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    'Derbies' next season

    Championship

    Southampton v Portsmouth
    Preston v Blackburn
    Norwich v Ipswich
    Coventry v Birmingham
    West Brom v Birmingham
    Swansea v Bristol City
    Charlton v Millwall
    Sheff Utd v Sheff Wed

    League 1

    Lots up North

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    Which club's fans do the least travelling?

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    Re: 'Derbies' next season

    Looking at that map, it would seem Northampton Town are conveniently located.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird View Post
    Championship

    Southampton v Portsmouth
    Preston v Blackburn
    Norwich v Ipswich
    Coventry v Birmingham
    West Brom v Birmingham
    Swansea v Bristol City
    Charlton v Millwall
    Sheff Utd v Sheff Wed

    League 1

    Lots up North



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    Which club's fans do the least travelling?
    Wonder which one the jacks' fans consider the bigger "derby" - Wrexham or Bristol City?

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    Swansea to Bristol is 80 miles

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    Re: 'Derbies' next season

    Quote Originally Posted by fugsyphil View Post
    Swansea to Bristol is 80 miles
    Not for the Jacks who live in Cardiff!

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    Re: 'Derbies' next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    Looking at that map, it would seem Northampton Town are conveniently located.
    Yes ... Birmingham had the least amount to travel last season.

    https://www.footballteamnews.com/tra...?tournament=46

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Wonder which one the jacks' fans consider the bigger "derby" - Wrexham or Bristol City?
    Let's be honest, Swansea v Wrexham isn't a derby at all, while Swansea v Bristol is barley a derby either.

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    Re: 'Derbies' next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    Looking at that map, it would seem Northampton Town are conveniently located.
    Season just ended:

    Premier League:
    Leicester City (172 miles) ... Newcastle (399 miles)

    Championship:
    Coventry City (182 miles) ... Plymouth (403 miles)

    League 1:
    Birmingham (156 miles) ... Crawley Town (262 miles)

    League 2:
    Crewe (169 miles) ... Bromley (316 miles)

    Time to regionalise below the Championship to save costs for fans, the clubs and the planet?

    Many more local derbies = bigger attendances = more revenue?

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    Lot of clubs close together on that League One map, but I wouldn't class many of them as derbies.

    Few rivalries in South Yorkshire by way of proximity, and I believe Bolton/Wigan has become a bit of a derby in recent years. There's also an argument for Bradford/Huddersfield (although if you have to argue it then it's not a proper derby IMO).

    But I think the only "recognised" derby would be Exeter/Plymouth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead View Post
    Lot of clubs close together on that League One map, but I wouldn't class many of them as derbies.

    Few rivalries in South Yorkshire by way of proximity, and I believe Bolton/Wigan has become a bit of a derby in recent years. There's also an argument for Bradford/Huddersfield (although if you have to argue it then it's not a proper derby IMO).

    But I think the only "recognised" derby would be Exeter/Plymouth?
    I've started to create a UK wide distance calculator for all the 92 plus those in the national league.

    What I found strange is that Portsmouth is closer to Cardiff than it is to Plymouth.

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    I wouldn’t say Coventry v Brum was a derby really.

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    Re: 'Derbies' next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Pontprennau Bluebird View Post
    I wouldn’t say Coventry v Brum was a derby really.
    My partner is from Coventry and some of her relatives have been Sky Blues since the Jimmy Hill days. They mostly say Leicester is their biggest derby (the M69 Derby), but even then it seems to be fairly low key to me.

    Their biggest rival (different from derby) seems to be Sunderland!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird View Post
    I've started to create a UK wide distance calculator for all the 92 plus those in the national league.

    What I found strange is that Portsmouth is closer to Cardiff than it is to Plymouth.
    What method did you use to measure mileage? As the crow flies or road miles?
    By the way, the reason I live in Taunton is that it was considered a logistical halfway house in being able to serve the naval bases at Plymouth and Portsmouth in the sixties..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    What method did you use to measure mileage? As the crow flies or road miles?
    By the way, the reason I live in Taunton is that it was considered a logistical halfway house in being able to serve the naval bases at Plymouth and Portsmouth in the sixties..
    Where in Taunton did you park your ship?

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    Re: 'Derbies' next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    What method did you use to measure mileage? As the crow flies or road miles?
    By the way, the reason I live in Taunton is that it was considered a logistical halfway house in being able to serve the naval bases at Plymouth and Portsmouth in the sixties..
    Either way Portsmouth is closer to Cardiff than Plymouth

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Wonder which one the jacks' fans consider the bigger "derby" - Wrexham or Bristol City?
    Whoever made that map doesn't seem to know that Charlton beat Orient on Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird View Post
    Championship

    Southampton v Portsmouth
    Preston v Blackburn
    Norwich v Ipswich
    Coventry v Birmingham
    West Brom v Birmingham
    Swansea v Bristol City
    Charlton v Millwall
    Sheff Utd v Sheff Wed

    League 1

    Lots up North

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    Which club's fans do the least travelling?
    Proper northern nightmare

    Swansea Bristol a Derby? That’s really grasping

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Where in Taunton did you park your ship?
    The boss of what was my employer is an Admiral. Not all Admirals have ships in every post they fill. And Taunton is the epicentre of global marine navigational charting, believe it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    The boss of what was my employer is an Admiral. Not all Admirals have ships in every post they fill. And Taunton is the epicentre of global navigational charting, believe it or not.
    I did not know that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardM View Post
    Either way Portsmouth is closer to Cardiff than Plymouth
    Indeed - but I wanted to know regarding the database as a whole.

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    Re: 'Derbies' next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    The boss of what was my employer is an Admiral. Not all Admirals have ships in every post they fill. And Taunton is the epicentre of global marine navigational charting, believe it or not.


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    Re: 'Derbies' next season

    The distances used are in kilometres (not miles as in my original post) and represent the actual travelling distance rather than 'as the crow flies'.

    Just checked AA route planner for Cardiff City Sadium to the Liberty Stadium. Distance = 42.8 miles (or 69 km) ... this is the same distance quoted on the site below.

    https://www.footballteamnews.com/tra...?tournament=45

    Pompey is 278 km (172 miles) from Plymouth
    Pompey is 257 km (160 miles) from Cardiff

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    Re: 'Derbies' next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird View Post
    Season just ended:

    Premier League:
    Leicester City (172 miles) ... Newcastle (399 miles)

    Championship:
    Coventry City (182 miles) ... Plymouth (403 miles)

    League 1:
    Birmingham (156 miles) ... Crawley Town (262 miles)

    League 2:
    Crewe (169 miles) ... Bromley (316 miles)

    Time to regionalise below the Championship to save costs for fans, the clubs and the planet?

    Many more local derbies = bigger attendances = more revenue?
    Edit:

    Distances quoted are actual travelling distances in kilometres (one way) rather than miles.

    Return trip from Cardiff to Plymouth would be 490 km (304 miles)

    Return trip from Sunderland to Plymouth would be 1304 km (810 miles) !!

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