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  1. #126

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    I dont mind admitting to tears. Shouting at them TV, dog also thinks Im mental. Tactically brilliant. Still has the explosive power.
    Tynwald day Friday as well.
    TV using wrong flag again
    That was special. I was screaming like a madman and then when he won i blubbed like a baby. Must have been even more special for you.

  2. #127

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    I really didn't think he'd do it at all. 2 hard days of climbing to start, then not looking his best yesterday, to have everything go perfectly today was unexpected and brilliant. The coverage from the overhead shots of the finish was superb.

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    He was pedalling so hard his chain came off s he crossed the line
    If he'd had to go another 5 yards he'd have lost it!!

  4. #129

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    He was pedalling so hard his chain came off s he crossed the line
    If he'd had to go another 5 yards he'd have lost it!!
    His chain came off because he stopped pedalling. If the line was 5 yards further, he would have stopped pedalling 5 yards further down the road.

  5. #130

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    I really didn't think he'd do it at all. 2 hard days of climbing to start, then not looking his best yesterday, to have everything go perfectly today was unexpected and brilliant. The coverage from the overhead shots of the finish was superb.
    I guess the two days of climbing put all the sprinters out of their stride a bit but Cav was well prepared. It seemed bizarre for Astana to send him to the Tour de Suisse in June but it looks like a masterstroke now.

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ast...climbing-form/

    I agree about the overhead shots. It looked like Cav was boxed in a couple of times but the way he navigated himself out of it was brilliant. He's had great lead-out trains throughout his career but when he's had to rely on his instincts and duck and dive, pick up the right wheel, spot a gap etc, there's been no one better either.

  6. #131

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loramski View Post
    I guess the two days of climbing put all the sprinters out of their stride a bit but Cav was well prepared. It seemed bizarre for Astana to send him to the Tour de Suisse in June but it looks like a masterstroke now.

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ast...climbing-form/
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    It’s a hell of a commitment from Astana & Mark Renshaw. They’ve shown faith and he’s paid them back. Like City being prepared to lose all other games in order to beat the Jacks

  7. #132

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    Its a hell of a commitment from Astana & Mark Renshaw. Theyve shown faith and hes paid them back. Like City being prepared to lose all other games in order to beat the Jacks
    In a way, yes. Mind you, a few muppets on here would probably be happy if we finished the season on 6 points as long as we did the double over Swansea but I think most of us would see it as a disappointing campaign. I can't think of a suitable analogy, cycling is unusual in the goals that teams and riders aspire to. To have a whole team set up around 'Project 35', where everyone from the backers to the riders to the backroom staff is fully committed to one man winning one stage of one race must be unique in any sport.

  8. #133

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    I watched Saturday's stage in Colombey-Les-Deux-glises and about 100 metres from the finishing line. It was all over in a blur but in the hours preceding the bunch finish was filled with receiving freebies handed out by the ton by the sponsors: I seem to have three different bucket hats, three cheap replicas of cycling caps, keyrings, a screwdriver, a postcard, a wedge of cheese, a packet of mini-salamis, a can of a soda drink and probably other bits of promotional detritus still in my rucksack.

  9. #134

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    Shame there wasn't more at stake today, but what a 3 weeks for Pogacar.

  10. #135

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    Shame there wasn't more at stake today, but what a 3 weeks for Pogacar.
    Incredible. There was a lack of jeopardy though, especially as Cav got his win in early, and the race suffered for that. The fact this thread lay dormant for a couple of weeks says a lot about the procession it became.

    I like Pogacar though. So many positives about the way he rides and he always seems respectful to other riders, top man. He's just too good for now. He took a day off yesterday, let the break go, ambled along in the peloton and still ended up winning the stage. Ridiculous.

  11. #136

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    I thoroughly enjoyed watching the race and switched between ITV and Eurosport - both very listenable.

    I'll probably be crucified for raising this, but I've wondered about dope testing during this Tour. I presume it still happens, but I've not heard a peep about any results - yet the performances of so many riders has been incredible, perhaps a little too incredible and consistent.

  12. #137

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    I have the same feeling to be honest. As great a spectacle and enjoyable as it is it seems like we are firmly back in the days where these outputs just cant be real. As well as the fact that you have 2-3 guys who have basically attacked up mountains for a week straight - one of whom wasnt fit enough to do any preparation for the tour at all. Carapaz is one of the best climbers in the world who grew up at altitude and on the penultimate stage the top 3 managed to overhaul a deficit of minutes like they were racing on the flat.

    Unofficially, both Vingegaard and Pogacar had the best climbing numbers this tour, the kind we hadnt seen since the days of Pantani and we all know how clean that era was. Either human anatomy and training has come so far in the last 5-10 years or its the other outcome.

  13. #138

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I watched Saturday's stage in Colombey-Les-Deux-glises and about 100 metres from the finishing line. It was all over in a blur but in the hours preceding the bunch finish was filled with receiving freebies handed out by the ton by the sponsors: I seem to have three different bucket hats, three cheap replicas of cycling caps, keyrings, a screwdriver, a postcard, a wedge of cheese, a packet of mini-salamis, a can of a soda drink and probably other bits of promotional detritus still in my rucksack.
    do you ever go home?

    are you on the run from the authorities?

  14. #139

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    do you ever go home?

    are you on the run from the authorities?
    I suffer from 'Fernweh'.

    By the way, en route I spoke the name of the village concerned into Google maps i.e. 'Colombey-Les-Deux-glises' and it registered in the search field as 'Colin Bailey disease'.

  15. #140

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  16. #141

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Did you notice that time and again the commentators remarked on the advances that had been made in nutition and how riders had balanced weight loss and power loss - which all contributed to the overall improvement in performance and times.

    Well, I just don't believe that is possible. The gains are too great. I've time-trialled in fields that have included Olympic champions. I've concentrated on shaving off seconds of my times with modifications of my bike, gym work and static training. But you can only go so far - there comes a point when you've more or less reached your zenith. And the only way I could noticeably better my times was by taking creatine. I was riding away from my training partners for a week or too. Then I made a conscious decision that I didn't want to improve by that method,which was cheating.

    It used to be that if an athlete suddenly achieved substantially better performances, it was automatically assumed that they had doped. Has anything changed? Or has masking doping become so sophisticated it can't be detected? And it's not in the interests of TV or commentators or the cycling press to even mention drugs, cos it would be shooting themselves on the whatever.

    Nah. I'm cynical, and have been after wondering at many terrific rides only to have my wonderment dashed when it was revealed that they were assisted. It was only two years ago that this article was written: https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-...own-in-cycling
    Note the countries involved......

  17. #142

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    It's understandable to have doubts given cycling's history. This article touches on it a bit.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-b2583552.html

  18. #143

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    It would be a great shame if any of the current top riders are doping.
    What has changed massively since doping was so common is the technology and science. Numerous small gains have been achieved in the design and materials used in the bikes, fabric used in clothing, bike fitting, nutrition and fuelling a ride, team strategy and tactics, it's no wonder that performances have increased.

  19. #144

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    Saw a statistic this morning that based on output and performance Derek Gee in 9th would have won the 2019 tour by 10+ minutes.

    I find it almost impossible that all those small gains have led to that kind of an increase. Especially as it seems quite unlikely that Ineos/Sky were clean during those days as well.

  20. #145

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    I had a horrible dream last night. A mate asked me along for a cycling holiday in Spain but when I got there it turned out he'd entered me in the Vuelta. I should've twigged it was a dream early on because I haven't got any mates but it was scarily real. I woke up with cramp halfway through Stage 1.

    Mental race, ridiculous.

  21. #146

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    Geraint Thomas (or G, as Divine Wright likes to call him) is retiring at the end of the season. The Tour of Britain will be his last race (possibly finishing in Cardiff) then he'll move back here with his family. Good move, what's Monaco got that we haven't?

  22. #147

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loramski View Post
    Geraint Thomas (or G, as Divine Wright likes to call him) is retiring at the end of the season. The Tour of Britain will be his last race (possibly finishing in Cardiff) then he'll move back here with his family. Good move, what's Monaco got that we haven't?
    Would be great if he did end his career in Cardiff.

  23. #148

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loramski View Post
    Geraint Thomas (or G, as Divine Wright likes to call him) is retiring at the end of the season. The Tour of Britain will be his last race (possibly finishing in Cardiff) then he'll move back here with his family. Good move, what's Monaco got that we haven't?
    Both have football teams that play in a different country's league, so it must be something else.
    Think it's a bit of wishful thinking for the race to end here. Would be great if it did though.

  24. #149

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    In todays expanding Cardiff, where would you settle if you were him with a family, and money not a problem?
    The Vale?
    Whitchurch?

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