Reply With Quote7/1 to stay up with SkyBet.Originally Posted by delmbox
Get your money on it if you're brave enough.
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I've swung back round now, I reckon we'll do it
7/1 to stay up with SkyBet.
Get your money on it if you're brave enough.
Don't be daft. Derby have had some great results recently, but they've also lost to Luton and the Jacks. Nothing is guaranteed with any of the clubs at the bottom.
Speaking of which, here's the current form table for the last ten Championship games. Our position is suitably grim but we've got two very kind fixtures left to play. We'll probably lose at least one of them, but still...
https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables...home-and-away/
Goals scored.
Ben Cabango is going to score an OG to relegate us in the 93rd minute
If we can't beat Oxford or Stoke at home, I fail to see how we are going to beat WBA.
No guarantees , but it looks extremely unlikely that we'll ick up wins in our last two games.
Doesn't matter what the rest do.
I actually checked that earlier and thought there's no way I'm putting more than a tenner on it and it's not really worth it for 707/1 to stay up with SkyBet.
Get your money on it if you're brave enough.
The problem with all of this if we do this and they do that stuff is that from very rarely doing our bit, we've now just stopped doing it. I was pretty confident that we could win our last two games, but now that West Brom and Norwich have sacked their managers, I'm not expecting us to do so (West Brom still have a very slim chance of making the Play Offs as well).
With Coventry playing early, they’ll know by KO time, if they still got a chance
If Coventry get a point WBA can't reach play offs.
And likewise that game is huge for us.
I think it's irrelevant. West Brom's players will already know they can't realistically reach the play-offs, especially as Middlesbrough play Coventry on the final day.
I'm more concerned by the fact that they're obviously a better side than they've shown recently. With their manager gone and a play-off place a pipedream, there in no real pressure on them on Saturday.
Anything can happen of course, but with the likes of Adam Armstrong, Karlan Grant, Daryl Dike, Grady Diangana, Jed Wallace and Jonathan Swift available to them, a relaxed West Brom are likely to have plenty of attacking threat against our fragile defence.
They have only played two matches since beating us and they have won one of those
That list feels like a who's who of "Too good for the Championship, not good enough for the Premier League"
That's similar to what I've been saying about West Brom all season - they have a squad of decent players by Championship standards, but none of them would be good enough at the next level. And that's kind of where we're at in the Championship this season. Very few players at very few clubs appear to have the quality required to play at a higher level. There are usually a reasonable number of players at the teams who are in and around the top six who you think have the potential to make the step up, but this season? Not so many.
The Forest tactic seems to be working, at least this season. Overspend on Premier standard players, get a points deduction for the overspending but the said players have been good enough to absorb the deduction and you stay up. Bit of a gamble but underspending or going into the Premier League with minor tweaking to your Championship squad is a recipe for immediate relegation.
What a strange situation football is in.
yeah it's a strange situation, the gap between the premier League and championship is increasing all the time, I think in a couple of years it'll be defacto a closed shop.
lower level premier league clubs are financially outspending some traditional European giants these days. the whole system should be overhauled for the good of the sport.
Totally agree 👍
Therein lay the main problem with our two failed sojourns in the Premier. Though the second one also called for a Leeds' approach of replacing the manager upon promotion.
A former Cardiff City director told me back in June 2012 that he and the rest of the board believed the Premier League would effectively become a closed shop within a couple of years. He reckoned that if Cardiff, or any other Championship club for that matter, was unable to secure promotion to the top flight by 2014 at the latest, then they never would as the increase in parachute payments would ensure that anyone who got relegated from the Premier League would be certain to go straight back up.
This was one of his and his fellow directors' justifications for accepting Vincent Tan's rebrand.
I have no doubt the individual concerned believed what he was saying, but it was, of course, bollocks.
I still remember all the talk about last season’s Championship being such a strong league with Leicester described as the greatest ever Championship team. Go forward a year and the three promoted teams in what was supposed to be the best Championship ever are going to be relegated with what has to be the lowest combined number of points in the history of the Premier League.
Sadly, it may be getting to the stage where the Forest approach will be the only way promoted clubs will be able to stay up - this can’t be good for football and I can only see the situation getting worse in years to come. However, Leeds are a big enough team to stand a chance of bucking the trend, but I reckon Burnley and whoever wins the Play offs will be relegated by this time next year (ie with weeks of the Premier League left to go).
Next season will be interesting. I assume the playoff winners will come straight back down but I'm curious as to how Burnley will get on with how solid their defence has been this season. Leeds, who knows, they might be ok with a bit of money spent
We are 100% going down. There hasn't been any fighting spirit and even if there was we are shite.
But apart from that, we've got every chance.
Thing is, you're now looking at one of the non-promoted teams to have a really shocking year in able to be able to stay up. West Ham, Wolves are both big clubs backed by money, maybe you hope a Brighton, Brentford or Bournemouth start replacing some of the players they sell on every year with lesser quality. Everton seem to have stablized and will have the new stadium and owners giving them money to spend, United and Spurs aren't realistic candidates to ever go down.
I understand people have been saying the Prem will be a closed shop for a long time but it does feel like it's finally close to happening. The Forest model really is the only way, spend what these Prem teams have been spending for years in one offseason and pray to god you don't get it wrong or you might not have a club in 3-4 seasons. Southampton only conceded 24 goals last season and have barely avoided going down with a record low points total, no matter how good Burnley's defense has looked in the Championship they have no hope of staying up unless they spend.
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