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Thread: New manager speculation / rumours thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by PontBlue View Post
    Only 60 days until the start of the new season. Will we have a manager in place by then?
    I think we’ll have a new manager and sacked him by then

  2. #352

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    Jack Wilshere the front runner for the Plymouth job

    I wonder if he was 1 of the 100 initial alleged applicants for us !

  3. #353

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    Jim Goodwin now 12/1 Dundee managed, not noticed him previously in the odds

  4. #354

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    Well, according to the other place we've been pursuing Jones throughout but Charlton's severance valuation increased upon promotion to around Ł4.5m incl. back up staff. Tan wanted to pay over 5 years but Charlton insisted all up front.

    The mind boggles at what the club's back-up plan is, if this is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Well, according to the other place we've been pursuing Jones throughout but Charlton's severance valuation increased upon promotion to around Ł4.5m incl. back up staff. Tan wanted to pay over 5 years but Charlton insisted all up front.

    The mind boggles at what the club's back-up plan is, if this is true.
    If true, that is crazy money for us to be paying.

  6. #356

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    I know the club gets criticised for shopping in the yellow sticker section of the market, but I'm not sure why, now we're a lower league club, we need to go out on a limb for someone of this stature (especially as he's likely to be sacked in a year). There are other options if we're looking for a short term fix. Also, if we're going to pay 4.5M (ish) can't we look for something better and long-term? Answer: probably not.

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    Re: New manager speculation / rumours thread

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Well, according to the other place we've been pursuing Jones throughout but Charlton's severance valuation increased upon promotion to around Ł4.5m incl. back up staff. Tan wanted to pay over 5 years but Charlton insisted all up front.

    The mind boggles at what the club's back-up plan is, if this is true.
    I honestly don't understand why anyone would believe that ITK posts on a message board (whichever one) have anything to do with truth. There was a time long, long ago when the club had a Deep Throat and an association with ice-cream lickers, but that is no longer the case.

    From what I can see most of these posts (and the fee or salary figures that are also sprayed around) come from pure sad-kid-in-a-bedroom wind ups on the net, from people like Abbandonato or Witcoop who need to appear relevant and connected (even when the quality of their so-called information is often shit) and from home grown posters who need attention and think they are bound to get it right one day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I honestly don't understand why anyone would believe that ITK posts on a message board (whichever one) have anything to do with truth. There was a time long, long ago when the club had a Deep Throat and an association with ice-cream lickers, but that is no longer the case.

    From what I can see most of these posts (and the fee or salary figures that are also sprayed around) come from pure sad-kid-in-a-bedroom wind ups on the net, from people like Abbandonato or Witcoop who need to appear relevant and connected (even when the quality of their so-called information is often shit) and from home grown posters who need attention and think they are bound to get it right one day!
    Yep overwhelming majority of it is clearly bollocks, a small percentage are agents pushing their own agendas, an equally small amount then may actually have some level of truth.

    It's quite easy to look like you know something, just hedge your bets across four or five different managers and then sing from the rooftops when one of them comes in.

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    Re: New manager speculation / rumours thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NottinghamBlue View Post
    If true, that is crazy money for us to be paying.
    Its almost certainly not true

  10. #360

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    Well, according to the other place we've been pursuing Jones throughout but Charlton's severance valuation increased upon promotion to around Ł4.5m incl. back up staff. Tan wanted to pay over 5 years but Char


    lton insisted all up front.

    The mind boggles at what the club's back-up plan is, if this is true.
    Of course its not true.

    Same as Buckingham wasn't our new manager a few days ago.

  11. #361

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    Leave it 5 months and we could get NJ for nothing. Football is fickle a bad start and he could get the chop

  12. #362

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    Elsewhere Liam Manning is the new Norwich manager.

    And Ryan Mason is the new West Brom manager.

    not that I'm bothered with football at a higher level

  13. #363

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    Leave it 5 months and we could get NJ for nothing. Football is fickle a bad start and he could get the chop
    We could have had him for nothing two years ago when. we appointed Bulut.

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    Well, they've managed it. Incredibly, Cardiff City have now taken longer to sort out the manager situation in the summer of 2025 than they did in 2023 and 2024 when we appointed Bulut on 3 /6/23 and it was confirmed he'd signed his new contract on the same day last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Well, they've managed it. Incredibly, Cardiff City have now taken longer to sort out the manager situation in the summer of 2025 than they did in 2023 and 2024 when we appointed Bulut on 3 /6/23 and it was confirmed he'd signed his new contract on the same day last year.
    Can you imagine if Amazon Prime had commissioned a 'Welcome to Cardiff' series a couple of years ago. It would have been comedy gold with Tan, Dalman, Choo, Bulut, Riza ringing up fans, an insight to the workings of our recruitment team, the interviews, the chasing of unwilling managers, the list is endless. If only..

  16. #366

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Can you imagine if Amazon Prime had commissioned a 'Welcome to Cardiff' series a couple of years ago. It would have been comedy gold with Tan, Dalman, Choo, Bulut, Riza ringing up fans, an insight to the workings of our recruitment team, the interviews, the chasing of unwilling managers, the list is endless. If only..
    It's cruel, but my favourite one out of those fly on the wall documentaries about football clubs is still the Sunderland one because it's about failure. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that way, so one about City would be very appealing to a certain type of fan I'm sure.

    Funny you mention unwilling managers, here's the latest odds with a very close race going on for first place;-

    https://www.bettingodds.com/thesackr...s/cardiff-city

    When I first saw the page I linked, the thought did cross my mind "how many of those really want the job"? I'm sure Buckingham did, but I've seen it said that the pursuit of Nathan Jones made it clear to him that he was a second choice for the job and so who could blame him if he opted for one of the other jobs he's been linked with (e.g. Plymouth or Notts County)? Ramsey wants to keep on playing we're told and, a;though Jones has spoken in the past about his desire to manage City one day, his only public comment I'm aware of since Charlton were promoted is one saying he will be staying with them.

    I've maintained for years that there are plenty of good managers who would not work for Tan and it seems to me that the number is probably growing given how we acted after sacking Bulut and now after sacking Riza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    It's cruel, but my favourite one out of those fly on the wall documentaries about football clubs is still the Sunderland one because it's about failure. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that way, so one about City would be very appealing to a certain type of fan I'm sure.

    Funny you mention unwilling managers, here's the latest odds with a very close race going on for first place;-

    https://www.bettingodds.com/thesackr...s/cardiff-city

    When I first saw the page I linked, the thought did cross my mind "how many of those really want the job"? I'm sure Buckingham did, but I've seen it said that the pursuit of Nathan Jones made it clear to him that he was a second choice for the job and so who could blame him if he opted for one of the other jobs he's been linked with (e.g. Plymouth or Notts County)? Ramsey wants to keep on playing we're told and, a;though Jones has spoken in the past about his desire to manage City one day, his only public comment I'm aware of since Charlton were promoted is one saying he will be staying with them.

    I've maintained for years that there are plenty of good managers who would not work for Tan and it seems to me that the number is probably growing given how we acted after sacking Bulut and now after sacking Riza.
    On the flip side, there are only 92 positions available, and some ex managers will be in a strong financial position where they can afford to wait and pick and choose their next position.

    Lots of others won’t, and will see it as an opportunity where they can get back into day to day football and raise their profile

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    Re: New manager speculation / rumours thread

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    It's cruel, but my favourite one out of those fly on the wall documentaries about football clubs is still the Sunderland one because it's about failure. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that way, so one about City would be very appealing to a certain type of fan I'm sure.

    Funny you mention unwilling managers, here's the latest odds with a very close race going on for first place;-

    https://www.bettingodds.com/thesackr...s/cardiff-city

    When I first saw the page I linked, the thought did cross my mind "how many of those really want the job"? I'm sure Buckingham did, but I've seen it said that the pursuit of Nathan Jones made it clear to him that he was a second choice for the job and so who could blame him if he opted for one of the other jobs he's been linked with (e.g. Plymouth or Notts County)? Ramsey wants to keep on playing we're told and, a;though Jones has spoken in the past about his desire to manage City one day, his only public comment I'm aware of since Charlton were promoted is one saying he will be staying with them.

    I've maintained for years that there are plenty of good managers who would not work for Tan and it seems to me that the number is probably growing given how we acted after sacking Bulut and now after sacking Riza.
    He's an outsider for Plymouth, it looks like they much more higher targets than we did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    He's an outsider for Plymouth, it looks like they much more higher targets than we did.
    https://www.oddschecker.com/football...manent-manager

    I wouldn't have said that really

  20. #370

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    Was funny typical city, then just became boring, now it's beyond ridiculous.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Plymouth, having been actually caught out by their manager leaving a month after ours still manage to do a proper recruitment process and hire someone before us.

    We will eventually hire someone, probably being allowed to bring one or two staff with him and that will be our structure change complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    It wouldn't surprise me if Plymouth, having been actually caught out by their manager leaving a month after ours still manage to do a proper recruitment process and hire someone before us.
    I wouldn't be surprised if Bristol City, who lost their manager yesterday, hire someone before us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    He's moved up a bit, but there have been four or more bove him all the time and Wilshire has been favourite all of the time, here it looks like he's 2nd choice here.

    People panic here, I really don't think he will be Plymouths Manager.

  23. #373

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    This is turning into quite the race between the manager announcement, new kit announcement and fixture release announcement.

  24. #374

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Kaiser View Post
    This is turning into quite the race between the manager announcement, new kit announcement and fixture release announcement.
    Maybe we aren't giving the club enough credit, maybe the new manager is in place but they are going to have him modelling the new kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Kaiser View Post
    This is turning into quite the race between the manager announcement, new kit announcement and fixture release announcement.
    You forgot the retained list.

    It's laughable really. The supposed scrutiny and attention to detail, not to mention hours of meticulous analysis and consultation time to identify a person who is in all probability going to be in place for 2 years at most..

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