'd love to know who people think are underperforming? Who's playing way below their level?
Tuerto was texting me about this during the game. It was incredible really.
There's one bit where Alnwick is literally hopping as he can barely stand up, and then COD pulls a bit wider, nobody goes with him and Alnwick can roll him the ball. Incredibly thick.
Couldn't believe what I was seeing, Plymouth fans must have been fuming
They had 14ish minutes against a keeper with 1 leg and didn't even attempt a pot shot from distance
It wasn't anywhere near 14 minutes was it? Alnwick did his hamstring about 96 minutes and there was a few mins delay then 5 minutes to survive when he got back up. Amazing they didn't just shoot from distance at him though
Neither do I .
but of course there is a magic manager out there who would manage the players we have disposed of over the years and we would be top of the Premier League .
With a decent hierarchy of course.............................
According to the BBC live text, Alnwick went down in the 95th minute and play resumed on 98 minutes. The game eventually ended in the 105th minute.
That's your opinion and you're fully entitled to it. Just as those who think the opposite are entitled to their opinions.
Absolutely . And its just as important to remind everyone of our opinions on a daily basisThat's your opinion and you're fully entitled to it. Just as those who think the opposite are entitled to their opinions.
Would you say that Alnwick was playing injured for for 8 minutes then or was it 7 ?
I think its important we get these things right
I thought he went down before stoppage time, must have misremembered
Indeed. However, you could probably do so without writing childish stuff like: "there is a magic manager out there who would manage the players we have disposed of over the years and we would be top of the Premier League..."
But hey, sanctimony can take many forms.
I'm not saying we would be much better off but I reckon an experienced decent managerial set up would have this squad safe.
As it is it's going to be really tight and if one of the bottom 3 goes on a run we are probably fecked. Too many winning positions thrown away , poor starts in games. Strange subs and selections.
I'm sure Bulut would have relegated us. Riza and the current set up may well do. I think Rowett as an example would have enough to get us reasonably away from a scrap.
Facing a relegation battle I think its only our board who would leave a relegation battle to our novice set up.
Mucho apologies . sanctimony is a terrible quality .Indeed. However, you could probably do so without writing childish stuff like: "there is a magic manager out there who would manage the players we have disposed of over the years and we would be top of the Premier League..."
But hey, sanctimony can take many forms.
Being childish is worse.
Luckily I haven't been described as a pedant yet , that would be the full house.
Top half team last season mind, people try to change history, but we got a good start and finished top half. The football was a lot harder to watch mind.
I think an experienced Manager like Rowett or Mowbray, would have us safe by now, and another six points more at the very least, Oxford squad is much weaker than ours.
In Bulut's last 38 games, his PPG was 1.05. That is lower than Hudson's. That's an enormous sample size.
Over a season, 12th that's where they finished, top half with a weaker squad. He was crap too, imagine what a top Manager could do.
I'd love a top-half finish this season, but it's never going to happen, we had tough fixtures right at the start, with a terrible run and loss of confidence, and never got far away from the relegation zone.
I didn't want Bulut sacked at the end of the season because I suspected they'd appoint a trainee YTS Manager again and I was right.
The squad was not weaker, it was far stronger. For a start, we had 3 Championship standard centre halves the entire time while Grant walks in our current side.
Disagree with that, but that is fine as it's your opinion.
We are weaker at the back but much stronger in midfield and upfront, and we have much stronger bench, partly due to blooding youngsters at the end of last season.
We aren't stronger in midfield and attack though, are we? We've lost Grant and Bowler had more goals and assists than any other winger we have this season. We signed Salech in Jan, so for 5 months, we were weaker going forwards as well
What youngsters got blooded last season? Ashford with a handful of games?
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