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Thread: Dragons to be culled from the league

  1. #26

    Re: Dragons to be culled from the league

    The WRU might be a bigger joke than Vincent Tan, which is saying something.

  2. #27

    Re: Dragons to be culled from the league

    Regions have been a disaster from the start, the WRU couldn’t wait to bury the Celtic Warriors and by doing so obliterate the valleys fanbase, the deluded idea that Pontypridd fans would buy into a region based in Cardiff and called The Blues, was as ludicrous as a merger between the Jacks and us called the Swans and playing at the Liberty. David Moffat was the original architect of the ill thought out concept of the current regions, Welsh rugby is reaping the chaos it has sown, I certainly won’t be shedding any tears for any of them.

  3. #28

    Re: Dragons to be culled from the league

    Read through this thread with interest. I don't follow rugby, but i obviously remember the old format in the 80s and 90s and we were shit then as well. Does anyone have any opinions on a solution? could the WRU scrap the regions and go back to the old system, while pumping money into the smaller clubs, almost manufacturing a good standard of play?

  4. #29

    Re: Dragons to be culled from the league

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Read through this thread with interest. I don't follow rugby, but i obviously remember the old format in the 80s and 90s and we were shit then as well. Does anyone have any opinions on a solution? could the WRU scrap the regions and go back to the old system, while pumping money into the smaller clubs, almost manufacturing a good standard of play?
    Cardiff, Swansea, and Newport, I suspect, will hire top barristers to fight the WRU in a legal battle of fair trade to join the English system.

  5. #30

    Re: Dragons to be culled from the league

    I'm confused why you all think it's the dragons being cut?

    They have signed the agreement so their funding is secure. So is cardiff. Scarletts and ospreys are the 2 regions who won't sign the agreement so this is just aimed at them to make them sign or they'll be merged.

    I suspect both will now sign and no regions will be cut.

  6. #31

    Re: Dragons to be culled from the league

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    Cardiff, Swansea, and Newport, I suspect, will hire top barristers to fight the WRU in a legal battle of fair trade to join the English system.
    World Rugby rules not the WRU.

  7. #32

    Re: Dragons to be culled from the league

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal View Post
    I'm confused why you all think it's the dragons being cut?

    They have signed the agreement so their funding is secure. So is cardiff. Scarletts and ospreys are the 2 regions who won't sign the agreement so this is just aimed at them to make them sign or they'll be merged.

    I suspect both will now sign and no regions will be cut.
    I agree.

    The O's most likely to go as was agreed with their merger with the Scarletts last year, only to pull out at the 11th hour.

    Don't own their own ground, no fans, Y11 want out.

  8. #33

    Re: Dragons to be culled from the league

    Quote Originally Posted by llan bluebird View Post

    The average league salary is £38K whilst in union its between £100k~£170K. So i believe thats the debate.
    Do you want average players getting paid at the expense of the better players who will go to England or France?
    I just read the League average salary is twice what you quoted.

  9. #34

    Re: Dragons to be culled from the league

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    I just read the League average salary is twice what you quoted.
    Didn't double-check my google search, it's AI.not sue of its validity



    In the Betfred Super League, the salary cap is currently frozen at £2.1 million for the fifth consecutive year. Super League clubs can also have up to three marquee players, with specific cap values depending on whether they are club-trained or federation-trained. The average salary for a rugby player in the UK is around £35,205 per year, with potential for additional compensation.
    Super League Salary Cap Details:
    Salary Cap: The Betfred Super League's salary cap is fixed at £2.1 million.
    Marquee Players: Clubs can have up to three marquee players, with different cap values depending on their training background:
    Club-trained: £50,000 on the salary cap.
    Federation-trained: £100,000 on the salary cap.
    Other Considerations: The rules also include provisions for player welfare and education, as well as excluding certain payments from the salary cap.
    Average Rugby Player Salary in the UK:
    Average Base Pay: The average base pay for a rugby player in the UK is around £38,331.
    Additional Cash Compensation: The average additional cash compensation is £4,774, with a range from £1,414 to £16,120.
    Salary Range: The base pay range is typically between £22K and £42K per year.
    Other Notable Points:
    Premiership Rugby:
    The Premiership Rugby website states that the 2024-25 Salary Cap is £6,400,000.
    Position-Specific Salaries:
    The Rugby Paper suggests that senior players in the Premiership earn around £113,000 to £175,000, with variations based on position.
    Longevity and Experience:
    Players with over 100 appearances can earn an average of £200,000, and those with over 50 international caps can earn an average of £320,000.

  10. #35

    Re: Dragons to be culled from the league

    Quote Originally Posted by llan bluebird View Post
    Didn't double-check my google search, it's AI.not sue of its validity



    In the Betfred Super League, the salary cap is currently frozen at £2.1 million for the fifth consecutive year. Super League clubs can also have up to three marquee players, with specific cap values depending on whether they are club-trained or federation-trained. The average salary for a rugby player in the UK is around £35,205 per year, with potential for additional compensation.
    Super League Salary Cap Details:
    Salary Cap: The Betfred Super League's salary cap is fixed at £2.1 million.
    Marquee Players: Clubs can have up to three marquee players, with different cap values depending on their training background:
    Club-trained: £50,000 on the salary cap.
    Federation-trained: £100,000 on the salary cap.
    Other Considerations: The rules also include provisions for player welfare and education, as well as excluding certain payments from the salary cap.
    Average Rugby Player Salary in the UK:
    Average Base Pay: The average base pay for a rugby player in the UK is around £38,331.
    Additional Cash Compensation: The average additional cash compensation is £4,774, with a range from £1,414 to £16,120.
    Salary Range: The base pay range is typically between £22K and £42K per year.
    Other Notable Points:
    Premiership Rugby:
    The Premiership Rugby website states that the 2024-25 Salary Cap is £6,400,000.
    Position-Specific Salaries:
    The Rugby Paper suggests that senior players in the Premiership earn around £113,000 to £175,000, with variations based on position.
    Longevity and Experience:
    Players with over 100 appearances can earn an average of £200,000, and those with over 50 international caps can earn an average of £320,000.
    Sorry, I wasn't expecting a full breakdown. I picked the double figure from a RL thread on Reddit so thats probably off.

    The Welsh teams cap is £2m less that the Premiership though.

  11. #36

    Re: Dragons to be culled from the league

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    Sorry, I wasn't expecting a full breakdown. I picked the double figure from a RL thread on Reddit so thats probably off.

    The Welsh teams cap is £2m less that the Premiership though.
    No worries the tab was still open

    I think we have been living beyond our means for 20 years relying on benifactors, its crazy.

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