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Well if we look at how 2025 describes it in modern literature and understanding, the Google AI summary says..........Originally Posted by jon1959
"Soul" is often used to represent the deepest, most authentic part of a character's being, exploring their inner life, emotions, and sense of purpose, even when not explicitly tied to a religious concept; it serves as a way to delve into complex human experiences like identity, morality, and the search for meaning, often in the face of a material world that may seem to devalue such spiritual aspects.
I think that is an excellent summary and would require zero adjustments or edits when considering what God says about the soul; the Bible also informs us that the soul cannot be destroyed and that God has made this 'most authentic part of a characters being' to be eternal; and as we see below, even modern writing is not unfamiliar with this thought.
"MY HEART WILL GO ON" (1997)
Everyone will remember the lyrics of this song sung in connection with the movie Titanic, they finish with these words:-
Near, far, wherever you are
I believe that the heart does go on (why does the heart go on?)
Once more, you open the door
And you're here in my heart
And my heart will go on and on
You're here, there's nothing I fear
And I know that my heart will go on
We'll stay forever this way
You are safe in my heart and
My heart will go on and on.
Im getting the feeling that theres a few on here who associate the concept of life after with religion or belief in some deity. It doesnt have to be that way. Theres plenty of evidence out there, both scientific and personal accounts that suggests death is not the end, where religion doesnt factor into this at all
'Titanic'. Celine Dion. Google AI v tidbits from the Bible?
It is quite a useful tag if it isn't weighed down with all the 'eternal', supernatural, fantasy bagage.
But really, Celine Dion!
(I won't be able to get that awful sentimental crappy tune out of my head all day now. It is soul destroying!)
It's because posters are responding to the endless and extremely tiresome Biblical carpet-bombing by truthpaste.
Can we not therefore turn this conversation around and just eliminate the religious element? Because I think its quite an interesting topic.
As truthpaste started this thread and is one of the main contributors, why not start a new thread with a more salient heading that is germane to your spin on things and see if others also find it interesting?
If anyone started a thread on tooth fairies, santa or leprechauns you would either ignore it or quickly lose interest, but you have no choice when it comes to these eternal matters because deep down you (and others) know it is real and you are in this 'for keeps'.
Why did you bring your faith/ sci-fi based youtube* presentation up then?
* the one you suggested was linked to the Sumerians but when given the webpage on them with all the current findings and references you didn't make any solid connections at all?
Do dogs, cats...amoebas, etc hace a soul?
Thanks for the question, as the Bible is primarily a guide for mankind and His relationship with God then it isn't surprising that this and many other worthy questions are not specifically covered; but this entry in 'Got Questions' provides some comments that you may find helpful:-
The Bible states that both man (Genesis 2:7) and animals (Genesis 1:30; 6:17; 7:15, 22) have the breath of life; that is, both man and animals are living beings. The primary difference between human beings and animals is that humanity is made in the image and likeness of God (Genesis 1:2627), but animals are not. Being made in the image and likeness of God means that human beings are like God in some ways: they have a mind, emotion, and will; they are capable of reason and creativity; and they have a spiritual part that continues after death. If animals, including our pets, do have a soul or spirit (an immaterial aspect), it must therefore be of a different and lesser quality. This difference possibly means that animal souls do not continue in existence after death.
God created the animals as part of His very good creation (Genesis 1:31). Later, when it came time to rid the world of mankinds wickedness through the global flood, God preserved the animal kingdom. They were important enough in Gods plan to issue this command to Noah: You are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you (Genesis 6:19). Of course, this doesnt mean that our pets are in heaven, but it does show that God cares about animals and that a world without animals is contrary to His plan.
All of creation, including the animals, was affected by mankinds fall and suffers because of our sin. But there is a promised restoration: Against its will, all creation was subjected to Gods curse. But with eager hope, the creation looks forward to the day when it will join Gods children in glorious freedom from death and decay (Romans 8:2021, NLT). One day, Gods creation will experience freedom and share in the glory of the children of God. Does this mean that animals who have died will be resurrected? Possibly, but the passage does not explicitly say that.
There will definitely be animals on earth during the millennial kingdom. Wolves, leopards, goats, cows, lions, bears, cobras, and vipers are all mentioned (Isaiah 11:68). No matter how dangerous some of those animals may be in todays world, in the millennium, they will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain (Isaiah 11:9; cf. 65:25). There is no reason why there could not be pets or animals on the new earth, too (Revelation 21:1).
Here we have a man who believes in a talking snake and able to read the minds of others. Hilarious.
I wasnt suggesting it for my own benefit. I just thought the conversation would gain more traction if we removed the religious angle and took it from there.
That said, I am keen to hear from other non-religious folk who are open to the suggestion of life after death.
Well create a godless, soulless thread to mirror the LAD you are hoping for and see how much traction you get.
And here is a man that still thinks that everything emerged from nothing!
I have never said anything like that but don't let the truth get in the way of your endlss fabrications.
The Truth would actually set you free, yet:-
1. You offer only a secular point of view every time you post, hence everything from nothing.
2. You constantly accuse those who are theistic of carpet bombing the discussions while you carpet bomb every thread with your own empty and unexplained secular world view.
1. I have never suggested that everything came from nothing so you are either dishonest or deluded.
2. I have only ever accused YOU of carpet-bombing this message board with Biblical quotes. And it's 100% true.
You really must make an effort to be more accurate and honest in your posts. This is like shooting fish in a barrel!
As for your comment to me a few posts earlier in this thread (and copied below) it's hilarious:
"If anyone started a thread on tooth fairies, santa or leprechauns you would either ignore it or quickly lose interest, but you have no choice when it comes to these eternal matters because deep down you (and others) know it is real and you are in this 'for keeps'."
The most comical thing about truthpaste's recent posts is that on the one hand he tells me that I think something came from nothing (and without me making a comment to that effect) and on the other hand he seems to suggest that 'deep down' I know 'it' (presumably his deity but apologies if I'm wrong) is 'real'.
You couldn't make it up! He's so immersed in his own belief sysytem that he is a mind-reader and contradictory to boot. It's very bizarre and hardly rational.
More rational than someone replying to their own comments and also providing a commentary for any readers who may be confused.
I am stating that your world view is everything from nothing; which means now you have the perfect opportunity to get the slam-dunk you've been waiting for; demonstrate that your world view isn't everything from nothing and then you can drop the mic.
Few people will be holding their breath
So, in this example, if you've never suggested that everything came from nothing, can you elucidate further on the subject perhaps?
You continue to project my 'world view' about a particular subject that I haven't commented on. That's fabrication.More rational than someone replying to their own comments and also providing a commentary for any readers who may be confused.
I am stating that your world view is everything from nothing; which means now you have the perfect opportunity to get the slam-dunk you've been waiting for; demonstrate that your world view isn't everything from nothing and then you can drop the mic.
Few people will be holding their breath
Elucidate on a subject that I have never commented on? I suggest that truthpaste not invent a 'world view' for me in the first place.
Very amusing, everyone has a world view, in many cases it may not be well thought out and can often involve lots of wishful thinking, and individuals have no verified or logical reasons for believing it, but you can be sure you have one.
So far you (from your many hundreds of comments on this issue have made it very clear) want your world view to include:-
1. The origin of life cannot NOT be anything to do with any supreme deity who I may meet in the future.
2. The purpose of my life is my choice and nobody else has (or will have) any say in this unless I say so.
3. Life will hopefully end at the moment my heart ceases to function.
Anyone who says anything different to the above is crazy, a religious nut, misinformed, or all three.
Yet another one of your snide comments.
If you remember, you started this thread in response to my beliefs that death is not the end for us, which I detailed in another thread. I made it quite clear then that I didn't believe LAD needed to involve any kind of deity. As for soulless? Well, define soul. If consciousness and the soul are one and the same thing, then how can there be a soulless LAD?
There is nothing in your thread title that says this thread is about God. So, why should there be any point in starting another thread? It's as though you are wanting to see which thread becomes the most popular. Grow up.
I suggested trying to steer this conversation away from God (there are plenty of other threads on that topic already), for your benefit in order try and dive a bit deeper on the possibility of LAD.
Keep on deflecting. You fabricated a comment that is not based on anything I have ever said.
I have never stated that something came from nothing so you are lying or you are deluded.
Keep digging.
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