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  1. #1

    So what happens now?

    Is Vincent Tan finally going to listen?

    https://mauveandyellowarmy.net

  2. #2

    Re: So what happens now?

    What happens now is we take an age to appoint a new manager, by which time all of the best options are no longer available. then we give it to someone already at the club, but too late to bring in their own players or stamp their own style on it

  3. #3

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    We sign 2-3 new players BEFORE there's a new manager in place, courtesy of our highly-esteemed transfer committee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Is Vincent Tan finally going to listen?

    https://mauveandyellowarmy.net
    I don't think he will change, he hasn't in all these years and will probably see City's relegation as vindication of his scepticism of so-called football experts. Choo and Dalman will probably continue to try and be a bit too clever with their choice of manager - nothing so boring as picking someone with good experience at league 1/Championship level for them. Regarding Ramsey the only sensible option other than him leaving is a coaching role. The playing side was a sentimental failure and if you're looking to promote a player from this squad to manager, it would be Joe Ralls ahead of Ramsey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I don't think he will change, he hasn't in all these years and will probably see City's relegation as vindication of his scepticism of so-called football experts. Choo and Dalman will probably continue to try and be a bit too clever with their choice of manager - nothing so boring as picking someone with good experience at league 1/Championship level for them. Regarding Ramsey the only sensible option other than him leaving is a coaching role. The playing side was a sentimental failure and if you're looking to promote a player from this squad to manager, it would be Joe Ralls ahead of Ramsey.
    Interesting. What makes you think Joe Ralls might be managerial material?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Is Vincent Tan finally going to listen?

    https://mauveandyellowarmy.net
    The words root and branch come to mind after reading this piece,I freely confess that I’m not a coaching expert but for the last few seasons I just can’t discern any pattern to the way city are set up or play, I remember watching games under Malky when, although it may have not been the most exciting to watch, I could see the banks of players on the pitch and what they were trying to do,now it’s just so slow and frustrating.Whoever is brought in to manage the club and I’m sure, when that day comes we will all have our misgivings for different reasons, I would just like to be able to discern a pattern in our play and a bit of speed going forward. Hopefully,the process will not be drawn out and the new manager will have a bit of time to put his stamp on the team before what,I’m sure is going to be a critical season for us as a club.

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    We can fill our club full of top quality football geezers, but if they still have to run everything by Tan and get him to agree then it's doomed to failure as he has plainly felt he knows better.

    He needs to bring in a proper structure and let people do their jobs, preferably full time people running the club day to day.

    Then get a proper manager.

    Then maybe a few years later we will make our way back.

  8. #8

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    Ken Choo will conduct a review and decide that all of the problems were caused by the managers & players.

    Let them eat cake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    Interesting. What makes you think Joe Ralls might be managerial material?
    I just think he's probably more relevant in experience and character than Ramsey. Personally I wouldn't go for either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I just think he's probably more relevant in experience and character than Ramsey. Personally I wouldn't go for either.
    Whenever I've seen Ralls being interviewed, he's never come across as particularly inspiring.

  11. #11

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    It feels like as Cardiff City supporters we're constantly waiting for news these days - whether a manager will be sacked; whether an interim manager will be appointed as permanent manager; who a new manager will be; and now what the outcome of this "review" will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    It feels like as Cardiff City supporters we're constantly waiting for news these days - whether a manager will be sacked; whether an interim manager will be appointed as permanent manager; who a new manager will be; and now what the outcome of this "review" will be.
    I drove past CCS earlier. Not sure what to make of this, but it seems they're installing a chimney out of the roof of the Ninian Stand..

  13. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I drove past CCS earlier. Not sure what to make of this, but it seems they're installing a chimney out of the roof of the Ninian Stand..
    Will the smoke to indicate a new manager be red?

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    So apparently we've asked the agents Wasserman to help us in the search for a new manager

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/wass...ma/berater/440

    so a good chance it'll be one of their clients?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    So apparently we've asked the agents Wasserman to help us in the search for a new manager

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/wass...ma/berater/440

    so a good chance it'll be one of their clients?
    Well, there’s one out of work manager out of that lot that stands out to me - he used to play for us, but would he drop down to League One?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Well, there’s one out of work manager out of that lot that stands out to me - he used to play for us, but would he drop down to League One?
    I#m assuming he woudn't be looking below a top Championship side

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    WOL's article says "The agency has been given a remit by Cardiff to draw up a list of potential candidates to fill the manager's position as the club embark on their first campaign in the third tier for more than two decades. Wasserman have asked to whittle down candidates into a shortlist, based on the club's criteria, with their expertise largely targeted in Europe and in North America."

    Where are those "candidates" coming from in the first place? Are they anyone identified as potentially a good fit, or are they just whoever contacts the club to say they're interested?

    Also, was Wasserman one of the agencies supposedly engaged to help with manager recruitment before the club stuck with Riza? If so, what's to say they won't be ignored again?

  18. #18

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    Slight update.
    @CardiffCityFC
    are looking at a host of options as manager. One or two would excite, couple of others semi at best, a few don’t appeal to me at all. Hopefully they’re ruled out. They’ll come up with a final shortlist of 2-3, then it’ll be Tan’s decision

    Paul Abbandonato just posted

    seems like he's seen the names being touted

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    Re: So what happens now?

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    Slight update.
    @CardiffCityFC
    are looking at a host of options as manager. One or two would excite, couple of others semi at best, a few don’t appeal to me at all. Hopefully they’re ruled out. They’ll come up with a final shortlist of 2-3, then it’ll be Tan’s decision

    Paul Abbandonato just posted

    seems like he's seen the names being touted
    Or has he just looked at that list on transfermarkt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    Or has he just looked at that list on transfermarkt?
    maybe but we need to get a management team in ASAP as mentioned yesterday before June the 1'st at latest but feel this is going to drag on

    sorting out existing contracts who's coming and going wheeling and dealing in the market can take weeks .

    we need to be hitting the ground running in pre season friendlies this season

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    Re: So what happens now?

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    maybe but we need to get a management team in ASAP as mentioned yesterday before June the 1'st at latest but feel this is going to drag on

    sorting out existing contracts who's coming and going wheeling and dealing in the market can take weeks .

    we need to be hitting the ground running in pre season friendlies this season
    Absolutely.

    If I was running a football club I'd constantly have a list of 2 or 3 potential managers to approach if I sacked the current manager or he was poached by another club (imagine!), who could provide continuity in terms of philosophy and style. It always seems like a shock to our lot when they suddenly realise we haven't got a manager or anyone lined up.

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    Re: So what happens now?

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    we need to be hitting the ground running in pre season friendlies this season
    We hit the ground running in pre-season friendlies last year while your mate was in charge. It counted for shit.

    What the club needs to do above all else is appoint the right man. If that takes a few days, or a couple of weeks, or a month or more, then so be it. But they have to get it right this time.

  23. #23

    Re: So what happens now?

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    Slight update.
    @CardiffCityFC
    are looking at a host of options as manager. One or two would excite, couple of others semi at best, a few don’t appeal to me at all. Hopefully they’re ruled out. They’ll come up with a final shortlist of 2-3, then it’ll be Tan’s decision

    Paul Abbandonato just posted

    seems like he's seen the names being touted


    Seems like he's covered all bases there! So it could be someone exciting, someone semi exciting or someone under whelming. Cheers for that bombshell paul!

  24. #24

    Re: So what happens now?

    Outcome of review published in minutes of meeting:

    11am on 25 July 2025
    Attendees: VT (video link). MD & KC (swanky hotel, London)
    Minutes taken by: SB

    VT presented the outcome of his review:
    - The manager didn't do what he promised he would
    - The players didn't stop the goals.
    - The players didn't shoot and score.

    Actions arising:
    - MD & KC to send VT names of 3 manager candidates (2 internal, 1 external). Usual criteria apply.
    - MD & KC to send VT YouTube videos of 2 players who stop goals, and 2 players who shoot and score.
    - SB to draw up some waffle to read out to FAB

    All sang "God save our gracious Tan" and VT left the meeting.

    Celebratory danish pastries and coffee served before the meeting closed at 11:15am

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    Re: So what happens now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crisp White Lines View Post
    Outcome of review published in minutes of meeting:

    11am on 25 July 2025
    Attendees: VT (video link). MD & KC (swanky hotel, London)
    Minutes taken by: SB

    VT presented the outcome of his review:
    - The manager didn't do what he promised he would
    - The players didn't stop the goals.
    - The players didn't shoot and score.

    Actions arising:
    - MD & KC to send VT names of 3 manager candidates (2 internal, 1 external). Usual criteria apply.
    - MD & KC to send VT YouTube videos of 2 players who stop goals, and 2 players who shoot and score.
    - SB to draw up some waffle to read out to FAB

    All sang "God save our gracious Tan" and VT left the meeting.

    Celebratory danish pastries and coffee served before the meeting closed at 11:15am
    Think youve may have allowed ten minutes too long for the meeting there.

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