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Thread: New manager speculation / rumours thread

  1. #226

    Re: New manager speculation / rumours thread

    Quote Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead View Post
    This, for me, is the single biggest reason why Riza failed and we got relegated. Spent most of the time "playing in boxes", switching formations, and trying to show the world what a progressive coach he was when we should have been going back to basics and doing the simple things right to try and win points.

    People can talk about pace or needing players who can do X, Y or Z, but this is the single most important thing we need to address this summer IMO.
    It’s only at Cardiff where you go from having a squad of big, technically limited, long ball orientated, physical battlers with a fetish for set pieces that were moderately successful, but getting worse through the full 180 degrees to arrive at being precious, “after you”, bottlers, capable of occasionally playing “nice” football, who are a soft touch at set pieces and generally lack the strength to fight their way out of a wet paper bag without thinking to stop off somewhere in between those two complete contrasts.

  2. #227
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    The priority is pace, pace and more pace.
    Yup, you cannot legislate against pace. A manager can have his defence well-drilled, but pace will always open them up.
    When was the last time we had someone with real pace....Josh Murphy/ NML?
    Our problem has been we've just relied on a single speed merchant, rather than having 3-4 seriously fast players in the team together.

  3. #228

    Re: New manager speculation / rumours thread

    Quote Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead View Post
    This, for me, is the single biggest reason why Riza failed and we got relegated. Spent most of the time "playing in boxes", switching formations, and trying to show the world what a progressive coach he was when we should have been going back to basics and doing the simple things right to try and win points.

    People can talk about pace or needing players who can do X, Y or Z, but this is the single most important thing we need to address this summer IMO.
    For Riza add Bulut and Ramsey. The club and it's recruitment appear to have deliberately moved from bringing in the pragmatic, industrious and strong player that formed the cornerstone of City's squad for several years. Ironically, just as the club is making a concerted effort to be as delightfully pattern-weaving as possible, the football world has started to return to a more direct, counter-attacking culture with speed and strength at the core.

  4. #229

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    Barry Murphy now odds on again 4-7

    Buckingham 11-8.

    Ramsey 8-1

    Evatt 10-1.

  5. #230

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Barry Murphy now odds on again 4-7

    Buckingham 11-8.

    Ramsey 8-1

    Evatt 10-1.
    I know that you're dead against Des Buckingham, But he's had an intereting career to date, did really well in New Zealand across all age groups nationally and at club level. And he's got a 1980s self employed Driving instructors name, what's not to like

  6. #231

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    For Riza add Bulut and Ramsey. The club and it's recruitment appear to have deliberately moved from bringing in the pragmatic, industrious and strong player that formed the cornerstone of City's squad for several years. Ironically, just as the club is making a concerted effort to be as delightfully pattern-weaving as possible, the football world has started to return to a more direct, counter-attacking culture with speed and strength at the core.
    Sean Dyche was talking about this the other week on Gary Neville's podcast. For the last 10 years, clubs everywhere have tried to copy Pep Guardiola's approach, but they're now starting to realise that it doesn't work unless your Man City and you have the players - and budget - to make it work. And even then, opponents can get something if they're disciplined, sit deep, and don't press.

    Chasing that style of play is only going to be counterintuitive for us. The key is to be able to mix things up. Play from the back when the opportunity is there, but don't be afraid to be direct and turn opponents quickly. That requires coaching players to think critically and assess each situation on its merit, as opposed to playing like a robot in a system. And it seems like modern coaches don't want to do that, because they see Vincent Kompany landing the Bayern job even though his team got relegated.

    As Dyche said, if I was an owner and I asked a potential coach what his philosophy is, the only answer I'd be looking for is a simple one: to win.

  7. #232

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I know that you're dead against Des Buckingham, But he's had an intereting career to date, did really well in New Zealand across all age groups nationally and at club level. And he's got a 1980s self employed Driving instructors name, what's not to like
    He also turned Josh Murphy's career around

  8. #233

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    He also turned Josh Murphy's career around
    Did he or did Liam Manning?

    How much of Oxfords success was down to Buckingham. He was sacked after about a year. They were 2nd when Manning left and he took over. They went up through the play offs.

    Rowett also turned around Oxford pretty quickly when Buckingham was relieved of duties.

    We are probably going cheap. He may get it. If he does lets hope he is a good coach who Oxford were foolish to let go.

    Otherwise Tuertos mate may get his wish and it will Ramasut to get his chance in November.🤣

  9. #234

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    Looks like Plymouth losing their manager. They will still hire a new one before us.

  10. #235

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    Looks like Plymouth losing their manager. They will still hire a new one before us.
    He wasn't bad actually, I'd take him here. Rooney was the problem at Plymouth.

  11. #236

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    Looks like Plymouth losing their manager. They will still hire a new one before us.
    Gone to Shalke

  12. #237

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    It’s only at Cardiff where you go from having a squad of big, technically limited, long ball orientated, physical battlers with a fetish for set pieces that were moderately successful, but getting worse through the full 180 degrees to arrive at being precious, “after you”, bottlers, capable of occasionally playing “nice” football, who are a soft touch at set pieces and generally lack the strength to fight their way out of a wet paper bag without thinking to stop off somewhere in between those two complete contrasts.
    This could prove to be a big problem next season in League 1, where the players will have to battle and "win the right to play".

    I don't know anything about the type of football we will have to face next year, so I am basing that on some of the comments from contributors on here. However, I can imagine that there are a lot of honest footballers who have to fight every week to earn their money.

  13. #238

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    The 10-1 on Evatt has gone.

    Latest Barry-Murphy evens

    Buckingham 2-1

    Evatt 7-2

    Ramsey 8-1

  14. #239

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfSiamIAm View Post
    This could prove to be a big problem next season in League 1, where the players will have to battle and "win the right to play".

    I don't know anything about the type of football we will have to face next year, so I am basing that on some of the comments from contributors on here. However, I can imagine that there are a lot of honest footballers who have to fight every week to earn their money.
    Based off what the League 1 playoffs showed, the drop off in standard is monumental.


    Our squad now should be more than good enough for a top 10 finish.

  15. #240

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Did he or did Liam Manning?

    How much of Oxfords success was down to Buckingham. He was sacked after about a year. They were 2nd when Manning left and he took over. They went up through the play offs.

    Rowett also turned around Oxford pretty quickly when Buckingham was relieved of duties.

    We are probably going cheap. He may get it. If he does lets hope he is a good coach who Oxford were foolish to let go.

    Otherwise Tuertos mate may get his wish and it will Ramasut to get his chance in November.��
    What a good post. Hadn't thought of this.

  16. #241

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Kaiser View Post
    Based off what the League 1 playoffs showed, the drop off in standard is monumental.


    Our squad now should be more than good enough for a top 10 finish.
    Talent is not enough in this league. You need fight as well. Our team as it stands is bang in trouble as this lot lack any sort of fight.

  17. #242

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad View Post
    Talent is not enough in this league. You need fight as well. Our team as it stands is bang in trouble as this lot lack any sort of fight.
    Sadly this is bang on the money, most of the current bunch lack any bottle, I can’t remember a time in all my years of following the City where we have seen such a collection of players who were so gutless!

    There’s zero fight in a lot of them, no passion and mainly they don’t give a toss

    Some of these clowns will be looking to their agents to get them out and onto another gravy train somewhere else

    First thing they should be doing is looking at the table to see where we finished, they won’t as they couldn’t care less

    In league one, most of them would get kicked off the park, we need a manager who can identify the 4-5 battlers we’re desperately going to need to hold our own in this league

  18. #243

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    Vitor Campelos whoever he is has now entered the betting at 7/2.

  19. #244

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Vitor Campelos whoever he is has now entered the betting at 7/2.
    Don`t know if someone at the club has leaked some stuff out (again) but a couple of things to consider

    1. In the published minutes of the May 2025 FAB meeting with the club, Chair Mehmet Dalman states that he would like a couple of continental managers to be on the shortlist to be our new manager.

    2.According to Wikipedia, Campelos says he was 99% certain he was going to join us as manager when he was managing Chaves in Portugal but Vincent Tan chose someone else - strong hint of another example of ignoring professional football expertise?

  20. #245

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    Campelos sounds like Bulut 2.0. Going to be another guy they dupe into taking the poisoned chalice for their leadership because the British managers know to avoid Tan/demand more money for a harder job.

    Tan and the Cardiff brass undoubtedly have a reputation locally. But on a European scale, not as much.

  21. #246

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Vitor Campelos whoever he is has now entered the betting at 7/2.
    Born in the city where we won a European trophy

  22. #247

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Born in the city where we won a European trophy
    Algavre Cup?

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    Re: New manager speculation / rumours thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninian1962 View Post
    Algavre Cup?
    The glory days!

  24. #249

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad View Post
    Talent is not enough in this league. You need fight as well. Our team as it stands is bang in trouble as this lot lack any sort of fight.
    Sorry, would have to disagree. There's **** all talent in League 1 to begin with, and the 2 most 'talented' teams went up automatically this season, even if they spent a bucket load between them.

  25. #250

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    Other forum on "a very good source" is claiming Buckingham has been selected. Could be bogus of course, as they can often get things wrong.

    He'd have probably been my second choice behind Selles, seems like probably the best choice we could agree upon and the best out of that final batch of names (him, Evatt, Murphy, Ramsey). I'll back this appointment, Oxford were pretty upset to see him go.

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