How do Labour voters feel about the party at the moment?

[JamesWales]

Corbyn comes across as a very good MP and a decent community man. But his policies were all fantastical in my opinion and he wouldn't have been able to make the tough decisions. The market would have absolutely ruined him too.

[Wash DC Blue]

Corbyn may not be in the arena - but he hasn't gone away and is shouting through the arena railings.

There were many things to admire about him (his policies), and many things to despair about as well (his leadership of the civil war Labour Party).

But as a campaigner, and as an 'honest' and principled politician who never fiddled his expenses (a rare breed), he is very effective.

https://thecorbynproject.com

In retrospect, I wish Corbyn had won.
A principled man who was in a tough position with his party.
I couldn’t deal with the likes of Thornberry, Abbott or Rayner…or the support from the likes of Owen Jones and Ash Sarkar (who incidentally has rowed back on some of her ideals)
What the UK has had since the later Blair years have all been guilty in the of Domicide of the country.

Wokeness…intersectionality…Whatever you want to call it has enabled the right to galvanize. There would be no MAGA movement if people didn’t feel so disenfranchised with the seemingly exponential growth of absurd post modern idea’s and vacuous virtue signaling.

The Labour Party, to me anyway, ditched the working class a long time ago and just sneered at “White Van Man”.

The likes of Mick Lynch, Eddie Dempsey, Paul Embery and the Blue Labour movement would be a group I could get behind.

[JamesWales]

In retrospect, I wish Corbyn had won.
A principled man who was in a tough position with his party.
I couldn’t deal with the likes of Thornberry, Abbott or Rayner…or the support from the likes of Owen Jones and Ash Sarkar (who incidentally has rowed back on some of her ideals)
What the UK has had since the later Blair years have all been guilty in the of Domicide of the country.

Wokeness…intersectionality…Whatever you want to call it has enabled the right to galvanize. There would be no MAGA movement if people didn’t feel so disenfranchised with the seemingly exponential growth of absurd post modern idea’s and vacuous virtue signaling.

The Labour Party, to me anyway, ditched the working class a long time ago and just sneered at “White Van Man”.

The likes of Mick Lynch, Eddie Dempsey, Paul Embery and the Blue Labour movement would be a group I could get behind.

I have an awful lot of time for Paul Embery. Really enjoy his articles and take on things

https://unherd.com/author/paul-embery/

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

In retrospect, I wish Corbyn had won.
A principled man who was in a tough position with his party.
I couldn’t deal with the likes of Thornberry, Abbott or Rayner…or the support from the likes of Owen Jones and Ash Sarkar (who incidentally has rowed back on some of her ideals)
What the UK has had since the later Blair years have all been guilty in the of Domicide of the country.

Wokeness…intersectionality…Whatever you want to call it has enabled the right to galvanize. There would be no MAGA movement if people didn’t feel so disenfranchised with the seemingly exponential growth of absurd post modern idea’s and vacuous virtue signaling.

The Labour Party, to me anyway, ditched the working class a long time ago and just sneered at “White Van Man”.

The likes of Mick Lynch, Eddie Dempsey, Paul Embery and the Blue Labour movement would be a group I could get behind.

I can't stand Abbott , Thornberry , Rayner or Owen Jones either although I do like the video of him leathering that daft old pro Israeli nutty labour mp who's name escapes me

I think Alan Johnstone would have made a great labour leader , a decent man without the creepy Blair and starmer vibe but in terms of " woke " I think that if people are going to vote for a right wing bunch of nutters like reform then I think they were always going to do that rather than blame it on too many transvestites teaching their kids etc etc

I get frustrated when the trendy lefties go on and on like Owen Jones tends to but the move to the right is happening because people now have reform to vote for

I am surprised only 14 percent of the country supported farage at the last election because social media seems awash with right wing union jack botherers

[Alan Lung]

I can't stand Abbott , Thornberry , Rayner or Owen Jones either although I do like the video of him leathering that daft old pro Israeli nutty labour mp who's name escapes me

I think Alan Johnstone would have made a great labour leader , a decent man without the creepy Blair and starmer vibe but in terms of " woke " I think that if people are going to vote for a right wing bunch of nutters like reform then I think they were always going to do that rather than blame it on too many transvestites teaching their kids etc etc

I get frustrated when the trendy lefties go on and on like Owen Jones tends to but the move to the right is happening because people now have reform to vote for

I am surprised only 14 percent of the country supported farage at the last election because social media seems awash with right wing union jack botherers

I used to really ****ing hate Owen Jones. But I think he's alright now. Either he's mellowed a bit or I have. Whatever.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I used to really ****ing hate Owen Jones. But I think he's alright now. Either he's mellowed a bit or I have. Whatever.

He's a one trick pony in my opinion like Abbott etc

A windbag , reminds me of Tony Benn

[Wales-Bales]

Deja vu ... https://www.msn.com/en-gb/politics/g...or/ar-AA1ANDNN

[JamesWales]

He's a one trick pony in my opinion like Abbott etc

A windbag , reminds me of Tony Benn

He is not fit to lace Tony Benns boots!

Few MPs I have respected more than Tony Benn. Owen Jones is a race obsessed identitarian

[Dorcus]

I used to really ****ing hate Owen Jones. But I think he's alright now. Either he's mellowed a bit or I have. Whatever.

I think Owen Jones is great, as is James O'Brien. We need more sensible people like those two, not less.

[Rjk]

I am certainly glad it's Labour in power and not the Tories.

they've made a few decisions that I wouldn't agree with certainly, but it makes sense to get the unpopular stuff out of the way so its a distant memory by the time of the next election.

[Wales-Bales]

I am certainly glad it's Labour in power and not the Tories.

I would hope so since you're the one who tactically voted them into power!

[Rjk]

I would hope so since you're the one who tactically voted them into power!

Yes, that was me, the power behind the power, pulling the strings from the shadows.

Do you think that the conservatives would be making a better go of it if they had won?

[Wales-Bales]

Yes, that was me, the power behind the power, pulling the strings from the shadows.

Do you think that the conservatives would be making a better go of it if they had won?

The conservatives literally handed over the baton to Labour and they are continuing with the same agenda. I hope you have a Plan B.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

He is not fit to lace Tony Benns boots!

Few MPs I have respected more than Tony Benn. Owen Jones is a race obsessed identitarian

Tony Benn was a boring old windbag who spent years and years slagging off the moderate wing of the labour party whilst wanting a return to the left wing of old

Thankfully he's not around now to go on and on and on , usually on question time

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I think Owen Jones is great, as is James O'Brien. We need more sensible people like those two, not less.

I like James O'brien but not Owen Jones

[North Cardiff Blue]

To begin - I haven't always voted them, but I'm not on the political right (if you've not already spotted that).

I didn't vote for them at the last election as I didn't like their lurch to the right. However, Labour seems to have completely lost the plot and it seems like they're trying to play Reform at their game. That's never been what Labour is about. Labour should always be about aiming for greater fairness for those at the bottom.

So, with Keir Starmer now getting tough on the disabled and proposing DWP changes that, if the Tories had implemented, would have been vilified, do Labour voters still think "at least we got rid of the Tories"? Conversely, do Tory and Reform voters agree with these things or are they wrong because they're Labour initiatives?

Politics is getting very weird.

Starmer is much further to the right than Boris and Sunak, but with the disadvantage that he can't manage basic economics and has applied taxes to stop business growth we are in a right mess.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Starmer is much further to the right than Boris and Sunak, but with the disadvantage that he can't manage basic economics and has applied taxes to stop business growth we are in a right mess.

Yes, Boris and Sunak did a great job with the economy after all.

We've had the same government since 1979 and its all going to come crashing down soon, the civil unrest is going to be biblical

[Wash DC Blue]

Yes, Boris and Sunak did a great job with the economy after all.

We've had the same government since 1979 and its all going to come crashing down soon, the civil unrest is going to be biblical

I think Civil unrest, possibly violent conflict is sadly inevitable across the West.
Tolerance to opposing views are non existent on both sides now and I believe there will be carnage.

I do realize that this sounds hyperbolic but it’s what I believe.

[Wales-Bales]

Starmer is much further to the right than Boris and Sunak, but with the disadvantage that he can't manage basic economics and has applied taxes to stop business growth we are in a right mess.

The policies are great if the intention was to actually stop growth!

[Pedro de la Rosa]

I think Civil unrest, possibly violent conflict is sadly inevitable across the West.
Tolerance to opposing views are non existent on both sides now and I believe there will be carnage.

I do realize that this sounds hyperbolic but it’s what I believe.

There are no opposing views in politics, though. The "left" and the "right" are the same. They're right wing, they're offering no solutions, the rich get richer and the middle class is getting eroded and the working classes are collateral damage.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I suppose starmers recent pro Ukraine stance and his crackdown on the racist thugs rioting last year were positives ....

But that's about it

[Dave Blue]

I suppose starmers recent pro Ukraine stance and his crackdown on the racist thugs rioting last year were positives ....

But that's about it

I really hope they are just front loading the medicine as they would put it. If they intend to go on like this, it’s merely a different government dealing out the same hopelessness.

[the other bob wilson]

I really hope they are just front loading the medicine as they would put it. If they intend to go on like this, it’s merely a different government dealing out the same hopelessness.

It’s just more of the George Osborne austerity treatment - in fact, didn’t Osborne say he wouldn’t have cut the benefits Labour are planning to?

[Wales-Bales]

It’s just more of the George Osborne austerity treatment - in fact, didn’t Osborne say he wouldn’t have cut the benefits Labour are planning to?

It's the great reset, but some people in high places are not playing the game anymore. What you are seeing now are signs of desperation, and yes the meltdown is going to be biblical.

[Hilts]

There are no opposing views in politics, though. The "left" and the "right" are the same. They're right wing, they're offering no solutions, the rich get richer and the middle class is getting eroded and the working classes are collateral damage.

Absolutely spot on.

The issue in this country is inequality. The super rich are getting richer , the poorer worse off. The rich will continue to buy assets , house prices will continue to rise etc and more people will end up in poverty.

The media controlled by those particularly on the right and wealthy who are happy to allow the public to be brainwashed into thinking that immigrants are the main issue.

Was it the Duke of Westminster who inherited nearly £10 billion pounds and paid no inheritance tax.?

Large increases in tax need to be put on the wealthy.