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Thread: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

  1. #176

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by LA Bluebird View Post
    Yeah, Alves made a half hearted attempt to close down and then actually got out of the way of the shot.

    I don’t think Horvath had a chance once it left his foot, but I do agree with the comment he should be arranging his defense and wall better there. If Brannigan hadn’t shot he’d have probably been able to dribble 10 yards closer to goal as we were totally unprepared. Really poor goalkeeper, the injury to Alnwick hasn’t helped us. Mad to think he was playing in the Prem a few years ago.
    He's 35/40 yards out, normally you'd say, let him shoot...

    This isn't on Horvath. He's also never played a PL game and his signing is an indictment on our recent recruitment. Signed to play out from the back, which he can't do, and then within half a season is dropped to the bench for the bloke he was supposed to replace. Like so many of our signings, he didn't improve the side, and will be on big wages for another 2 seasons.

  2. #177

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blue View Post
    Did anyone really think wed hold on for the win after our goal? How many times has the opposition just had to step up just a little to get back in the game and even win it?
    No. We said to each other, that we definitely need a 2nd or 3rd goal here. That was possible given Oxford's lack of doing anything too much to worry us. However, much like many a game in this farcical season, we have not had a killer instinct or ability to see off games or go for the jugular. It's been such a disappointing aspect of this season.

  3. #178

    Re: CARDIFF CITY v OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    Did WOL have reporter at the ground today, if so he must have slept through it after giving these ratings.
    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...elder-31480902
    i don't find those ratings too bad.
    I think most of the a
    starting eleven played quite well. Ashford didn't have a good game, and none of the subs did anything of note really.

    I wouldn't take any of Oxford's team in our squad, and her they were able to scrap out a draw with their only shot on target all game and they will probably be a division higher than us next season.

    we didn't have enough urgency, we are too easy to press, and there were opportunities the wingers had to run at their man that for some reason they didn't take.

    Oxford were even less effective in attack though. if they were going to do anything it was always going to be from a set piece, and that's what happened. a brilliant strike

  4. #179

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by PontBlue View Post
    The problem was the lack of closing down. We gave them a free shot after the free kick was played.
    yeah we had to get someone closer to that

  5. #180

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks View Post
    Horvath gives me no confidence whatsoever
    I said when it was announced that Jak was out for the season it was a big loss, I thought it at the time and I still think it now

    Jak would be my No1 over Horvath every single day

  6. #181

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    much Better today, we had more urgency ( still not quite enough though ) and wanted to get forward most of the time

    on a different day, they are down to 10 men ( that was a red all day long ) and we are pushing them even more

    If we can keep most of this team and we get a bit of luck, we will do fine in L1 next season

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    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    And the season after...
    It will be interesting to see how many 'prize assets' will remain at Cardiff in the coming months.

    The likes of Colwill, Robertson, Robinson, Salech, Davies, Ashford, may attract bids too difficult to turn down, particularly from clubs who have already benefitted from Cardiff 'rejects' in the past ... Derby, Oxford, Sheff Wed, Pompey

  8. #183

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird View Post
    It will be interesting to see how many 'prize assets' will remain at Cardiff in the coming months.

    The likes of Colwill, Robertson, Robinson, Salech, Davies, Ashford, may attract bids too difficult to turn down, particularly from clubs who have already benefitted from Cardiff 'rejects' in the past ... Derby, Oxford, Sheff Wed, Pompey
    Or does Tan keep the side and go for promotion

  9. #184

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    Or does Tan keep the side and go for promotion
    If he wants promotion, keeping this shower wouldn't be advisable

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    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    Or does Tan keep the side and go for promotion
    Unsure whether the Birmingham example would be repeated too soon. Having said that, if Plymouth or Luton go down and keep their sides then they would have a decent chance of a swift return.

  11. #186

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Glad to see a bit of sense on here as felt like I was in a parallel universe walking away from the ground today with people praising the performance. It was slow, laboured and lacking in energy. Not blaming Ramsey he had no chance in 3 days but not sure what people were watching

    From your not fit to wear the shirt against Stoke to applauded off after 1 point from 6 in the week after. Its a funny old game

  12. #187

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    much Better today, we had more urgency ( still not quite enough though ) and wanted to get forward most of the time

    on a different day, they are down to 10 men ( that was a red all day long ) and we are pushing them even more

    If we can keep most of this team and we get a bit of luck, we will do fine in L1 next season
    “Much better”? How? Why? Willock should have done better with his early chance and he wasn’t too far wide with another shot in the first half, he also supplied a good cross for the goal, but what else did we do to suggest we had a second goal in us? It was just the usual combination of wrong options taken, faulty technique when crossing and shooting and inability to play a killer pass in the final third that we see every week.
    Incredibly, there are still people who think this is a squad which should be halfway up the league, whereas, increasingly, it’s looking like it will finish where its performance over nine months merits - 24th out of 24.

  13. #188

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub View Post
    Glad to see a bit of sense on here as felt like I was in a parallel universe walking away from the ground today with people praising the performance. It was slow, laboured and lacking in energy. Not blaming Ramsey he had no chance in 3 days but not sure what people were watching

    From your not fit to wear the shirt against Stoke to applauded off after 1 point from 6 in the week after. Its a funny old game
    Indeed.

    If Riza was still in charge, the team would have been booed off again after that display. However, the fact that Ramsey was on the sidelines means it was somehow deemed a much-improved effort. Which is nonsense.

    Apart from Salechs goal, did the Oxford keeper have a genuine save to make?

  14. #189

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub View Post
    Glad to see a bit of sense on here as felt like I was in a parallel universe walking away from the ground today with people praising the performance. It was slow, laboured and lacking in energy. Not blaming Ramsey he had no chance in 3 days but not sure what people were watching

    From your not fit to wear the shirt against Stoke to applauded off after 1 point from 6 in the week after. Its a funny old game
    Pretty much as I saw it, I didnt see that much difference in that or many of the other performances weve watched at home this season.

    Maybe expectations were too high, and realistically there wasnt enough time to get different ideas across from the new coaching staff

    Nothing that happens now will reflect in a negative way on Rambo and his newly assembled coaching team.

    The damage was done months ago, in reality were a club destined to the drop this season, we obviously need to show some fight until the end

    The big challenge now is preparing for division one and planning how were going to get back up as early as possible!!

    Who do we wan to lead us, if it isnt Rambo(and I hope it is)?

    Who stays and who can go?

    Ive seen it stated that some of the players dont have clauses in their contracts once were relegated

    Thats good, because I cant think theyll be a big queue too sign most of them

    Youngsters aside, I doubt anyone from the Premier League are looking to swoop in and take a punt on any of our first team squad

    In fact would any Championship team with ambition want any of them?

    Were going to be stuck with a lot of them unfortunately!!

    The whole set up needs a reset from top to bottom especially recruitment

  15. #190

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    “Much better”? How? Why? Willock should have done better with his early chance and he wasn’t too far wide with another shot in the first half, he also supplied a good cross for the goal, but what else did we do to suggest we had a second goal in us? It was just the usual combination of wrong options taken, faulty technique when crossing and shooting and inability to play a killer pass in the final third that we see every week.
    Incredibly, there are still people who think this is a squad which should be halfway up the league, whereas, increasingly, it’s looking like it will finish where its performance over nine months merits - 24th out of 24.
    We tried a couple of 'killer' passes in the 1st half and they went 20 yds in front of the target. I always wanted to find out from Bulut and then Riza how they expected City to open up teams, create a bit of space, stretch defences etc., playing like they do. Perhaps I could now ask Ramsey the same question [I think his football pedigree would baulk at anything hinting at 'direct'], but the reality is the last 3 years of recruitment has assembled a squad utterly incapable of competing at this level. Oh the irony of the 6th highest paid squad ending up bottom of the table..

  16. #191

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by olderblue View Post
    Pretty much as I saw it, I didn’t see that much difference in that or many of the other performances we’ve watched at home this season.

    Maybe expectations were too high, and realistically there wasn’t enough time to get different ideas across from the new coaching staff

    Nothing that happens now will reflect in a negative way on Rambo and his newly assembled coaching team.

    The damage was done months ago, in reality we’re a club destined to the drop this season, we obviously need to show some fight until the end

    The big challenge now is preparing for division one and planning how we’re going to get back up as early as possible!!

    Who do we wan to lead us, if it isn’t Rambo(and I hope it is)?

    Who stays and who can go?

    I’ve seen it stated that some of the players don’t have clauses in their contracts once were relegated

    That’s good, because I can’t think they’ll be a big queue too sign most of them

    Youngsters aside, I doubt anyone from the Premier League are looking to swoop in and take a punt on any of our first team squad

    In fact would any Championship team with ambition want any of them?

    We’re going to be stuck with a lot of them unfortunately!!

    The whole set up needs a reset from top to bottom especially recruitment
    Unless things change drastically in our final two games, we will have gone down with barely a whimper while all around us have been scrapping for every point and pulling off results of a type we've been unable to match all season. Recruitment staff at Championship clubs will have noted that, they'll also also have noted our chronic inability to keep clean sheets or hold on to a lead.
    Perhaps some of our youngsters will generate some interest from second tier clubs, but I think any of the more experienced players in the squad who are thinking that they'll get an equally well paid move to another Championship club may be in for a bit of a shock when they find out the sort of club that will be coming in for them and, if they are lucky enough to be wanted by an established club at this level, they will not be willing to pay them as much as they've been getting here.
    As others have said in this thread, the squad has been completely over rated by many supporters and in the media - you can count on the fingers of one hand the games in which they have lived up to the hype they receive from some.

  17. #192

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by olderblue View Post
    Who do we want to lead us, if it isnt Rambo (and I hope it is)?
    Out of interest, what do you see in Ramsey that makes you believe he would make a decent manager at this stage of his career? He's clearly an intelligent guy, but other than that I've never seen anything in him to suggest to me he's management material. He's just never struck me as that sort of personality.

    I don't think it will happen anyway - I think he wants to play again next season, or at least try to - but I'll be honest, I've been a bit baffled by the reaction to his short-term appointment and even more baffled by the suggestion that he could be a long-term solution to our management problem.

  18. #193

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    We tried a couple of 'killer' passes in the 1st half and they went 20 yds in front of the target. I always wanted to find out from Bulut and then Riza how they expected City to open up teams, create a bit of space, stretch defences etc., playing like they do. Perhaps I could now ask Ramsey the same question [I think his football pedigree would baulk at anything hinting at 'direct'], but the reality is the last 3 years of recruitment has assembled a squad utterly incapable of competing at this level. Oh the irony of the 6th highest paid squad ending up bottom of the table..
    we are not the 6th highest paid squad

  19. #194

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    we are not the 6th highest paid squad
    Last year we had the 7th highest wage bill. Do you think that's gone up or down this season?

  20. #195

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Last year we had the 7th highest wage bill. Do you think that's gone up or down this season?
    we did not have the 7th highest paid squad last season, that is completely wrong

  21. #196

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    New GK

    New RB
    Fish
    Lawlor
    Bagan

    Robertson
    J Colwill
    R Colwill

    Davies
    Salech
    New LW

    Some half decent additions in those positions and I think wed not be a complete waste of time in league one. In fact a competent manager would probably get us competing when you add the likes of O Dowda, Robinson, Turnbull, Ashford etc as good options and squad players, along with a few others.

    Recruitment has to be right though and manager has to be right so thats where it will probably all go wrong

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    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub View Post
    Glad to see a bit of sense on here as felt like I was in a parallel universe walking away from the ground today with people praising the performance. It was slow, laboured and lacking in energy. Not blaming Ramsey he had no chance in 3 days but not sure what people were watching

    From “your not fit to wear the shirt” against Stoke to applauded off after 1 point from 6 in the week after. It’s a funny old game
    Too little, too late; he only had a few hours, but there was an improvement.

    Twelve shots to two, three on target for us, one for them, 21 touches in the box, they had 3, 4 corners, they had none.

    We were terrible in front of goal again, though, going for that extra touch and losing it quite a few times.

  23. #198

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Out of interest, what do you see in Ramsey that makes you believe he would make a decent manager at this stage of his career? He's clearly an intelligent guy, but other than that I've never seen anything in him to suggest to me he's management material. He's just never struck me as that sort of personality.

    I don't think it will happen anyway - I think he wants to play again next season, or at least try to - but I'll be honest, I've been a bit baffled by the reaction to his short-term appointment and even more baffled by the suggestion that he could be a long-term solution to our management problem.
    Its a good question, maybe Im looking at it from a different perspective
    Hes a very wealthy guy, so wont need to put up with stuff that maybe other coaches would, if they were appointed.

    Hes an intelligent individual who has played at the highest level in a number of leagues, hes probably able to leverage that in attracting some talented coaches and maybe loan players into the squad

    I might be totally wrong, but I really dont see how he can carry on playing with the amount of set backs hes had with injuries, and if he chooses to go into a managerial role, where better to start
    than his home town club?

    I have no time for this current board, I think having someone who isnt financially reliant on the job, puts him into a position of strength

    To put it bluntly I doubt hed take any crap from them

    Also at the back of my mind is still the complete f&@ up years ago when Toshack wanted to come back as a coach and the board at the time missed a massive opportunity to get a home grown player back

    As I said earlier, I might be completely wrong

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    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    I can certainly see Ramsey as a coach, but a manager? I'm not so sure. That's not to say a manager has be any particular type of personality, as they obviously don't, but I've just never thought of Ramsey as a future manager. Has he ever expressed a desire to go into management when his playing career ends? I don't know, can't recall ever reading anything along those lines, but maybe he has.

    He's an intelligent individual, so I'm pretty sure he'll steer clear of any job offers from Tan and Co in the near future, as this club under their ownership would not be a sensible place for a guy like him to start a managerial career. But, as I've said, I'm pretty sure he wants to try to play for another year anyway, so it's probably not a consideration at this stage.

  25. #200

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 OXFORD UTD. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub View Post
    New GK

    New RB
    Fish
    Lawlor
    Bagan

    Robertson
    J Colwill
    R Colwill

    Davies
    Salech
    New LW

    Some half decent additions in those positions and I think we’d not be a complete waste of time in league one. In fact a competent manager would probably get us competing when you add the likes of O Dowda, Robinson, Turnbull, Ashford etc as good options and squad players, along with a few others.

    Recruitment has to be right though and manager has to be right so that’s where it will probably all go wrong
    Part of me would love to see that young team in L1, part of me worries that they'd be bullied by the grizzly old L1 monsters

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