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Thread: Jamilu Collins

  1. #26

    Re: Jamilu Collins

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    C’mon now, we had Kanga up front at the time, Reindorf had to be a better option. Waldorf, Statler’s Muppet mate, would have been a better option thinking about it.
    That's right. A corner flag would have been a better option than Kanga. So of course Reindorf was a better option.

  2. #27

    Re: Jamilu Collins

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Cmon now, we had Kanga up front at the time, Reindorf had to be a better option. Waldorf, Statlers Muppet mate, would have been a better option thinking about it.
    Yes, although that still doesn't mean that Reindorf was even close to ready for championship football, which was the point i was making.

  3. #28

    Re: Jamilu Collins

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Yes, although that still doesn't mean that Reindorf was even close to ready for championship football, which was the point i was making.
    He wasn’t, but what were the other options? Sometimes it comes off throwing a youngster in, how else would you know if he was up to it? A ‘sink or swim’ situation does come off on occasions. Training through the week won’t always show if a youngster is ready, chucking them in, especially when they can’t do any worse than what they’re replacing is worth it.

  4. #29

    Re: Jamilu Collins

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    He wasnt, but what were the other options? Sometimes it comes off throwing a youngster in, how else would you know if he was up to it? A sink or swim situation does come off on occasions. Training through the week wont always show if a youngster is ready, chucking them in, especially when they cant do any worse than what theyre replacing is worth it.
    I'm not talking about options though, i'm talking about whether he was ready or not. Was he a better option than Kanga? yes, but only marginally, and that's not a criticism of Reindoff, he just wasn't ready for it, no shame in that, and by the looks of things, after his brief appearances for the club, they came to the conclusion that he wasn't ready yet, that's why he's at Bristol Rovers. My point i that some fans go way over the top about young players, i find it a bit cringe, and i'd rather talk young players down a bit. Ashford has hit a bit of a wall, tiredness, never being in this situation before, coming down off his relative success over the past few months. It happens, and we've seen it happen before. Players coming through need time and patience to develop and mature.

  5. #30

    Re: Jamilu Collins

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I'm not talking about options though, i'm talking about whether he was ready or not. Was he a better option than Kanga? yes, but only marginally, and that's not a criticism of Reindoff, he just wasn't ready for it, no shame in that, and by the looks of things, after his brief appearances for the club, they came to the conclusion that he wasn't ready yet, that's why he's at Bristol Rovers. My point i that some fans go way over the top about young players, i find it a bit cringe, and i'd rather talk young players down a bit. Ashford has hit a bit of a wall, tiredness, never being in this situation before, coming down off his relative success over the past few months. It happens, and we've seen it happen before. Players coming through need time and patience to develop and mature.
    But they still need the initial breakthrough and current circumstances are requiring us to try different options, more so during our chaotic start to this season. I think fans clamouring for Reindorf’s inclusion was an optimistic cry for help more than anything else.

  6. #31

    Re: Jamilu Collins

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    But they still need the initial breakthrough and current circumstances are requiring us to try different options, more so during our chaotic start to this season. I think fans clamouring for Reindorfs inclusion was an optimistic cry for help more than anything else.
    He looked very quick and capable when we rallied against a very good Southampton side in the cup.

    When he was brought on recently in a league game he looked like a rabbit in the headlights , he was far from ready

  7. #32

    Re: Jamilu Collins

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    He looked very quick and capable when we rallied against a very good Southampton side in the cup.

    When he was brought on recently in a league game he looked like a rabbit in the headlights , he was far from ready
    As I said Jim, due to our awful start, we were ready to cling to any hope. That game against Southampton gave that glimmer of hope and Reindorf was the main protagonist. If he hadn’t have been tried, whether ready or not, and the Kanga striker situation had continued, as it did to a certain extent, we’d have had a right to be a bit pissed off. Reindorf didn’t solve the problem but it had to be attempted.

  8. #33

    Re: Jamilu Collins

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I'm not talking about options though, i'm talking about whether he was ready or not. Was he a better option than Kanga? yes, but only marginally, and that's not a criticism of Reindoff, he just wasn't ready for it, no shame in that, and by the looks of things, after his brief appearances for the club, they came to the conclusion that he wasn't ready yet, that's why he's at Bristol Rovers. My point i that some fans go way over the top about young players, i find it a bit cringe, and i'd rather talk young players down a bit. Ashford has hit a bit of a wall, tiredness, never being in this situation before, coming down off his relative success over the past few months. It happens, and we've seen it happen before. Players coming through need time and patience to develop and mature.
    A better option than Kanga?
    The friggin corner flag moved quicker and it had a hamstring injury

  9. #34

    Re: Jamilu Collins

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    As I said Jim, due to our awful start, we were ready to cling to any hope. That game against Southampton gave that glimmer of hope and Reindorf was the main protagonist. If he hadn’t have been tried, whether ready or not, and the Kanga striker situation had continued, as it did to a certain extent, we’d have had a right to be a bit pissed off. Reindorf didn’t solve the problem but it had to be attempted.
    We were desperate for any alternative to Kanga and it was worth a shot
    As it stands it looks like hes not ready for a struggling Rovers side, but such was the desperation situation then, that he was being championed as an alternative option because at least he looked like he was interested in playing for us rather than moving slower than a statue

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