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Before and after Trump, eh?
After the commies came to town you mean?Originally Posted by jon1959
Oh dear. You're not even pretending any more are you?
Oh dear. You're not even pretending any more are you?
They say the UK is always 5 years behind the US, so you might get to find out for yourself?Oh dear. You're not even pretending any more are you?
Need to get some palm trees planted if Barry Island is to resemble Santa Monica in 5 years time
What we forecasting in 5 years time for here?
Reform in government, snatch squads carrying out deportations and Farage sending the TAs into Oldham?
Your heart doesn’t seem to be in it any more when it comes to Trump, not like it was during his first term.
New rules from the CCMB massive
Trumps California
Bidens Gaza
Bidens Ukraine
Is this how it works ?
Yes….. No….. Maybe…. What is the question?
Feels like we're not that far from worldwide unrest and riots
Trump and the protesters deserve each other. Trump whipping it up with talks of insurrection(how very ironic). Morons on the street protesting/rioting while carrying mexican flags, as if they are determined to play up to the 'dangerous invaders' tag that trump has put on them. Can't see this ending well.
I understand that California is a state and is governed at state level by it's governor and it's mayor, you have attributed the current problems to Trump using your meme, I've not seen him, looting, firebombing, throwing bricks at cars etc. etc so am wondering how blame apportion works, I do think you were getting at it's because Trump is the current president so I looked at Ukraine and it kicked off under Bidens presidency same for Gaza. Is this how it works ?
Hope you understand the question now? It would appear to me from the outside looking in and when you add in the appalling way the California mis handled their resent water problems, and fire problems, the California state government has quite a bit to answer for ????? Edit, and the high speed rail fiasco ,😂
I was just giving Gluey a bit of political froth and banter back. He was obviously fishing and it felt rude not to have a nibble.
However thanks for the clarification re states and federal government. Now I know the state governor controls and directs ICE and the other agencies that provoked the riots I may have to have a re-think.
Biden certainly has a very long charge sheet - but when it comes to Ukraine and Gaza he’s neck and neck with Trump (both terms) when it comes to rewarding murderous autocrats, excusing genocide and undermining the last vestiges of international law!
I was being mischievous of course, I think I got off lightly, I was expecting a right bollocking from you 😂😂😂
I feel similarly, but with a little bit of sympathy for the protestors. Trump and his vociferous, flagrant ineptitude is what has created this, so I don't begrudge the people of LA, as well as across the US for being pissed off at their country playing footsie with potential fascism. Whether or not Trump is or isn't a fascist isn't relevant to me because the fact is, he's getting far too close to it for it to be comfortable for my liking, and as such, I don't blame people for taking a stand against him. As much as I despise Starmer and the current Labour government, I can say with confidence that they aren't a fascist regime, but merely pawns of neoliberal hyper-capitalism. It's like comparing a D- essay to someone taking a shit on the paper and presenting it as their essay.
The US is a failed state and brought it upon itself with its inability to accept criticism through its bombast arrogance.
Hasn't he just nipped a riot in the bud? Isn't that what we praised Starmer for last summer?
Why should the looting of shops etc be tolerated and violence against officers doing their job?
Of course there is politics at play, there's issues of precedence and state rights but putting that aside most will be glad to not see the city burning. This week at least.
Not for the first time, I find these comparisons to fascism absolutely absurd.
Great post! 👍
I’m a proponent of Hispanic people finding a quick path to legalization and then citizenship.
In my experience they are lovely and work a ton harder than anyone I know is capable of.
They have been hugely maligned due to a small minority of gangbangers.
My beef is with the radical left/antifa or whatever you want to call its involvement.
Palestine flags present just show that it is hijacked people determined to attack the west and using this unrest as another tool.
It could be BLM and there will be some twat there wearing a keffiyeh.
It’s nothing to do with Latinos for these people just a battle against Western Civilization.
No better than the January 6th rioters.
Remember how the links between Trump and Epstein had become a talking point last week? No one’s talking about them now are they.
I find it absurd that you have spent the last few years denying the possibility that we’re seeing instances of fascism in the USA and certain countries in Europe.
It looks like the Los Angeles Mayor is also playing footsie with potential fascism.
But there is a huge problem with Western values. There's no point ignoring it.
I should imagine the first point is to do with various defamation laws, I don't know. I do know that his opponents would have done anything to stop him running for president last year, so who knows.
On the second point, it's all cherry picking. Fascism isn't a handful of examples, it's a comprehensive totalitarian system. Taking individual examples, there's examples of "fascism" in almost any country, especially in terms of quelling riots.
This isn't fascism. It's politics. Between political opponents. It's more akin to the COVID rows between Wales/Scotland and Westminster a few years ago.
I do understand the point people are trying to mak, I just think it's a massive overreach
You’re being proved wrong on this - watch the first ten minutes of this and listen to the 14 signs of fascism as defined by a politically neutral organization as far as I’m aware. It’s beyond argument now that Trump ticks the boxes on 70-80 % of those 14 points.
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