Rob Phillips and Jason Perry.

[the other bob wilson]

Thought you might be interested in reading this summary, which was sent out to members yesterday, of what the pair of them had to say at the Trust AGM;

“ What a thoroughly entertaining evening we had with Bluebirds legend Jason Perry and ex-BBC Wales commentator, Rob Phillips following the Trust's AGM.
And it's fair to say there was a fair amount of disagreement between the two on many of the topics raised at our roadshow at the Cardiff City Stadium.
There were a huge range of issues discussed: from the new manager and structure of the club, through to our prospects in League One and chat about Rubin Colwill and Aaron Ramsey.
Looking back at the previous season, Jason said: "At the start of the season the squad was not good enough. Individually, they are not bad players but it's about playing as a team. You need certain characters in the dressing room – players like Sol Bamba or Junior Hoilett. Who is there in the present squad?"
He said that as the season proceeded it was "obvious we would be relegated".
"This club also needs to be pulled together. The only way to do that is to fix the structure. It is all wrong. Who is there to help the head coach (Brian Barry-Murphy)."
Rob Phillips added: "If you were going for form a football club you wouldn't set it up the way it is here. There needs to be a director of football."
On the forthcoming League One season, Jason warned: "It is going to be tough. Teams play very differently – some are tippy tappy, others sit back, some go direct. It is going to be relentless and players have to take responsibility."
Both stressed that it was a big season for Rubin Colwill and both were largely unimpressed by his overall performances last season. Jason argued it would have been beneficial for his development if Rubin had been loaned out, possibly twice . "Unfortunately, he can't run beyond and can't last for 90 minutes."
Jason also pointed to Alex Robertson. "We were told 'what a player he is' but he couldn't get on the ball. We could not stretch teams. We need players to disrupt."
Both Jason and Rob defended the decision to bring in Aaron Ramsey, even though he was plagued by injury during his two seasons. "In the season before he came to Cardiff he played more games (for Nice) than he had since his Arsenal days. Injuries happen," said Rob. "Any Championship club would have taken him."
Rob said that he did not think a takeover of the club was on the horizon. "At the moment Vincent Tan is still very committed and continues to put money into the club."
Both argued that relegation to League One for the first time for more than 20 years should be a catalyst for a total revamp of the higher echelons of the club and putting in a football structure suitable for 2025 but warned it "might not happen."
Jason said: "It is difficult to come to evenings like this – I feel it is like rewind and play every season. If you are negative about the club it is because you care. I don't like searching for negatives and I'm desperate for a great season."
He said that despite his many concerns about the way the club was structured he would be 100% behind the head coach despite reservations.”

[tforturton]

A lot of fans are reluctant to knock players (such as Colwill or Robertson), probably because they’re afraid of getting shot down, or called ‘negative’. Interesting to hear the likes of Perry and Phillips speaking up.

[Tuerto]

I completely agree with what Perry has said in the write up by Bob. As much as the management structure, coaching structure and ownership method (if indeed there is any) is the stuff of a knock off market stall, it's a fact that the players let the club and the fans down, and most importantly they let themselves down, they're the ones who have to have a few 'Honest' moments and look at their performances, willingness, desire, decision making and reaction out on the field of play. I can honestly say that this lot were feeble, ran out of ideas as soon as the opposition sussed the same old tired plan, yet this group of players continued to make the same mistake, take the wrong options, there wasn't an ounce of responsibility from them, to me, they're shithouses in the way they were relegated.

Something else that i feel needs to be taken into account is the general presumption that just because we are playing at a lower level, this group will look better, they'll find their form, show their ability and true worth. That is nonsense in my opinion. The majority of this group have been on the slide for dome time, some quicker than others. If i was going to be polite over some of the player then i'd say that individuals have hit a wall, but in truth i don't believe they even deserve that excuse. As fan, we can sometime act presumptuously in thinking that players are going to improve, especially at a lower level, not so, they may have peaked, and i believe that for a lot of the players, i can't see where the improvement is going to come from, none of them (apart from Salech) showed us last season that we have something to work with, that they could learn, think in the moment.

I Hope that the new coach, manager has a clear vision of what he wants, i hope that he brings in hungry enthusiastic footballers who want to win and who want to learn. And i really do hope that he doesn't persevere with the same old players week after week when they're not showing us enough of what should be expected. As fans we are too soft in my opinion, we hang on and hang on in the hope that a player or group of players somehow come good. I'd say this, they have had ample opportunity and the majority of them have failed, how much more do we have to see?

[Cleve van Leef]

I completely agree with what Perry has said in the write up by Bob. As much as the management structure, coaching structure and ownership method (if indeed there is any) is the stuff of a knock off market stall, it's a fact that the players let the club and the fans down, and most importantly they let themselves down, they're the ones who have to have a few 'Honest' moments and look at their performances, willingness, desire, decision making and reaction out on the field of play. I can honestly say that this lot were feeble, ran out of ideas as soon as the opposition sussed the same old tired plan, yet this group of players continued to make the same mistake, take the wrong options, there wasn't an ounce of responsibility from them, to me, they're shithouses in the way they were relegated.

Something else that i feel needs to be taken into account is the general presumption that just because we are playing at a lower level, this group will look better, they'll find their form, show their ability and true worth. That is nonsense in my opinion. The majority of this group have been on the slide for dome time, some quicker than others. If i was going to be polite over some of the player then i'd say that individuals have hit a wall, but in truth i don't believe they even deserve that excuse. As fan, we can sometime act presumptuously in thinking that players are going to improve, especially at a lower level, not so, they may have peaked, and i believe that for a lot of the players, i can't see where the improvement is going to come from, none of them (apart from Salech) showed us last season that we have something to work with, that they could learn, think in the moment.

I Hope that the new coach, manager has a clear vision of what he wants, i hope that he brings in hungry enthusiastic footballers who want to win and who want to learn. And i really do hope that he doesn't persevere with the same old players week after week when they're not showing us enough of what should be expected. As fans we are too soft in my opinion, we hang on and hang on in the hope that a player or group of players somehow come good. I'd say this, they have had ample opportunity and the majority of them have failed, how much more do we have to see?

[dandywarhol]

When I saw the topic,I thought oh no don't tell me Rob Phillips and Jason Perry have been added to the coaching staff.