Surely no way back for dysfunctional Cardiff City after this?

[the other bob wilson]

Stoke benefit from controversial winner, but Cardiff deserved nothing from the game.

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[Eric the Half a Bee]

Stoke benefit from controversial winner, but Cardiff deserved nothing from the game.

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I was just saying to my boy that, in a way, we need to go down to teach our board and owner a lesson. We need change or we're going down next season or the season after. By then things could be even worse and any recovery made more difficult.

[Hilts]

We don't need to go down. It's going to be a complete disaster. He won't learn. The hope was to survive until he goes.

The struggle will continue. I include myself in this. The apathy and opposition from our fans and the press is embarrassing. Walesonline recycle rugby punch ups and bollox about a rugby player whose run away to be an NFL training squad player but next to nothing on the way Tan and co have run the club.

This could be a long period in the lower leagues. In 3 years will we be saying we need relegation to L2 so Tan gets taught a lesson.

[The Lone Gunman]

We don't need to go down. It's going to be a complete disaster. He won't learn. The hope was to survive until he goes.

This could be a long period in the lower leagues. In 3 years will we be saying we need relegation to L2 so Tan gets taught a lesson.

The truth is you have no idea what will happen if the club is relegated.

In recent seasons, Rotherham and Birmingham have got promoted back to the Championship at the first attempt following relegation, while it took Derby and Sheffield Wednesday just two seasons despite significant financial and behind-the-scenes problems.

Anything could happen if this team gets relegated, but one thing's for sure: a catalyst of some sort is desperately needed to bring about change as the club cannot keep operating in the same manner and expect different results. Perhaps relegation might be that catalyst.

[Dorcus]

The truth is you have no idea what will happen if the club is relegated.

In recent seasons, Rotherham and Birmingham have got promoted back to the Championship at the first attempt following relegation, while it took Derby and Sheffield Wednesday just two seasons despite significant financial and behind-the-scenes problems.

Anything could happen if this team gets relegated, but one thing's for sure: a catalyst of some sort is desperately needed to bring about change as the club cannot keep operating in the same manner and expect different results. Perhaps relegation might be that catalyst.

We can only hope. I definitely don't want relegation but if it were the only option to get rid of Tan then I'd reluctantly take it.

[Hilts]

We can only hope. I definitely don't want relegation but if it were the only option to get rid of Tan then I'd reluctantly take it.

The only option of getting rid of Tan is a buyer.

Relegation isn't going to help that.

I doubt there is any serious interest.

And if there is what would be the sort of owners who have been on the sidelines waiting for us to be in the lower leagues.?

[jon1959]

We can only hope. I definitely don't want relegation but if it were the only option to get rid of Tan then I'd reluctantly take it.

Who knows how Tan will react to relegation.

He might decide to sell the club but he has previously rejected approaches according to Mehmet Dalman (how genuine they were is anyone's guess) because the offer wasn't high enough and he didn't want to sell to someone who in his opinion would be bad for the club.

Although Tan's ownership has been poor overall (some positives) and his decision making usually bad or non existent, I do think he is genuine about wanting to leave Cardiff City FC in safe hands.

But I am convinced the main factor that will decide the future ownership is not relegation, size of offer, 'loss of face', or integrity and ambition of a prospective buyer - it is the Sala case. Until that is done I would be amazed if Tan left the club.

[PontBlue]

The only option of getting rid of Tan is a buyer.

Relegation isn't going to help that.

I doubt there is any serious interest.

And if there is what would be the sort of owners who have been on the sidelines waiting for us to be in the lower leagues.?

Relegation would reduce the valuation of the club but allow someone who knows what they are doing a greater chance of success.

[Enoch Mort]

Who knows how Tan will react to relegation.

He might decide to sell the club but he has previously rejected approaches according to Mehmet Dalman (how genuine they were is anyone's guess) because the offer wasn't high enough and he didn't want to sell to someone who in his opinion would be bad for the club.

Although Tan's ownership has been poor overall (some positives) and his decision making usually bad or non existent, I do think he is genuine about wanting to leave Cardiff City FC in safe hands.

But I am convinced the main factor that will decide the future ownership is not relegation, size of offer, 'loss of face', or integrity and ambition of a prospective buyer - it is the Sala case. Until that is done I would be amazed if Tan left the club.

I think you are correct in regards to the Sala case. It seems the Club are confident of success. If their confidence is not misplaced then Nantes may offer to settle. The question is does Tan take a settled offer or go for the full £100m+ ? It seems that he is a person who knows best irregardless of what advice may be coming his way. After all, he ignored the advice of his transfer committee in having nothing to with signing Sala on the proposed terms and chose to put his faith in Colin who went behind the back of the transfer committee and persuaded him to agree to the signing. If only he had listened.