Quote Originally Posted by HiVis View Post
The kneecap stance on Palestine isn't just that Israel's response has now gone way beyond what would be deemed to be proportionate, but that the state of Israel should not exist, and that terrorist organisations such as Hamas and Hezbollah are legitimate. Your open support of said terrorists is noted.

By the way, it it very easy to denounce Israel for their actions, and to also denounce Hamas etc at the same time. Its a warped world indeed where you believe the two are mutually exclusive.
You seem to have studied the words and thoughts of Kneecap more than me. It is not my specialist subject. But their headline stance of support for Palestinians and for a free and viable Palestine matches my view.

I also agree with them that the situation in Israel/Palestine did not start on 7 October 2023 - but goes back to at least the founding of the State of Israel in 1948 through terror, murder and the ethnic cleansing of over 700,000 Palestinians forced into refugee camps and never allowed to return.

The current form of the State of Israel - based on apartheid, settler-colonialism, systematic discrimination and white Jewish supremacy - is not one I support. I don't want to see a Zionist state. I don't want to see an Islamic state. I want to see a single democratic state with equal right for all citizens. I thought you were arguing for that too many years ago on this board? The compromise of a Two State solution is not viable without dismantling the Israeli expansion and land grabs since 1967. I think a single democratic state has become the more viable objective given the facts on the ground. That would mean a state of Israel/Palestine that was a safe home for both Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs. To get to that the current form of the State of Israel would have to not exist. That is the growing demand of large parts of Palestinian civil society and the diaspora, and also of a minority of Israeli Jews who have rejected the Zionist project.

I have denounced the Hamas atrocities in October 2023, and the Hamas repression in Gaza, many times. I haven't noticed you coming out against genocide, though. Maybe when you have finished noting 'your open support of said terrorists' (whatever you think that means) you will get around to it. But I won't hold my breath!