If you happen to walk past main reception at 2pm- the protest is still planned

[blue matt]

now I wonder if this would appease the protestors

Tan keeps on funding the club ( and he has done this from day one )

BUT

Dalman and Choo are binned and are replaced with a football man ( like Wrexham have Shaun Harvey )

[Father Dougal]

now I wonder if this would appease the protestors

Tan keeps on funding the club ( and he has done this from day one )

BUT

Dalman and Choo are binned and are replaced with a football man ( like Wrexham have Shaun Harvey )

Yes but try writing that on a bedsheet.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

now I wonder if this would appease the protestors

Tan keeps on funding the club ( and he has done this from day one )

BUT

Dalman and Choo are binned and are replaced with a football man ( like Wrexham have Shaun Harvey )

Dalman and Choo aren't the decision makers. They've both said so, repeatedly. They're incompetent and should be replaced but it's still like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. This is on one bloke.

I'm sorry, defending Tan as we slide into the 3rd tier is mental

[blue matt]

Dalman and Choo aren't the decision makers. They've both said so, repeatedly.

Do you believe them ? ? they must be making them or at least advising Tan, he doesnt have a clue and must be taking advise / direction from the people who are paid to do just that

[blue matt]

Yes but try writing that on a bedsheet.

valid point, its not happening even on a kingsize

[Father Dougal]

Dalman and Choo aren't the decision makers. They've both said so, repeatedly. They're incompetent and should be replaced but it's still like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. This is on one bloke.

I'm sorry, defending Tan as we slide into the 3rd tier is mental

Dalman seems to claim he is when it suits him.

Eg the cat who got the cream with ole.

Introducing bulut and laughing publicly at tan for not understanding football.

When it doesn't suit him though yes it's all on tan and he says hes powerless.

As I asked in the tan out thread but nobody has answered yet- in theory could tan sack dalman? Or do dalman shares and investment (is it true he's charging large interest and tan isn't?) Make it not possible as he's not actually an employee? I really don't know but considering how tan is quite ruthless at times how has dalman escaped especially when he mocked him so publicly.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Dalman seems to claim he is when it suits him.

Eg the cat who got the cream with ole.

Introducing bulut and laughing publicly at tan for not understanding football.

When it doesn't suit him though yes it's all on tan and he says hes powerless.

Yes, he's also an incompetent tosser but Tan is the decision maker.

[Father Dougal]

valid point, its not happening even on a kingsize

Or on the megaphone?

"What do we want?!"

Crowd "tan to continue to invest like he has since day 1 to be fair but get rid of dalman and choo and appoint some experienced people from the football world maybe like Shaun Harvey who was at wrexham for the business side and a director of football for the football side also."

"When do we want it?!"

Crowd "Now!"

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Do you believe them ? ? they must be making them or at least advising Tan, he doesnt have a clue and must be taking advise / direction from the people who are paid to do just that

Do I believe that Tan is the sole decision maker?

He doesn't have a clue but he thinks he does, and that's why we're where we are. Defending Tan, on today of all days, deary me

[llan bluebird]

There's minor Stockholm syndrome here.

He has been here a long time and turned his original £6 million investment into a loss of £200 million. He is the sole master of strategy and has never surveyed his customers on their satisfaction; attendance seems to be the metric. If they are happy, they'll turn up.

We are now in a worse place than when he bought us, and he has made a huge loss....But there are ego's at play in a demo?

[Bozza64]

The protest is all about onew pewrsons EGO and him saying i can get all the supporters to do what i want and say

[The Lone Gunman]

The protest is all about onew pewrsons EGO and him saying i can get all the supporters to do what i want and say

Nothing to do with the team being joint-bottom of the Championship after years of mismanagement at the club then?

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

As I asked in the tan out thread but nobody has answered yet- in theory could tan sack dalman? Or do dalman shares and investment (is it true he's charging large interest and tan isn't?) Make it not possible as he's not actually an employee? I really don't know but considering how tan is quite ruthless at times how has dalman escaped especially when he mocked him so publicly.

Dalman has loaned money to the club but that doesn't protect his position within the club. Presumably it's all been done properly so he can't whack up the interest rate or demand repayment if he fell out with Tan.
Not sure if he's a shareholder but if he is it must be a tiny amount as Tan owns about 98%. As majority shareholder Tan could, I think, remove him from his position as director and non-executive chairman any time he wants, so it is surprising he hasn't for numerous reasons.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

As majority shareholder Tan could, I think, remove him from his position as director and non-executive chairman any time he wants, so it is surprising he hasn't for numerous reasons.

Maybe, just maybe he's doing what Tan wants him to do

[Enoch Mort]

Dalman has loaned money to the club but that doesn't protect his position within the club. Presumably it's all been done properly so he can't whack up the interest rate or demand repayment if he fell out with Tan.
Not sure if he's a shareholder but if he is it must be a tiny amount as Tan owns about 98%. As majority shareholder Tan could, I think, remove him from his position as director and non-executive chairman any time he wants, so it is surprising he hasn't for numerous reasons.

Dalman has loaned the club £30m or so but if the interest rate he is charging is less than the going rate for mezzanine finance then it may well be written into the agreement that Tan will repay it if Dalman wants to walk. Dalman has stated publicly that of all the boards of businesses he sits on Cardiff City’s is the only one that has no expertise in the business it is actually in. Dalman has also said on a number of occasions that he wants a DOF but Tan isn’t having it. Tan’s appalling running of the club as the ultimate and unchallenged decision maker looks to be leading to us to relegation. It must be more than frustrating for a Chairman who is not beholden to Tan (unlike Choo) to make a success of a business he is trying to run so I would not be surprised if Dalman walks.

[J R Hartley]

Do I believe that Tan is the sole decision maker?

He doesn't have a clue but he thinks he does, and that's why we're where we are. Defending Tan, on today of all days, deary me

Mental Matt.

[blue matt]

now I wonder if this would appease the protestors

Tan keeps on funding the club ( and he has done this from day one )

BUT

Dalman and Choo are binned and are replaced with a football man ( like Wrexham have Shaun Harvey )

Dalman and Choo aren't the decision makers. They've both said so, repeatedly. They're incompetent and should be replaced but it's still like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. This is on one bloke.

I'm sorry, defending Tan as we slide into the 3rd tier is mental

Do I believe that Tan is the sole decision maker?

He doesn't have a clue but he thinks he does, and that's why we're where we are. Defending Tan, on today of all days, deary me

Mental Matt.

Not sure where I have defended Tan in any of this

while I understand that Tan will have the final say, he will not be interested in the day to day running of the club, that should be taken care of by Choo and Dalman ( who are failing massively ) imagine if we had a Shaun Harvey running the club,
what are Choo and Dalman telling Tan, Tan has lost interest in us, but what the hell info are them pair feeding him

[BLUETIT]

LeAdEr

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5kbo8pUDcHQ

[Natman Blue]

There's minor Stockholm syndrome here.

He has been here a long time and turned his original £6 million investment into a loss of £200 million. He is the sole master of strategy and has never surveyed his customers on their satisfaction; attendance seems to be the metric. If they are happy, they'll turn up.

We are now in a worse place than when he bought us, and he has made a huge loss....But there are ego's at play in a demo?

Now there's a lesson in plucking figures out of thin air!