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    Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...ports-31606510

    Is this common practice amongst clubs? Surely we should have someone internally who'd be able to draw up a shortlist.

    Looking them up they're an American company as well..

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...ports-31606510

    Is this common practice amongst clubs? Surely we should have someone internally who'd be able to draw up a shortlist.

    Looking them up they're an American company as well..
    Maybe theyll get us bob bradley?

    Ken choo said they used ex managers and agents when bulut was fired then borley told the FAB he couldnt comment on that as he wasnt there when ken said it. He did promise to clarify to the FAB but dont think he ever did.

    Wonder if hes aware of this?

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Whatever happened to putting a job advert in the classifieds, or agents contacting the club on behalf of their client. Why do we need an American company with global reach to find a manager for a 3rd tier club, with a bunch of directors who'd rather spend their day selling cars?

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Knew I'd seen that name recently:

    Winners of the Fan Engagement Award, sponsored by Wasserman Live

    Maybe a different company or some connection.

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Whatever happened to putting a job advert in the classifieds, or agents contacting the club on behalf of their client. Why do we need an American company with global reach to find a manager for a 3rd tier club, with a bunch of directors who'd rather spend their day selling cars?
    Exactly just put an ad in the western mail and be done with it.

    This is actually quite comical though. Particularly as all the names the agency come back with will be uninspiring again to Tan and we'll end with Darren purse.

    The club really don't have a clue. Nothing has changed. Why wasn't Ken choo sacked for a real CEO? Accept tan can't sack himself. Accept dalman has too much money tied up to be sacked but what's Ken choo got on them? A real CEO. That's all I ask for.

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    The demise of The Echo is haunting us, ‘situations vacant’ in the classified ads would have solved the problem.

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    The demise of The Echo is haunting us, ‘situations vacant’ in the classified ads would have solved the problem.
    Who would be the top three targets for Cardiff City as the new league manager in your opinion?

    That's all they will ask AI and come back with these recommendations and reasoning, 200K please.

    Chat GPT, needs to keep more up to date with whats going on.

    Grok

    Cardiff City, now set to compete in EFL League One for the 2025-26 season following relegation, needs a manager who can rebuild the squad, inspire promotion, and align with the club's financial and strategic constraints under owner Vincent Tan. The choice should balance proven success in lower-tier English football, tactical acumen, and the ability to work within Cardiff’s recruitment model, which emphasizes young talent and fiscal prudence. Here are my top three managerial targets, based on recent performance, availability, and fit for Cardiff’s current situation:

    Nathan Jones

    Why? Jones has a strong track record in League One, having led Charlton Athletic to a top-five finish in the 2024-25 season. His ability to organize teams defensively while fostering attacking flair makes him ideal for a promotion push. As a Cardiff fan, he understands the club’s culture and fanbase expectations. His experience at Luton Town, where he achieved promotion from League Two and stabilized them in League One, shows he can handle the third tier’s challenges.
    Fit for Cardiff: Jones’s high-pressing, energetic style suits a squad likely to rely on young, hungry players. His local ties could galvanize supporters, and his success with limited budgets aligns with Cardiff’s need for financial discipline.
    Challenges: Extracting him from Charlton could be costly, as he’s under contract, and Cardiff’s recent managerial instability might make him wary.

    Des Buckingham

    Why? Buckingham, currently available, has impressed with Oxford United, securing promotion from League One to the Championship in 2023-24. His modern, possession-based approach and ability to develop young players align with Cardiff’s recruitment strategy under Kevin Beadell, which focuses on youth. His experience in League One and knack for overachieving with modest resources make him a strong candidate.
    Fit for Cardiff: Buckingham’s tactical flexibility and emphasis on player development could maximize Cardiff’s existing talent, like Yousef Salech, while building a sustainable squad. His availability reduces costs, a key factor given Cardiff’s financial hit from relegation.
    Challenges: His relative lack of experience compared to Jones and limited exposure to high-pressure environments like Cardiff’s passionate fanbase could be a risk.


    Dave Challinor

    Why? Challinor has transformed Stockport County, winning the League Two title in 2023-24 and positioning them as League One promotion contenders in 2024-25 (third place as of May 2025). His direct, high-intensity style and ability to build cohesive teams on a budget make him a standout. His 2024-25 Stockport side is the second-highest scorer in League One, showing attacking prowess Cardiff desperately needs.
    Fit for Cardiff: Challinor’s proven success in League One and Two suggests he could deliver immediate results. His under-the-radar profile could mean a lower compensation fee than Jones, and his pragmatic approach suits a squad needing structure post-relegation.
    Challenges: Stockport’s ongoing success might make Challinor reluctant to leave mid-project, and his lack of Championship experience could raise doubts about his long-term fit if Cardiff aim for higher tiers.
    Honorable Mention: Rob Edwards (available, successful with Luton Town in League One) is a strong contender but may prefer a Championship role given his Premier League experience.

    Rationale: These choices prioritize League One expertise, as Cardiff’s immediate goal is promotion. Jones’s local connection and proven success edge him ahead, while Buckingham’s availability and modern approach make him a cost-effective, forward-thinking option. Challinor’s momentum with Stockport rounds out the list for his ability to deliver results in a competitive third tier. Cardiff’s board must act decisively, as fan frustration and Vincent Tan’s scrutiny demand a manager who can deliver both short-term wins and long-term stability.

    Gemini

    Based on the current situation and the information available, here are three potential top targets for Cardiff City as their new league manager:

    Des Buckingham: He is currently the bookmakers' favourite. Buckingham recently led Oxford United to promotion from League One, demonstrating his ability to achieve success in the lower leagues. While he was sacked by Oxford in December, his previous success and the fact that Cardiff City will be playing in League One next season after their relegation might make him an attractive option.

    Tommy Elphick: The current assistant manager at Premier League side Bournemouth has emerged as a strong candidate. While he lacks senior managerial experience, his connection to a successful Premier League club and the potential for a fresh perspective could be appealing to Cardiff City.

    Aaron Ramsey: Currently the interim manager, Ramsey is a club legend and has a deep connection with Cardiff City. While he has stated his desire to continue playing, his passion for the club and his recent experience in the dugout could make him a contender, especially if he performs well in the remaining games. A player-manager role, although uncommon, might also be considered.

    It's important to note that the actual decision will depend on various factors, including the club's ambitions, financial constraints, and the candidates' willingness to take on the challenge at Cardiff City following their relegation to League One. The club has also enlisted a leading sports agency to help draw up a shortlist of candidates, suggesting a thorough recruitment process is underway.

    Chat GPT

    Assuming Cardiff City is seeking a new manager for the Championship (or potentially League One) and aiming for promotion or stability, here are three realistic and strong candidates, based on track record, availability, and fit with the club’s culture and budget:

    1. Steve Cotterill
    Why: Experienced at stabilizing clubs and building strong squads on limited budgets.

    Track Record: Promotions with Bristol City and Cheltenham; excellent man-manager.

    Fit for Cardiff: Known for tough, disciplined sides—could instill structure and fight in the team.

    2. Nathan Jones
    Why: Proven Championship experience with Luton Town; knows how to overachieve with smaller squads.

    Track Record: Twice promoted with Luton, solid tactical mind, passionate and hands-on.

    Fit for Cardiff: Welsh-born, understands local expectations and could build a gritty, dynamic side.

    3. Leam Richardson
    Why: Highly regarded for work at Wigan Athletic under financial strain.

    Track Record: Led Wigan to League One title, good at fostering team spirit and defensive resilience.

    Fit for Cardiff: Could provide long-term project-building, fits well with rebuilding scenarios.

    Honourable Mentions:
    Chris Wilder – Great CV but may be out of reach or looking for a Premier League return.

    Karl Robinson – Good with young players, tactically flexible.

    Paul Warne – Consistent League One promotion specialist, currently at Derby (but could be tempted).

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    No one cares what Chat GPT has to say

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Remember when Tan and the club made a big thing about agents.

    We have a funny way of showing it as they must love us. How many other clubs would give agents money to do this? Its actually insane.

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Why don't they invite this message board to pick the next manager?

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Quote Originally Posted by Parti Mellow View Post
    Why don't they invite this message board to pick the next manager?
    Becaude Riza told them fans are clueless.

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    I think it's exactly the right move. They're hiring a successful, global company to hopefully end the club making the same mistakes they've been making for years. Hopefully, they can give Tan some branding advice too.

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    No one cares what Chat GPT has to say
    Tan might if it selects the next Manager via some fancy Sports agancy

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    No one cares what Chat GPT has to say
    THIS.

    there's nothing more tedious than a wall of text spewed out from one of these LLMs. I'd rather read a real person's terrible opinion than these computer approximations of one.

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Who would be the top three targets for Cardiff City as the new league manager in your opinion?

    That's all they will ask AI and come back with these recommendations and reasoning, 200K please.

    Chat GPT, needs to keep more up to date with whats going on.

    Grok

    Cardiff City, now set to compete in EFL League One for the 2025-26 season following relegation, needs a manager who can rebuild the squad, inspire promotion, and align with the club's financial and strategic constraints under owner Vincent Tan. The choice should balance proven success in lower-tier English football, tactical acumen, and the ability to work within Cardiff’s recruitment model, which emphasizes young talent and fiscal prudence. Here are my top three managerial targets, based on recent performance, availability, and fit for Cardiff’s current situation:

    Nathan Jones

    Why? Jones has a strong track record in League One, having led Charlton Athletic to a top-five finish in the 2024-25 season. His ability to organize teams defensively while fostering attacking flair makes him ideal for a promotion push. As a Cardiff fan, he understands the club’s culture and fanbase expectations. His experience at Luton Town, where he achieved promotion from League Two and stabilized them in League One, shows he can handle the third tier’s challenges.
    Fit for Cardiff: Jones’s high-pressing, energetic style suits a squad likely to rely on young, hungry players. His local ties could galvanize supporters, and his success with limited budgets aligns with Cardiff’s need for financial discipline.
    Challenges: Extracting him from Charlton could be costly, as he’s under contract, and Cardiff’s recent managerial instability might make him wary.

    Des Buckingham

    Why? Buckingham, currently available, has impressed with Oxford United, securing promotion from League One to the Championship in 2023-24. His modern, possession-based approach and ability to develop young players align with Cardiff’s recruitment strategy under Kevin Beadell, which focuses on youth. His experience in League One and knack for overachieving with modest resources make him a strong candidate.
    Fit for Cardiff: Buckingham’s tactical flexibility and emphasis on player development could maximize Cardiff’s existing talent, like Yousef Salech, while building a sustainable squad. His availability reduces costs, a key factor given Cardiff’s financial hit from relegation.
    Challenges: His relative lack of experience compared to Jones and limited exposure to high-pressure environments like Cardiff’s passionate fanbase could be a risk.


    Dave Challinor

    Why? Challinor has transformed Stockport County, winning the League Two title in 2023-24 and positioning them as League One promotion contenders in 2024-25 (third place as of May 2025). His direct, high-intensity style and ability to build cohesive teams on a budget make him a standout. His 2024-25 Stockport side is the second-highest scorer in League One, showing attacking prowess Cardiff desperately needs.
    Fit for Cardiff: Challinor’s proven success in League One and Two suggests he could deliver immediate results. His under-the-radar profile could mean a lower compensation fee than Jones, and his pragmatic approach suits a squad needing structure post-relegation.
    Challenges: Stockport’s ongoing success might make Challinor reluctant to leave mid-project, and his lack of Championship experience could raise doubts about his long-term fit if Cardiff aim for higher tiers.
    Honorable Mention: Rob Edwards (available, successful with Luton Town in League One) is a strong contender but may prefer a Championship role given his Premier League experience.

    Rationale: These choices prioritize League One expertise, as Cardiff’s immediate goal is promotion. Jones’s local connection and proven success edge him ahead, while Buckingham’s availability and modern approach make him a cost-effective, forward-thinking option. Challinor’s momentum with Stockport rounds out the list for his ability to deliver results in a competitive third tier. Cardiff’s board must act decisively, as fan frustration and Vincent Tan’s scrutiny demand a manager who can deliver both short-term wins and long-term stability.

    Gemini

    Based on the current situation and the information available, here are three potential top targets for Cardiff City as their new league manager:

    Des Buckingham: He is currently the bookmakers' favourite. Buckingham recently led Oxford United to promotion from League One, demonstrating his ability to achieve success in the lower leagues. While he was sacked by Oxford in December, his previous success and the fact that Cardiff City will be playing in League One next season after their relegation might make him an attractive option.

    Tommy Elphick: The current assistant manager at Premier League side Bournemouth has emerged as a strong candidate. While he lacks senior managerial experience, his connection to a successful Premier League club and the potential for a fresh perspective could be appealing to Cardiff City.

    Aaron Ramsey: Currently the interim manager, Ramsey is a club legend and has a deep connection with Cardiff City. While he has stated his desire to continue playing, his passion for the club and his recent experience in the dugout could make him a contender, especially if he performs well in the remaining games. A player-manager role, although uncommon, might also be considered.

    It's important to note that the actual decision will depend on various factors, including the club's ambitions, financial constraints, and the candidates' willingness to take on the challenge at Cardiff City following their relegation to League One. The club has also enlisted a leading sports agency to help draw up a shortlist of candidates, suggesting a thorough recruitment process is underway.

    Chat GPT

    Assuming Cardiff City is seeking a new manager for the Championship (or potentially League One) and aiming for promotion or stability, here are three realistic and strong candidates, based on track record, availability, and fit with the club’s culture and budget:

    1. Steve Cotterill
    Why: Experienced at stabilizing clubs and building strong squads on limited budgets.

    Track Record: Promotions with Bristol City and Cheltenham; excellent man-manager.

    Fit for Cardiff: Known for tough, disciplined sides—could instill structure and fight in the team.

    2. Nathan Jones
    Why: Proven Championship experience with Luton Town; knows how to overachieve with smaller squads.

    Track Record: Twice promoted with Luton, solid tactical mind, passionate and hands-on.

    Fit for Cardiff: Welsh-born, understands local expectations and could build a gritty, dynamic side.

    3. Leam Richardson
    Why: Highly regarded for work at Wigan Athletic under financial strain.

    Track Record: Led Wigan to League One title, good at fostering team spirit and defensive resilience.

    Fit for Cardiff: Could provide long-term project-building, fits well with rebuilding scenarios.

    Honourable Mentions:
    Chris Wilder – Great CV but may be out of reach or looking for a Premier League return.

    Karl Robinson – Good with young players, tactically flexible.

    Paul Warne – Consistent League One promotion specialist, currently at Derby (but could be tempted).
    You could have just read the betting odds and had the same names

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    THIS.

    there's nothing more tedious than a wall of text spewed out from one of these LLMs. I'd rather read a real person's terrible opinion than these computer approximations of one.
    Same, it's so dull. Type in a prompt, copy and paste, no thinking whatsoever

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    They'd have more luck throwing darts at names pinned to the dartboard while blindfolded.

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...ports-31606510

    Is this common practice amongst clubs? Surely we should have someone internally who'd be able to draw up a shortlist.

    Looking them up they're an American company as well..
    "The results are in Mr Tan and Im going to surprise you here, the most suitable candidate is one of our clients!"

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    On my old computer game Football Manager there was a top ten best scores, they could always call the top three in for an interview.

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Wasser occurring man.
    Cardiff city looking for a new manager.
    Cheap, likes free transfers and signs players who no one has ever heard of

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Interesting front runner for the Newport job. Would you want him here? I reckon we could definitely do worse.

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...s-new-31607568

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    THIS.

    there's nothing more tedious than a wall of text spewed out from one of these LLMs. I'd rather read a real person's terrible opinion than these computer approximations of one.
    North Cardiff Blue has plenty of those as well.

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Interesting front runner for the Newport job. Would you want him here? I reckon we could definitely do worse.

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...s-new-31607568
    Oh great another coach who specialises in academy and youth development level coaching and whos only experience of being the first team manager was 20 years ago at semi pro level:

    Sounds like RIZA mark 2 or in Countys case Rowberry mark 2.

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Interesting front runner for the Newport job. Would you want him here? I reckon we could definitely do worse.

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...s-new-31607568
    We obviously could do worse. But absolutely not.

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    Re: Cardiff City employ leading sports agency to draw up next manager shortlist

    "Wasserman have asked to whittle down candidates into a shortlist, based on the club's criteria, with their expertise largely targeted in Europe and in North America..."

    This should be fun. What do we reckon, 2 weeks to prepare shortlist, a week for Tan to sanction, another week to set up 1st interviews, another week to have 2nd interviews, another week for the club to decide to make offer, and assuming they accept that will take us to the latter part of June. Three weeks before the 1st league match..

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