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Smaller crowds, no Guarantee to return first time to the championship. It's depressing
How much did Brum spend?
25mOriginally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead
Bumbling around at the bottom of the Championship while playing tedious football against a raft of poor teams is equally depressing.
As things stand, City are aspiring to be as good as the likes of Preston, QPR and Blackburn while playing the same teams every season in front of rapidly diminishing crowds. Truth be told its become very boring.
Maybe familiarity breeds content for some but we had 20000 yesterday. The novelty of playing Lge 1 regulars in front of 9000 will soon wear off.
Love it. I'm giving you the benefit of any doubt on this one Dave
Depends on how we do. If we're among the playoffs, there's every chance we'd get bigger crowds than we have now. The majority of clubs who go down and are challenging for promotion the season afterwards see an increase in crowds. Relegation from the Premier League has the opposite effect, where crowds drop, often dramatically, but that's the pull of the PL from the Championship. It isn't the same between Championship and L1 at all. In some ways, The Championship has more in common with L1 than the Premier League.
The PL is what everyone wants to see. The Championship is a poor relation. There isn't a great deal more interest in the Championship across the country as there is in L1. It's not the holy grail for L1 teams as some seem to think.
Not forgetting wages etc.. probably more 30m+
We are far from relegated, so I ask this purely out of curiosity..👀..but what are the rules on financial fair play? Don't they change in that division or something? I don't follow such things that closely but I gather it's benefitted Birmingham?
We are far from relegated, so I ask this purely out of curiosity..👀..but what are the rules on financial fair play? Don't they change in that division or something? I don't follow such things that closely but I gather it's benefitted Birmingham?f
Philip Jenkins talked about this in the recent FAB meeting?
"Championship clubs must adhere to Profit and Sustainability (P & S) rules whist clubs in League One follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (SCMP)....."
And that SCMP is less restrictive on spending - which is why Birmingham were able to pay so much on transfers and salaries without getting into trouble with the EFL.
Did we? The crowd was declared as 20,638, but there definitely wasnt that many of us there. Not even close.
9,000 is a curious figure to settle on for League One. How did you reach it?
Cheers Jon. Doesn't impact us really but one consequence of the current rules, in the premier League at least has been a big ramp up in prices, as clubs justify it's needed for the FFP rules.
Sounds like there's a bit more freedom in League One anyway.
In the scenario we went down, I don't actually think crowds will drop off much from where they are. I would imagine that season and match tickets would stay the same which would understandably rankle some, but would probably be offset by (hopefully) winning more games and boosting interest that way.
Anyway, still every chance of staying up, though I must admit I think it's now more than 50% likely we go down and I haven't thought that all season
So hypothetically there is an outside chance that Tan is happy for us to go down, then he gets to spend a boat load on improving the squad which he couldn't in the championship and push for premier league the season after (if we went straight back up)?
As I said on another post yesterday, any straw to clutch onto will do at this point.
Great shout. Tan is just two steps ahead of the game.So hypothetically there is an outside chance that Tan is happy for us to go down, then he gets to spend a boat load on improving the squad which he couldn't in the championship and push for premier league the season after (if we went straight back up)?
As I said on another post yesterday, any straw to clutch onto will do at this point.
The catch is, I think, that your spending in league one is included in your 3 year P&S calculation when you go back up to the championship, assuming that you do.
It's almost a badge of honour for some posters on here, dismissing relegation as a 'mere trifle'. A bit like the Black Knight, 'it's only a scratch'. We're going down and probably to enjoy the experience for a considerable while. I think our attendances will reflect what people think of watching 3rd tier football.
Maybe Tan will leave us alone though, every cloud and all that…..yeah I know he’s thrown his money in, but he’s never got a proper manager in or someone to run the club and signings properly, so yeah msybe he lost 100 million, the buffoon…..
Far from relegated? We’ve just lost at home to Luton and Stoke, or did I dream it, maybe we will win at sheff utd and Norwich, always been happy hunting grounds if I recall right….we are down, we might finish bottom too at this rate.
Tan leaving us alone isn't the bit that matters, it's who would and could buy us after that. The days of a local owner coming in with enough money to even make us competitive even in the lower leagues is long over, would be another foreign owner or conglomerate, then you just hope you get one of the OK ones rather than one of the dodgy ones that could feck us permanently.
I did of course mean contempt earlier. Well I was assuming that the crowd will drop off and its been pretty low of late. Without the cushion of ST figures in the attendance, in an average team doing average things in league 1, I went for a figure that looks worse than the 10000 I thought it might be.
3 wins in 32 games at Norwich. 9 wins in 37 games at Sheffield United.
Why does it have to be a considerable while? Why not a season or two?
Watching poor Cardiff City sides perform poorly in a poor-quality Championship has become tiresome for a lot of fans. It's become boring for plenty of the fully-committed regulars, let alone the more casual elements of the club's support, and people have slowly but surely been drifting away. The apathy within the fanbase is palpable.
If the club does get relegated, a new manager comes in (with a new set of coaching staff) and the squad gets refreshed with some new players and a couple of genuine on-field leaders, there's a decent chance that next season may prove considerably more entertaining than the last few.
Of course, the club could get relegated, appoint another muppet (or keep the current one) and make a mess of things once more, but in League One this time. If that happens, crowds will drop sharply. But that will also be the case if the club follows the same path next season in the Championship.
I think there's a balance to be had. Relegation may end up being a disaster, but by the same token it may provide a much-needed catalyst for change. Who knows? The fact is that nobody does. But one thing's for certain - a lot of supporters have become sick and tired of the same old same old from Cardiff City in the Championship.
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