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Thread: New manager speculation / rumours thread

  1. #26

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Absolute tool of a fella is Evatt

    Utterly despised at Bolton and makes Steve Morrison appear personable

  2. #27

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    he'd be the first Cardiff manager in years that I'd be welcoming as a good choice at the time of his appointment

    that's interesting considering how he likes to play football

    Wellens favours his teams to play attacking football, believing long ball and defensive minded football to not be suitable to long-term success. He cites former Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson as a major influence on his approach. Using a preferred formation of 4-2-3-1, Wellens likes his teams to play out from the back and be patient, Wellens likes his player to maintain a high level of intensity, even during training sessions

    If above is true basically carrying on what Bulut tried to adopt when he was here

    I notice he was on the short list for Manager of the season for League 1 being pipped by Chris Davies
    Think the bit about attacking football reveals a big difference between Wellens and Bulut - our former manager didn't mind playing attacking football in cup games or pre season friendlies, but we saw very little of it when there were league points at stake.

  3. #28

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    I find it significantly easier to analyse players than managers. You can see a players attributes and always have a backup. Very easy (as we've seen) to pick a dud.

    I can't see many managers dropping into League One so may end up being a punt on a up-and-comer from that division.

  4. #29

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Elphick is now 2-1 Fav

    Buckingham please no is 4-1 2nd fav

    Probably just a few speculative bets.

    I've got a horrible feeling its going to be Buckingham
    Out of curiosity why "please no" or "horrible feeling" for Des Buckingham?

    - Young but experienced manager
    - Very good track record
    - Proven (and very recent) experience of getting out of the league we're now in (with a team that hadn't been in the Championship for 25 years)
    - Controversially sacked with his team in 20th place (they ended up finishing 17th)

    Most people would say he'd be a fairly sound appointment?

  5. #30

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    I'm not a gambler. I hate it, but i've just put half a grand on Tony Bönjövi. He's an outsider i think could work for us .

  6. #31

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    Tommy Elphick currently the bookies favourite.
    https://www.bettingodds.com/thesackr...s/cardiff-city
    Was he the fella in 'Boon'?

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    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardiff Ultra View Post
    Was he the fella in 'Boon'?
    Are you taking the michael?

  8. #33

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Does it even matter who the manager is? One decent one in 12 years for the Tan regime and he was retirement age……

  9. #34

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    I've got a horrible feeling its going to be Buckingham
    Good to see you’ve finally moved on from grizzling about Darren Purse getting the job. 🤣

  10. #35

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Good to see you’ve finally moved on from grizzling about Darren Purse getting the job. 🤣
    🤣

  11. #36

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead View Post
    Out of curiosity why "please no" or "horrible feeling" for Des Buckingham?

    - Young but experienced manager
    - Very good track record
    - Proven (and very recent) experience of getting out of the league we're now in (with a team that hadn't been in the Championship for 25 years)
    - Controversially sacked with his team in 20th place (they ended up finishing 17th)

    Most people would say he'd be a fairly sound appointment?
    I havent looked into it too much but didn't Buckingham inherit Liam Mannings side who were already doing well when he left them.

    Then sacked a few months into the season and a old hand like Rowett improves them.

    I'm not at all convinced by Buckingham. Same with Rob Edwards though I'd prefer him over Buckingham.

    Anyway I want Warnock with Ramsey as head coach and Perry Ng made club captain so TLG can take over from me as chief grizzler.🤣

  12. #37

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardiff Ultra View Post
    Was he the fella in 'Boon'?
    Vinnie's a big fan of the show.

  13. #38

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    Vinnie's a big fan of the show.
    He’s certainly having a Rocky time here at the moment.

  14. #39

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    He’s certainly having a Rocky time here at the moment.
    Maybe he should get on his bike.

  15. #40

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    I havent looked into it too much but didn't Buckingham inherit Liam Mannings side who were already doing well when he left them.

    Then sacked a few months into the season and a old hand like Rowett improves them.

    I'm not at all convinced by Buckingham. Same with Rob Edwards though I'd prefer him over Buckingham.

    Anyway I want Warnock with Ramsey as head coach and Perry Ng made club captain so TLG can take over from me as chief grizzler.🤣
    He took over from Manning at the start of November (who himself hadn't been there long). So still a fair bit of work to do to get them up.

    I'm also skeptical if 20th to 17th is that much of an improvement, although it's a fair point.

    Also shouldn't discount that he's won titles and broken records with previously unsuccessful teams in smaller leagues. And apparently while playing attacking, fearless football.

    Regardless, any coach who can turn Mark Harris into a 20-goal a season striker must have something about them.

  16. #41

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Ramsey now cut again slightly and Elphick out slightly. Both 3-1. Buckingham unchanged at 4-1.

  17. #42

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Ramsey now cut again slightly and Elphick out slightly. Both 3-1. Buckingham unchanged at 4-1.
    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...x-man-31625074

  18. #43

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    In my dreams I get to pick the manager and my current short-list - all to be interviewed by me - has 4 names on it:

    Richie Wellens
    Dave Challinor
    Nathan Jones
    Ryan Giggs

    And 1 of those has to be our new manager. No one else!

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    New Manager recruitment process in place

    Got to be better than they've had in the past.

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...gn=communities

    Cardiff City hire ex-Man City and Rangers chief as Dalman reveals manager plan
    Bluebirds chairman Mehmet Dalman hopes the new recruitment process will ensure they get the right person in to lead a promotion charge.

    Cardiff City will appoint a new task force including former Manchester City academy director Mark Allen to whittle down a shortlist of manager contenders in the hope of appointing a new boss by the end of the month.

    The Bluebirds are looking for Omer Riza's permanent successor after he was sacked three games from the end of the season, with Aaron Ramsey taking over on an interim basis as City dropped into League One. Conversations are set to take place on Ramsey's own future, with no decision having yet been made.

    WalesOnline reported on Friday the club had engaged leading global sports agency Wasserman to provide the board with potential names to succeed Riza. While concerns were raised after the news emerged, it has been reiterated today that the search is by no means limited to only Wasserman clients.

    And now, the club are employing a new approach to add an extra filter in the process. Cardiff have created a sub-committee made up of Allen, head of academy Gavin Chesterfield and another external person, understood to be from Wasserman, to pour over the shortlist before presenting the board with a dozen viable candidates.

    Cardiff will then interview the concentrated shortlist of around six people before presenting their final recommendations to owner Vincent Tan in what chairman Mehmet Dalman hopes represents a rigorous, one-off recruitment process. Join the Cardiff City breaking news and top stories WhatsApp community

    “We need a new manager and we’ve got to get it right," Dalman said. "This is not one to take lightly if we are going to exploit the best of the talent we have. Personally, I’d like to see a proven manager who’s done this before and knows how to get the best out of the young and the experience players.

    "In terms of process, we’ve recruited a lot of managers in the past and we’ve got some right but got some wrong. This time we can’t take that risk so we’re putting in place a process where we’ll have globally-recognised sporting agents, Wasserman, working with us, not exclusively but they are driving the process of recommending potential managers to us.

    "On the board level, we’re creating a sub-committee on football, where two people will probably but not necessarily be appointed from the outside for the purpose of recruiting a manager.

    "We are making an internal appointment from the academy who has experience in football. They [sub-committee] will run the first round of interviews and I’m envisaging 30-odd applicants and that will be distilled down to about a dozen, then half a dozen. Then it becomes a board interview process and a final recommendation to the owner.”

    Dalman added that he hoped the final appointment would be made "within this month" and hoped to have the shortlist by "the beginning of next week".

    It's a radical approach which Dalman says is just a one-off for this managerial appointment. But he says, in an ideal world, he would want more football nous at board level.

    "Overall, I would say I would welcome more knowledge on football," he added. "After all, this is a football club and the more people it has who understand football the better it is. We’re striving towards that.”

    Who knows, perhaps if this experiment, with Allen's expertise in particular, is a success then Tan might see the benefit of having someone of that ilk at the club in a full-time capacity.

    Allen, 61, was appointed Swansea's director of football back in 2021, leaving in January 2023, but previously spent eight years as Manchester City's academy director and was also director of football at Scottish giants Rangers between 2017 and 2020. Most recently he held the sporting director role at Saudi club Al Ettifaq, where Steven Gerrard was manager, linking up with the Liverpudlian again after working together at Ibrox.

    The specialist recruitment team will have to distil a sizeable number of applicants before the shortlist is presented to the board.

    Importantly, Dalman believes this is an incredibly attractive job with a number of exciting and extremely talented young players, coupled with an excellent core of the squad, which should appeal to top candidates. Join the Cardiff City breaking news and top stories WhatsApp community.

    "I can't give you any names, but the interest is high," Dalman said of the manager search. "This is a big club, it's good to see it is attracting good names who are interested in taking on the challenge.

    "To be honest, there are too many names there for me and the board to distil and analyse and that's why this process will help us.

    "We will end up with two or three buckets, if you like, one will be for an experienced manager who has done this before, a bright, upcoming manager who will give us a longer-term (option) - and the club desperately needs that stability - and the third one is that we will look at some of the continental managers and go to a shortlist. We will then make a final decision."

    The club hope that, while stopping short of appointing a full-time director of football, this at least proves that they are willing to listen to fans' concerns and seek the counsel of experts and football people in order to get this crucial appointment right.

    "It's a filter and I think it will stop rash decisions being made. We will have independent, intellectual input," Dalman added.

    "I think it's a step in the direction and I hope people can understand that people are doing the best we can within the circumstances in which the board operates."

    Tan was Riza's major backer and the decision to leave him at the helm for so long ultimately sealed relegation. Following relegation, supporters' anger was rife and much of the criticism was laid at Tan's door for his inaction while the club slid towards a bottom-placed finish in the Championship.

    But Tan is keen to take on the new challenge of earning promotion out of League One and is still fully committed to the cause.

    "I don't speak for Vincent Tan. What I can say is I think some of the criticism is overdone and unfair," the Bluebirds chair added. "This is an owner who has got this club promoted twice into the Premier League for the first time in 56 years.

    "He has injected a substantial amount of funds in the club. In his statement, it was clear to me he wants to bounce back. On the other hand, he has always said 'Everything is for sale at the right price - except for family.'

    "As far as I am concerned, and I am having this discussion after a dialogue with him, I don't see anything else but his commitment to make sure we bounce back."

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    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Worcester View Post
    In my dreams I get to pick the manager and my current short-list - all to be interviewed by me - has 4 names on it:

    Richie Wellens
    Dave Challinor
    Nathan Jones
    Ryan Giggs

    And 1 of those has to be our new manager. No one else!
    Giggs or Jones would be interesting.

  21. #46

    Re: New Manager recruitment process in place

    At least there shouldn't be any duds on the shortlist.
    The only duds at that stage will be the ones conducting the interviews, with the successful candidate having to work under them, rather than a Sports Director or DofF.

    Am I being too critical?

  22. #47

    Re: New Manager recruitment process in place

    So no DOF then.

  23. #48

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Worcester View Post
    In my dreams I get to pick the manager and my current short-list - all to be interviewed by me - has 4 names on it:

    Richie Wellens
    Dave Challinor
    Nathan Jones
    Ryan Giggs

    And 1 of those has to be our new manager. No one else!
    Looking at track records achieving lower-league promotions , with comparatively modest budgets, it has to be Challinor for me.

  24. #49

    Re: Manager Linked -Richie Wellens

    With the short list to be next week I'd say it's unlikely to include those in work.

  25. #50

    Re: New Manager recruitment process in place

    It should be obvious we need more expertise at board level or in senior roles at the club. Not just hiring them in for a one off.

    Get them into the club and then we won't need to rent people to draw up shortlists.

    The added benefit of they can help the club day to day, full time. All for a fraction of Ramsey's reported wage ffs.

    Going from what dalman says it seems tan is still happy with the status quo

    He mentions it would be nice to have these people on board, surely it's clearly essential. Christ this is painful.

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