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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Can anyone remember the time when people tried to claim that the Trump-Putin love-in was nothing but a hoax!

    All MAGA speak and failure of critical faculties, true - but that time really happened. Incredible!
    Hmm that rings a bell

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    That was a good watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    He wears what he wears as a statement, and everyone knows why - it has been explained enough over 3 years.

    The attack on his clothing was pathetic - and just one part of a crass set up from the Trump menagerie.

    The reference to the ocean protecting the USA was a reference to something Donald Trump has said!

    'He had better beg, he has a very weak hand.' - beautiful Trumpspeak. Well done!

    I am no fan of Zelenskyy, but the Oval Office shit show is all on Trump. There may be some rowing back from both sides, but it turned out to be what couldbe a defining moment in the realignment of the post WW2 world: An isolationist US and expansionist Russia in an alliance - and a geopolitical and economic cold war with Europe and China.

    Europeans are traumatised and racing to adjust to the new reality but Xi and Putin are laughing their heads off.


    There you go, he begged it will all be sorted, it can't go on forever.

    I said way before he was elected, he'll get them both together and split the territory, neither can completely win.

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    Few interesting videos from congress last night.

    I definitely cannot think of a politician more coated in teflon than Trump. He ploughs on.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cly28qvp83pt

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Few interesting videos from congress last night.

    I definitely cannot think of a politician more coated in teflon than Trump. He ploughs on.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cly28qvp83pt
    The speech got a 69% national approval rating if CNN are to be believed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The speech got a 69% national approval rating if CNN are to be believed.
    I didn't watch it, and it did seem to be Trump on his best behaviour when he speaks well and passionately, but still I am surprised at that, as people are often so entrenched that nearly every opinion poll seems to be more or less 50/50!

    It's true though.

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    An anti Trump podcast I watched said that the poll was limited to people who had watched the whole speech and speculated that the large majority of those interviewed for the poll would be supporters of his because people who didn’t vote for him wouldn’t have bothered watching it.. Now, the phrase “he would say that wouldn’t he” springs to mind, but I reckon there’s probably a lot of truth to it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Few interesting videos from congress last night.

    I definitely cannot think of a politician more coated in teflon than Trump. He ploughs on.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cly28qvp83pt
    It was embarrassing and littered with untruths.

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    JD Vance is a right ponce

    Dicky Davies Eyes

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    Trump set to abolish the Department of Education according to rumours.

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    He also said in his speech that he would withdraw federal funding for any University that allows "illegal" protests. By that, I can only assume he's referring to the Palestine protests that occurred on American university campuses last year.

    In the meantime, the DOGE lies continue:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cvgwng0x9wno

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    He also said in his speech that he would withdraw federal funding for any University that allows "illegal" protests. By that, I can only assume he's referring to the Palestine protests that occurred on American university campuses last year.

    In the meantime, the DOGE lies continue:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cvgwng0x9wno
    Presumably he means anything that tolerated pro-Hamas sentiments?

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    Trust you. It's all about lack of freedom of speech, which incidentally, MAGA are supposed to be advocates of. Only when it suits them I guess.

    And Pro-Palestine does NOT mean pro-Hamas. Come on, you're better than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    Trust you. It's all about lack of freedom of speech, which incidentally, MAGA are supposed to be advocates of. Only when it suits them I guess.

    And Pro-Palestine does NOT mean pro-Hamas. Come on, you're better than that.
    Where did I say it did?

    I'm saying, it probably refers to anything referring to being pro-Hamas (or anti-semitic).

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    https://youtu.be/CUpOMSJ1MdU?si=h5Qt5m9gGzeORUej

    JD Vance is definitely over egging his macho nonsense

    I think he's hiding a secret

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Where did I say it did?

    I'm saying, it probably refers to anything referring to being pro-Hamas (or anti-semitic).
    Why do you think 'it probably refers' to that?

    Most of the student protests against genocide in Gaza have been broken up by the police for minor offences like blocking a side walk.

    However, you ight inadvertently have got this right. Both main US parties and many college/university administrations (encouraged by lobbyists and funders) decided 15 months ago that any demonstration against the Israeli bloodbath in Gaza (and the West Bank) is by definition anti Semitic and a display of support for Hamas. It isn't, but this is no time for truth to get in the way of low politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Why do you think 'it probably refers' to that?

    Most of the student protests against genocide in Gaza have been broken up by the police for minor offences like blocking a side walk.

    However, you ight inadvertently have got this right. Both main US parties and many college/university administrations (encouraged by lobbyists and funders) decided 15 months ago that any demonstration against the Israeli bloodbath in Gaza (and the West Bank) is by definition anti Semitic and a display of support for Hamas. It isn't, but this is no time for truth to get in the way of low politics.
    This is s bit smug even for you Jon!

    I haven't "inadvertently" got it right. I've got it right because that is what he is referring to.

    You guys don't need to be so jumpy!

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...ts-2025-03-04/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    https://youtu.be/CUpOMSJ1MdU?si=h5Qt5m9gGzeORUej

    JD Vance is definitely over egging his macho nonsense

    I think he's hiding a secret
    Actually quite funny for SNL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    https://youtu.be/CUpOMSJ1MdU?si=h5Qt5m9gGzeORUej

    JD Vance is definitely over egging his macho nonsense

    I think he's hiding a secret
    Scary to think he would be in control of the USA should something terrible happen to Donald

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Scary to think he would be in control of the USA should something terrible happen to Donald
    It would be terrible.

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    Just a reminder, the slaughter in Gaza, the war in Ukraine and the botched exit from Afghanistan that saw the return of the Taliban all happened under the last guy.

    Trump is a crude operator but it is worth keeping that in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    This is s bit smug even for you Jon!

    I haven't "inadvertently" got it right. I've got it right because that is what he is referring to.

    You guys don't need to be so jumpy!

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...ts-2025-03-04/
    You don’t know what he is referring to, and maybe he doesn’t either. The link you posted doesn’t provide any help. Trump has not defined ‘illegal’ and his spokesperson refused to elaborate or give any more detail. Smug is in your mirror, James.

    Maybe just follow the record and stop giving Donald J Trump more excuses?

    He is an authoritarian with thin skin who is using his power (and control of both houses of Congress, a politically compliant Supreme Court and a gagged/excluded mainstream media) to silence opposition and dissent. Like his mate Benjamin he has no interest in laws or ethics or norms of behaviour - just what he can make happen to benefit himself, his family, his golf buddies and the funders and lobbyists who helped him to a second term.

    Next time TOBW or Dorcus calls him out as a fascist I will have many fewer reasons to argue against. He is already as complicit in war crimes and crimes against humanity as Biden. But somehow you have failed to be ‘jumpy’ at all in the face of Trump 2. The new normal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    You don’t know what he is referring to, and maybe he doesn’t either. The link you posted doesn’t provide any help. Trump has not defined ‘illegal’ and his spokesperson refused to elaborate or give any more detail. Smug is in your mirror, James.

    Maybe just follow the record and stop giving Donald J Trump more excuses?

    He is an authoritarian with thin skin who is using his power (and control of both houses of Congress, a politically compliant Supreme Court and a gagged/excluded mainstream media) to silence opposition and dissent. Like his mate Benjamin he has no interest in laws or ethics or norms of behaviour - just what he can make happen to benefit himself, his family, his golf buddies and the funders and lobbyists who helped him to a second term.

    Next time TOBW or Dorcus calls him out as a fascist I will have many fewer reasons to argue against. He is already as complicit in war crimes and crimes against humanity as Biden. But somehow you have failed to be ‘jumpy’ at all in the face of Trump 2. The new normal?
    You'll still be able to wave your Palestine flag Jon, you'll still be able to call him a fascist if your mind changes, chill out!

    This refers to pro Hamas incidents in universities. A small minority of them no doubt but you probably ignored them. But that almost certainly is what is being referred to here. There was nothing "inadvertent" about it.

    I'm not sure using the houses you have won control of is the epitome of fascism that you think it is!

    Jumpy? Yes, the world is uncertain, but the last decade or two have been pretty damned shit so I am no more jumpy than what has happened under the last US president!

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