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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Zelensky has to accept that putin has grabbed and will keep what he has

    I think then a multi agency force or weaponry of some kind .....even if it's just lightweight .....has to happen

    If Russia really wants to take over Ukraine , the baltic states etc etc then unless there is a huge army or the threat of a nuclear strike facing him then let's be honest .....he's going to eventually do it

    I think starmer is doing his best in a very difficult situation

    I would imagine behind all this hand shaking and greetings zelensky is having to accept that putin has unfortunately over powered him and always will
    Yeah just give up on what’s lost, let Putin think he’s won as this is what they thrive off. But he can’t incur on anymore land….need peacekeepers there I’m sure but at least the blood shed ends. Having the yanks getting what they really want out of it will also bring further security…

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    I think Europe still holds the cards in terms of hurting Russia financially. Even with a trade deal, the US aren't really going to be buying russian gas and oil, they have enough of their own. The Chinese and Indians will have it like they do now, but at a very steep discount. The damage done to Russia financially if we continue to not buy their energy is huge and will start biting them.

    Saw up thread discussions about life expired equipment being sent out. I know that was certainly the case with the Germans at the start, can remember stories of warehouses that needed breathing apparatus to enter because the wooden boxes containing the equipment was so mouldy, a lot of it was old east German stuff I believe. Not sure on the age of the American kit, but it seems like trump wants the Ukrainians to be the first to ever pay 'book price' for large orders, and then add on 50% plus. I hope the Ukrainians call his bluff, do deals to pay everyone else back, and tell the yanks to shove it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canton Kev View Post
    They might have the same social problems we do, but they’ve also decided to dedicate just short of a Trillion Dollars to their military spending despite being bordered by 2 allies and sitting ~5000 miles away from their main “enemies”.
    Alaska is 53 miles away from the Russia mainland and the US Little Diomede Island is 2.4 miles away from the Russian Big Diomede Island, so they could literally have a battle using peashooters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    You should have this pained on the side of your house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    I actually agree with your post. The very best a United Europe could have done years ago was to have built-up a strong European Military and have abandoned the USA years ago by treating it as a Geopolitical threat to be kept at arms distance.
    Dorcus, you need to clear your PMs to receive the one Ive sent you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Dorcus, you need to clear your PMs to receive the one Ive sent you.
    Ok cheers Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You should have this pained on the side of your house.
    Nah, I don't need it.

    On the other hand you appear to need regular reminders.... have you got a blank gable end?

    You could look at it every day from the top of your fence!


    Trump Train fence.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Nah, I don't need it.

    On the other hand you appear to need regular reminders.... have you got a blank gable end?

    You could look at it every day from the top of your fence!


    Trump Train fence.jpg
    You'd never find me on any type of train, real or imagined!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Alaska is 53 miles away from the Russia mainland and the US Little Diomede Island is 2.4 miles away from the Russian Big Diomede Island, so they could literally have a battle using peashooters!
    Empty land doesn’t typically tend to start invasions. But if the few thousand people in Lavrentiya and Provideniya did fancy their chances against the townsfolk of Nome, I don’t think the Americans would need to send an aircraft carrier along.

    For settlements bigger than Rhiwbina, there’s about 2,500 miles between Anchorage and Yakutsk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canton Kev View Post
    Empty land doesn’t typically tend to start invasions. But if the few thousand people in Lavrentiya and Provideniya did fancy their chances against the townsfolk of Nome, I don’t think the Americans would need to send an aircraft carrier along.

    For settlements bigger than Rhiwbina, there’s about 2,500 miles between Anchorage and Yakutsk.
    Don't forget all that raw earth under the ground, people are willing to pay a high price for those rare minerals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Ok cheers Bob
    PM fwiends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Don't forget all that raw earth under the ground, people are willing to pay a high price for those rare minerals.
    just read about the 100 year resource deal with the Starmer UK government signed by Zelensky dated on January 17

    as you say these minerals appear to be in hot demand

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    Just seen that panorama documentary on the last few days of nonsense

    And what a load of nonsense from Trump and his crew it was

    I am absolutely astounded that anyone over here can admire that xxxx and the way he behaves

    It was way too short and hopefully there will be more decent programmes on it all

    I am sure there will be trump t shirt wearing clowns throwing stuff at the tv and saying the BBC is left wing and biased but fck em

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    The TYT is a great show Stevo 👍

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    Can anyone remember the time when people tried to claim that the Trump-Putin love-in was nothing but a hoax!

    All MAGA speak and failure of critical faculties, true - but that time really happened. Incredible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Can anyone remember the time when people tried to claim that the Trump-Putin love-in was nothing but a hoax!

    All MAGA speak and failure of critical faculties, true - but that time really happened. Incredible!
    Did they do tongues?

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    Toes more like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Can anyone remember the time when people tried to claim that the Trump-Putin love-in was nothing but a hoax!

    All MAGA speak and failure of critical faculties, true - but that time really happened. Incredible!
    There wasn’t any collusion though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    There wasn’t any collusion though.
    It's comedy gold!

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    I’m so disheartened and disgusted by the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    Toes more like.
    Judging by Donnie's tiny hands he couldn't satisfy a brute like Putin

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    Just some random thoughts. It's a bit late and I'm tired so please forgive poor grammar here and there!

    Trump, Vance and Musk: what an obnoxious trio.

    Tariffs: sounds great from Trump’s point of view but, if the USA is like the UK, where practically every non-food item we buy comes from China it won’t be long before the average Joe in the USA finds that his cost of living is going to go up even further. If Trump thinks that these same goods can be manufactured in the USA, then said Joe is going to be even more upset, as there is no way they can compete on cost grounds due to the higher cost of labour.

    Ukraine: what a mess. Misinformation and downright lies from Trump et al. The minerals blackmail saga. Europe surely unable to fill the missing billions contributed by the USA and even with the money, unable to manufacture weapons on the scale required in such a short time. Putin presumably unable to believe his luck. He looks certain to keep the parts of the country that have been seized and will probably embolden him to have a pop elsewhere. Can’t see how a few hundred American mining engineers are the equivalent of a peace-keeping force. Presumably they wouldn’t have access to the Russian controlled part of Ukraine anyway as Putin would want to get his grubby hands on whatever minerals are in that area.

    This is all surely going to backfire at some point and the whole Trump episode will end in ignominious failure. No Nobel Peace prize on the cards either!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    Just some random thoughts. It's a bit late and I'm tired so please forgive poor grammar here and there!

    Trump, Vance and Musk: what an obnoxious trio.

    Tariffs: sounds great from Trump’s point of view but, if the USA is like the UK, where practically every non-food item we buy comes from China it won’t be long before the average Joe in the USA finds that his cost of living is going to go up even further. If Trump thinks that these same goods can be manufactured in the USA, then said Joe is going to be even more upset, as there is no way they can compete on cost grounds due to the higher cost of labour.

    Ukraine: what a mess. Misinformation and downright lies from Trump et al. The minerals blackmail saga. Europe surely unable to fill the missing billions contributed by the USA and even with the money, unable to manufacture weapons on the scale required in such a short time. Putin presumably unable to believe his luck. He looks certain to keep the parts of the country that have been seized and will probably embolden him to have a pop elsewhere. Can’t see how a few hundred American mining engineers are the equivalent of a peace-keeping force. Presumably they wouldn’t have access to the Russian controlled part of Ukraine anyway as Putin would want to get his grubby hands on whatever minerals are in that area.

    This is all surely going to backfire at some point and the whole Trump episode will end in ignominious failure. No Nobel Peace prize on the cards either!
    I think I agree with all of that - except for the last sentence (unfortunately).

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