Kneecap

[the other bob wilson]

On my last shindig in Belfast on sale were 'Proud to be Proddy' assorted crap.

I'm not sure it's the derogatory term you feel it is?

Bob Vylan, I'd imagine could be getting a knock on the door.

Don'y you mean a knock on Heaven's door?

[the other bob wilson]

There's not an elephant in the room when it comes to the Kneecap/Bob Vylan furore, there's a blue whale

https://x.com/JerryHicksUnite/status...23964913688802

I think it went too far on Saturday, but there's a reason why people are so angry.

[stevo]

It looks like wishing death upon a genocidal army is a hate crime now.

https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/...ing-death-upon

[HiVis]

I've mentioned before I don't like my favorite bands bleating on about politics on stage, this guy intentionally was getting some notoriety and he's succeeded his words were awful but there is a but for me on this, the politicians of the UK, America, Europe have failed a race of people who have been slaughtered all of my adult life when and how does this stop? If our politicians basically turn a blind eye to it, if British justice is to remain consistent, the guy should do some porridge but the issue is more important than this, an apology to the Jewish people but not the Jewish leadership inc. their security forces should suffice in this instance.

There are ways of saying our politicians have failed without calling for the killing of anyone.

[Dorcus]

Don'y you mean a knock on Heaven's door?

The times, they are a'changin.

[Dorcus]

It looks like wishing death upon a genocidal army is a hate crime now.

https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/...ing-death-upon

There's no ethics left in the World. Pragmatism will be the end of all morality.

[Dorcus]

I just listened to Lisa Nandy's diatribe in the Commons today....WTF! This is nothing less than mind control!

[jon1959]

Bob Vylan statement today:

TODAY, A GOOD MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE A PUNK BAND IS THE NUMBER ONE THREAT TO WORLD PEACE. LAST WEEK IT WAS A PALESTINE PRESSURE GROUP, THE WEEK BEFORE THAT IT WAS ANOTHER BAND.

WE ARE NOT FOR THE DEATH OF JEWS, ARABS OR ANY OTHER RACE OR GROUP OF PEOPLE. WE ARE FOR THE DISMANTLING OF A VIOLENT MILITARY MACHINE. A MACHINE WHOSE OWN SOLDIERS WERE TOLD TO USE 'UNNECESSARY LETHAL FORCE AGAINST INNOCENT CIVILIANS WAITING FOR AID. A MACHINE THAT HAS DESTROYED MUCH OF GAZA.

WE, LIKE THOSE IN THE SPOTLIGHT BEFORE US, ARE NOT THE STORY. WE ARE A DISTRACTION FROM THE STORY. AND WHATEVER SANCTIONS WE RECEIVE WILL BE A DISTRACTION.

THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT US TO ASK WHY THEY REMAIN SILENT IN THE FACE OF THIS ATROCITY? TO ASK WHY THEY AREN'T DOING MORE TO STOP THE KILLING? TO FEED THE STARVING?

THE MORE TIME THEY TALK ABOUT BOB VYLAN, THE LESS TIME THEY SPEND ANSWERING FOR THEIR CRIMINAL INACTION.

WE ARE BEING TARGETED FOR SPEAKING UP. WE ARE NOT THE FIRST. WE WILL NOT BE THE LAST. AND IF YOU CARE FOR THE SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH, WE URGE YOU TO SPEAK UP, TOO.

https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/...genocidal-army

[Dorcus]

Bob Vylan statement today:

TODAY, A GOOD MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE A PUNK BAND IS THE NUMBER ONE THREAT TO WORLD PEACE. LAST WEEK IT WAS A PALESTINE PRESSURE GROUP, THE WEEK BEFORE THAT IT WAS ANOTHER BAND.

WE ARE NOT FOR THE DEATH OF JEWS, ARABS OR ANY OTHER RACE OR GROUP OF PEOPLE. WE ARE FOR THE DISMANTLING OF A VIOLENT MILITARY MACHINE. A MACHINE WHOSE OWN SOLDIERS WERE TOLD TO USE 'UNNECESSARY LETHAL FORCE AGAINST INNOCENT CIVILIANS WAITING FOR AID. A MACHINE THAT HAS DESTROYED MUCH OF GAZA.

WE, LIKE THOSE IN THE SPOTLIGHT BEFORE US, ARE NOT THE STORY. WE ARE A DISTRACTION FROM THE STORY. AND WHATEVER SANCTIONS WE RECEIVE WILL BE A DISTRACTION.

THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT US TO ASK WHY THEY REMAIN SILENT IN THE FACE OF THIS ATROCITY? TO ASK WHY THEY AREN'T DOING MORE TO STOP THE KILLING? TO FEED THE STARVING?

THE MORE TIME THEY TALK ABOUT BOB VYLAN, THE LESS TIME THEY SPEND ANSWERING FOR THEIR CRIMINAL INACTION.

WE ARE BEING TARGETED FOR SPEAKING UP. WE ARE NOT THE FIRST. WE WILL NOT BE THE LAST. AND IF YOU CARE FOR THE SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH, WE URGE YOU TO SPEAK UP, TOO.

https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/...genocidal-army

Respect 👍

[jeepster]

Bob Vylan statement today:

TODAY, A GOOD MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE A PUNK BAND IS THE NUMBER ONE THREAT TO WORLD PEACE. LAST WEEK IT WAS A PALESTINE PRESSURE GROUP, THE WEEK BEFORE THAT IT WAS ANOTHER BAND.

WE ARE NOT FOR THE DEATH OF JEWS, ARABS OR ANY OTHER RACE OR GROUP OF PEOPLE. WE ARE FOR THE DISMANTLING OF A VIOLENT MILITARY MACHINE. A MACHINE WHOSE OWN SOLDIERS WERE TOLD TO USE 'UNNECESSARY LETHAL FORCE AGAINST INNOCENT CIVILIANS WAITING FOR AID. A MACHINE THAT HAS DESTROYED MUCH OF GAZA.

WE, LIKE THOSE IN THE SPOTLIGHT BEFORE US, ARE NOT THE STORY. WE ARE A DISTRACTION FROM THE STORY. AND WHATEVER SANCTIONS WE RECEIVE WILL BE A DISTRACTION.

THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT US TO ASK WHY THEY REMAIN SILENT IN THE FACE OF THIS ATROCITY? TO ASK WHY THEY AREN'T DOING MORE TO STOP THE KILLING? TO FEED THE STARVING?

THE MORE TIME THEY TALK ABOUT BOB VYLAN, THE LESS TIME THEY SPEND ANSWERING FOR THEIR CRIMINAL INACTION.

WE ARE BEING TARGETED FOR SPEAKING UP. WE ARE NOT THE FIRST. WE WILL NOT BE THE LAST. AND IF YOU CARE FOR THE SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH, WE URGE YOU TO SPEAK UP, TOO.

https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/...genocidal-army

So true

[JamesWales]

Straw man argument. No one thinks a punk band is the world's greatest threat to peace.

But most normal people don't want band and crowds chanting death to people.

When you have to lie at the start of the statement it undermines the rest of it.

Or perhaps some of you can point to where anyone thinks they are the greatest threat to world peace?

[Wales-Bales]

I heard the bloke with the balaclava is about 60 years old!

[JamesWales]

I heard the bloke with the balaclava is about 60 years old!

He's just cold okay. Stop criticising him you colonialist.

[Hilts]

If bands had been prominent in the late 30s would anti nazi chants been treated with the same outrage

[JamesWales]

If bands had been prominent in the late 30s would anti nazi chants been treated with the same outrage

The Nazis would have been in the crowd chanting along with the death calls.

[Coyote]

Bob Vylan statement today:

TODAY, A GOOD MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE A PUNK BAND IS THE NUMBER ONE THREAT TO WORLD PEACE. LAST WEEK IT WAS A PALESTINE PRESSURE GROUP, THE WEEK BEFORE THAT IT WAS ANOTHER BAND.

WE ARE NOT FOR THE DEATH OF JEWS, ARABS OR ANY OTHER RACE OR GROUP OF PEOPLE. WE ARE FOR THE DISMANTLING OF A VIOLENT MILITARY MACHINE. A MACHINE WHOSE OWN SOLDIERS WERE TOLD TO USE 'UNNECESSARY LETHAL FORCE AGAINST INNOCENT CIVILIANS WAITING FOR AID. A MACHINE THAT HAS DESTROYED MUCH OF GAZA.

WE, LIKE THOSE IN THE SPOTLIGHT BEFORE US, ARE NOT THE STORY. WE ARE A DISTRACTION FROM THE STORY. AND WHATEVER SANCTIONS WE RECEIVE WILL BE A DISTRACTION.

THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT US TO ASK WHY THEY REMAIN SILENT IN THE FACE OF THIS ATROCITY? TO ASK WHY THEY AREN'T DOING MORE TO STOP THE KILLING? TO FEED THE STARVING?

THE MORE TIME THEY TALK ABOUT BOB VYLAN, THE LESS TIME THEY SPEND ANSWERING FOR THEIR CRIMINAL INACTION.

WE ARE BEING TARGETED FOR SPEAKING UP. WE ARE NOT THE FIRST. WE WILL NOT BE THE LAST. AND IF YOU CARE FOR THE SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH, WE URGE YOU TO SPEAK UP, TOO.

https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/...genocidal-army

Excellent statement.

[HiVis]

we have the usual issue that most people cannot understand two or more things can be true simultaneously.

should the IDF cease its genocidal activities in Gaza? yes

Should the UK government do more to put pressure on Israel? Yes

Should we have laws to stop hate speech, such as calling for the death of individual(S) or specific groups? Yes

Bob Vylan are irrelevant anyway, ****ing dire music. Its better to bring the discussion back to their attempt at entertaining rather than their misplaced calls for the killing of others.

[Dorcus]

we have the usual issue that most people cannot understand two or more things can be true simultaneously.

should the IDF cease its genocidal activities in Gaza? yes

Should the UK government do more to put pressure on Israel? Yes

Should we have laws to stop hate speech, such as calling for the death of individual(S) or specific groups? Yes

Bob Vylan are irrelevant anyway, ****ing dire music. Its better to bring the discussion back to their attempt at entertaining rather than their misplaced calls for the killing of others.

I agree with all your propositions and maybe Bob should be prosecuted for a hate speech. However, in the interests of freedom, shouldn't the BBC have a duty to transmit the incident so that people could make up their own minds up about it,? Anything else is political censorship and that doesn't bode well.

[HiVis]

I agree with all your propositions and maybe Bob should be prosecuted for a hate speech. However, in the interests of freedom, shouldn't the BBC have a duty to transmit the incident so that people could make up their own minds up about it,? Anything else is political censorship and that doesn't bode well.

there are laws against broadcasters broadcasting hate speech....however if they were to include this on the news, they may get away with it.

in this day and age, it won't be long before this is all over social media, so the Beeb have no need to show it, as we'll all see it anyway (if you've not already seen it).

When the mad mullahs chant death to the infidels, we take it seriously and make reference to extreme points of view. I'm not sure why this would be any different, its just reversed.

There are ways and means of promoting your viewpoint and making it clear our government are complicit, and the Israeli state and the IDF have a lot to answer for.