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    Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Thought the ban on her was completely wrong, but, it’s so 2025 that the grifters have now started to come out of the woodwork to try to cash in on the situation.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/25...ght-fraudster/

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    What happened to her and the publicity surrounding it, IMO will only push more youngsters into the grip of the grifter in chief Mr. Farage and with Two Tiers plans for 16 + being able to vote, I dont think he will get as many of them as he thinks. This is an own goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Thought the ban on her was completely wrong, but, itÂ’s so 2025 that the grifters have now started to come out of the woodwork to try to cash in on the situation.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/25...ght-fraudster/
    The idiot from Swansea and his fat buddy are an embarrassment

    As is fat boy marsh from barry who also jumps on any nonsense like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Thought the ban on her was completely wrong, but, it’s so 2025 that the grifters have now started to come out of the woodwork to try to cash in on the situation.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/25...ght-fraudster/
    Lock 'er up!

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    The “ban” on her was only wrong in the sense that the school took the bait rather than rising above. The father used her like a puppet for his own agenda. Who lets their 12 year old daughter appear at a Tommy Robinson rally?

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    The story here is the girl who was sent home for wearing something that reflected her culture in her own country. It's completely wrong, the school handled it actually incredibly badly and it does point to a wider picture of a society that is increasingly fragmented and where people feel there are different rules for different groups. That's very dangerous

    The National is a Scottish nationalist propaganda sheet. They will steer any story to be pro independence, anti Britain, even when it involves a young girl being unfairly sent home from school.

    I agree that raising money for her is jumping on the bandwagon, but that's what happens now in these things. Raising money for "victims" in political cases happens all the time, rightly or wrongly.

    No doubt if the girl was sent home for wearing a Saltire dress then The National would be the ones sharing the fund raising page.

    It's a sad story for those involved, it shouldn't happen and that's it basically, IMO at least.

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    The story here is the girl who was sent home for wearing something that reflected her culture in her own country. It's completely wrong, the school handled it actually incredibly badly and it does point to a wider picture of a society that is increasingly fragmented and where people feel there are different rules for different groups. That's very dangerous

    The National is a Scottish nationalist propaganda sheet. They will steer any story to be pro independence, anti Britain, even when it involves a young girl being unfairly sent home from school.

    I agree that raising money for her is jumping on the bandwagon, but that's what happens now in these things. Raising money for "victims" in political cases happens all the time, rightly or wrongly.

    No doubt if the girl was sent home for wearing a Saltire dress then The National would be the ones sharing the fund raising page.

    It's a sad story for those involved, it shouldn't happen and that's it basically, IMO at least.
    The story is that the kids were encouraged to wear “traditional dress”. Now I don’t know about you, but I’ve never considered an even more OTT version of a geri haliwell dress to be traditional British dress. I’ve never seen anyone wearing one, and I’ve never seen evidence of our ancestors walking about in them. However, the school well and truly took the bait that was laid by this girls father.

    IÂ’m not sure how to share but if you take a look at the video of her staged announcement of performing at Tommy Robinsons rally (itÂ’s on his x feed), you should see it for what it is. SheÂ’s her fatherÂ’s puppet and this sort of thing is as dangerous as any other radicalisation.

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    The story is that the kids were encouraged to wear “traditional dress”. Now I don’t know about you, but I’ve never considered an even more OTT version of a geri haliwell dress to be traditional British dress. I’ve never seen anyone wearing one, and I’ve never seen evidence of our ancestors walking about in them. However, the school well and truly took the bait that was laid by this girls father.

    IÂ’m not sure how to share but if you take a look at the video of her staged announcement of performing at Tommy Robinsons rally (itÂ’s on his x feed), you should see it for what it is. SheÂ’s her fatherÂ’s puppet and this sort of thing is as dangerous as any other radicalisation.
    The story is that a girl was sent home for wearing a dress that represented her heritage and it shouldn't have happened.

    Your response here is the kind of reason it happened and the kind of reason people are drawn to Tommy Robinson.

    It was wrong, it shouldn't have happened, the school apologized. Stop making a political point of it. Learn from it!

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    The story is that a girl was sent home for wearing a dress that represented her heritage and it shouldn't have happened.

    Your response here is the kind of reason it happened and the kind of reason people are drawn to Tommy Robinson.

    It was wrong, it shouldn't have happened, the school apologized. Stop making a political point of it. Learn from it!
    I donÂ’t think itÂ’s me making a political point from the little girl, James, but people choose to see things how they choose to see things.

    IÂ’m not sure people are drawn towards Tommy Robinson because IÂ’ve said that the 12 year old is now performing by invite in front of a crowd of racists in September

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    The story here is the girl who was sent home for wearing something that reflected her culture in her own country. It's completely wrong, the school handled it actually incredibly badly and it does point to a wider picture of a society that is increasingly fragmented and where people feel there are different rules for different groups. That's very dangerous

    The National is a Scottish nationalist propaganda sheet. They will steer any story to be pro independence, anti Britain, even when it involves a young girl being unfairly sent home from school.

    I agree that raising money for her is jumping on the bandwagon, but that's what happens now in these things. Raising money for "victims" in political cases happens all the time, rightly or wrongly.

    No doubt if the girl was sent home for wearing a Saltire dress then The National would be the ones sharing the fund raising page.

    It's a sad story for those involved, it shouldn't happen and that's it basically, IMO at least.
    And there goes James, gaslighting for Wales again.

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    The story is that a girl was sent home for wearing a dress that represented her heritage and it shouldn't have happened.

    Your response here is the kind of reason it happened and the kind of reason people are drawn to Tommy Robinson.

    It was wrong, it shouldn't have happened, the school apologized. Stop making a political point of it. Learn from it!
    This is neo nazis JW , it couldnt be any more political !

    Google the background of the Welsh guy involved in the fund raising ....hes a fascist

    As is his friend from Barry who most people remember from his cardiff city supporting days !

    You are sunk if you think otherwise and on dodgy ground

    Wind you neck in

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Neo nazis , those idiots from swansea are vermin

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    The story is that a girl was sent home for wearing a dress that represented her heritage and it shouldn't have happened.

    Your response here is the kind of reason it happened and the kind of reason people are drawn to Tommy Robinson.

    It was wrong, it shouldn't have happened, the school apologized. Stop making a political point of it. Learn from it!
    This is neo nazis JW , it couldnt be any more political !

    Google the background of the Welsh guy involved in the fund raising ....hes a fascist

    As is his friend from Barry who most people remember from his cardiff city supporting days !

    You are sunk if you think otherwise and on dodgy ground

    Wind you neck in

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Neo-nazis, vermin, fascists, gaslighting, all the rest of it. Give me a break.

    The school apologized. It shouldn't have happened.

    Its so plainly obvious that it shouldn't have happened that I struggle to believe you can't see it. If you really can't see how policies like that, and the way they handled it will only create a far more divided society, and serve to push people right-wards then you really do need to think again, as that's all that will happen.

    I do see why others such as Scottish nationalist newspapers, right-wing campaigners, left-wing campaigners and the like want to make more (or less) of it, but that's politics. Always happened.

    It should not have happened.

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Neo-nazis, vermin, fascists, gaslighting, all the rest of it. Give me a break.

    The school apologized. It shouldn't have happened.

    Its so plainly obvious that it shouldn't have happened that I struggle to believe you can't see it. If you really can't see how policies like that, and the way they handled it will only create a far more divided society, and serve to push people right-wards then you really do need to think again, as that's all that will happen.

    I do see why others such as Scottish nationalist newspapers, right-wing campaigners, left-wing campaigners and the like want to make more (or less) of it, but that's politics. Always happened.

    It should not have happened.
    You are way out of your depth here , you have absolutely no idea about what's going on in your own back yard

    The father of this girl is a far right activist who knows the idiots who set up the crowd funding

    Its a fit up

    The idiots who have set up the crowd funding are a pain in the arse to most swansea city fans and have been peddling this neo nazi nonsense for years , ably supported by patriotic alternative , run by an ex cardiff city loner from barry who spends his day making videos and leafletting neo nazi stuff

    And eating pies

    These people have as much interest in national costume as I do in 18th century classical music

    They are racist agitators and by you stupidly falling for the stunt you are doing all the homework for these morons

    Now sort yourself out ff sake

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    The story is that a girl was sent home for wearing a dress that represented her heritage and it shouldn't have happened.

    Your response here is the kind of reason it happened and the kind of reason people are drawn to Tommy Robinson.

    It was wrong, it shouldn't have happened, the school apologized. Stop making a political point of it. Learn from it!
    https://hopenothate.org.uk/2024/04/3...n-south-wales/

    These idiots and others are what's behind all this

    And your yeah but no nonsense is defending their twisted workings

    Sort yourself out its embarrassing

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    https://hopenothate.org.uk/2024/04/3...n-south-wales/

    These idiots and others are what's behind all this

    And your yeah but no nonsense is defending their twisted workings

    Sort yourself out its embarrassing
    Literally no one is coming to you for balance on this topic because on the subject of a girl being removed from school you start talking about the Nazis. Any topic...Nazis.

    The school apologized to her. The PM has even commented She was removed from class and sent home for wearing a union flag dress.

    People like you and your reaction to this are why people are attracted to people like Tommy Robinson.

    Just admit, it shouldn't have happened. It never should have got close to happening.

    If there's more to it then the school would not be profusely apologising.

    The school in question:

    “learning from this experience and ensuring that every student feels recognised and supported when expressing pride in their heritage”.

    "We deeply regret the distress this has caused and offer our sincere and unreserved apologies. We have since spoken directly with the pupil and her family to listen to their concerns and reflect on how this could have been handled better. We are committed to learning from this experience and ensuring that every student feels recognised and supported when expressing pride in their heritage.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...ture-day-rugby

    Sludge:

    Nazis! Fascists! Nazis!

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Literally no one is coming to you for balance on this topic because on the subject of a girl being removed from school you start talking about the Nazis. Any topic...Nazis.

    The school apologized to her. The PM has even commented She was removed from class and sent home for wearing a union flag dress.

    People like you and your reaction to this are why people are attracted to people like Tommy Robinson.

    Just admit, it shouldn't have happened. It never should have got close to happening.

    If there's more to it then the school would not be profusely apologising.

    The school in question:

    “learning from this experience and ensuring that every student feels recognised and supported when expressing pride in their heritage”.

    "We deeply regret the distress this has caused and offer our sincere and unreserved apologies. We have since spoken directly with the pupil and her family to listen to their concerns and reflect on how this could have been handled better. We are committed to learning from this experience and ensuring that every student feels recognised and supported when expressing pride in their heritage.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...ture-day-rugby

    Sludge:

    Nazis! Fascists! Nazis!
    IÂ’d imagine the school apology is as staged as the faux outrage of the father. They were baited, took said bait and then presumably tried/failed to stop this becoming the story it has.

    Do you think itÂ’s the normal reaction of a good parent, when their 12 year old child has been sent home from school for the way they were dressed, to sign them up to perform in front of thousands of racists in London?

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Literally no one is coming to you for balance on this topic because on the subject of a girl being removed from school you start talking about the Nazis. Any topic...Nazis.

    The school apologized to her. The PM has even commented She was removed from class and sent home for wearing a union flag dress.

    People like you and your reaction to this are why people are attracted to people like Tommy Robinson.

    Just admit, it shouldn't have happened. It never should have got close to happening.

    If there's more to it then the school would not be profusely apologising.

    The school in question:

    “learning from this experience and ensuring that every student feels recognised and supported when expressing pride in their heritage”.

    "We deeply regret the distress this has caused and offer our sincere and unreserved apologies. We have since spoken directly with the pupil and her family to listen to their concerns and reflect on how this could have been handled better. We are committed to learning from this experience and ensuring that every student feels recognised and supported when expressing pride in their heritage.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...ture-day-rugby

    Sludge:

    Nazis! Fascists! Nazis!
    You really are an asshole at times

    These people are neo nazis

    And you are playing the fiddle for them

    When it all kicks off locally with these vermin you will be sat at home

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    IÂ’d imagine the school apology is as staged as the faux outrage of the father. They were baited, took said bait and then presumably tried/failed to stop this becoming the story it has.

    Do you think itÂ’s the normal reaction of a good parent, when their 12 year old child has been sent home from school for the way they were dressed, to sign them up to perform in front of thousands of racists in London?
    No. If that's happens. The father absolutely should not do that, even if it is because he things they are showing his daughter more supprot. But the bigger story, and the reasons thousands will be there (if true) is that it absolutely should NOT be any schools policy to be promoting some cultures over others and then sending kids away for representing their own culture. This isn't the 1970s now. In many schools white British kids are the minority so fairness is critical

    We are a proud multicultural society. It's critical that things like that are pushed back against because it's such policies (and the inevitable reaction from Tommy Robinson etc) that are chipping away at any hope of cohesion. But you have to understand and acknowledge the original issue and the problem with that policy and action.

    We should take the schools apology at face value

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    No. If that's happens. The father absolutely should not do that, even if it is because he things they are showing his daughter more supprot. But the bigger story, and the reasons thousands will be there (if true) is that it absolutely should NOT be any schools policy to be promoting some cultures over others and then sending kids away for representing their own culture. This isn't the 1970s now. In many schools white British kids are the minority so fairness is critical

    We are a proud multicultural society. It's critical that things like that are pushed back against because it's such policies (and the inevitable reaction from Tommy Robinson etc) that are chipping away at any hope of cohesion. But you have to understand and acknowledge the original issue and the problem with that policy and action.

    We should take the schools apology at face value
    It is happening, James. There’s a video on the patriot fathers twitter feed (take a look, it’s interesting reading on there). “Bigstueeee”. I don’t think he’s a stranger to the right, he’s not leaning over because shes “getting more support”. Her attendance is also confirmed on Tommy’s feed.

    It’s odd that he himself says more rumours about him online come from his 21 year old daughters friends, but I’m sure that’s another story.

    I absolutely get your point that every culture should be celebrated and if this was a case of someone being left out for trying to celebrate being British I’d get that.

    It’s not. It’s a fabricated situation by someone who is grooming their daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    It is happening, James. There’s a video on the patriot fathers twitter feed (take a look, it’s interesting reading on there). “Bigstueeee”. I don’t think he’s a stranger to the right, he’s not leaning over because shes “getting more support”. Her attendance is also confirmed on Tommy’s feed.

    ItÂ’s odd that he himself says more rumours about him online come from his 21 year old daughters friends, but IÂ’m sure thatÂ’s another story.

    I absolutely get your point that every culture should be celebrated and if this was a case of someone being left out for trying to celebrate being British IÂ’d get that.

    ItÂ’s not. ItÂ’s a fabricated situation by someone who is grooming their daughter.
    Of course it is

    Poor kid is literally reading from an autocard there

    Our politeness and our humour 😀.......yes the far right are well known for that ...." We want our country back ! " ....as they throw missiles at coppers protecting immigrant hotels .....smiling along as they break the law and frighten people

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    It is happening, James. There’s a video on the patriot fathers twitter feed (take a look, it’s interesting reading on there). “Bigstueeee”. I don’t think he’s a stranger to the right, he’s not leaning over because shes “getting more support”. Her attendance is also confirmed on Tommy’s feed.

    It’s odd that he himself says more rumours about him online come from his 21 year old daughters friends, but I’m sure that’s another story.

    I absolutely get your point that every culture should be celebrated and if this was a case of someone being left out for trying to celebrate being British I’d get that.

    It’s not. It’s a fabricated situation by someone who is grooming their daughter.
    I think we are probably closer to agreeing on what is and isn't right here than what initially seems. But the original sin here is the school. And it's happening across the UK and it's driving us apart.

    Let's celebrate culture. Let's not put one above another and let's learn from each other. The school, following a twisted vision of inclusion that actually excludes has entirely created this situation. I don't greatly care about the dads politics. I do know, and care, that the more stuff like this happens the more people will turn to the right more than the left.

    It's utterly unacceptable to put some cultures above others and to have sent this girl home. Thats it off me. The rest is an inevitable and in all honesty understandable consequence.

    Im proudly Welsh and British. If this had happened to my daughter for wearing a union jack top I would be listening to those showing sympathy and to understanding and that isn't the likes of Sludge droning on about Gernan parties from the 1940s.

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    Re: Girl in Union Jack dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I think we are probably closer to agreeing on what is and isn't right here than what initially seems. But the original sin here is the school. And it's happening across the UK and it's driving us apart.

    Let's celebrate culture. Let's not put one above another and let's learn from each other. The school, following a twisted vision of inclusion that actually excludes has entirely created this situation. I don't greatly care about the dads politics. I do know, and care, that the more stuff like this happens the more people will turn to the right more than the left.

    It's utterly unacceptable to put some cultures above others and to have sent this girl home. Thats it off me. The rest is an inevitable and in all honesty understandable consequence.

    Im proudly Welsh and British. If this had happened to my daughter for wearing a union jack top I would be listening to those showing sympathy and to understanding and that isn't the likes of Sludge droning on about Gernan parties from the 1940s.
    I disagree, I think we’re poles apart.
    I don’t disagree that every culture should be celebrated included the British culture. You misguidedly think this is what the issue is here. But im glad to hear that your reaction would be different to that of the father in this story. I should imagine though that you wouldn’t have tried to frame a situation like this to play out in the national press for your kids in the first place either.

    You want to ignore the evidence in front of you and still want to blame the school.

    The father has created the situation. He’s grooming a 12 year old to his own views.

    You say you don’t greatly care about the dad’s politics. I’m afraid that’s what the whole story centres around. Its no different to the radicalisation of young Muslims into hatred. My only hope is that she/ they are flagged to prevent, because this sort of thing doesn’t end well, regardless of colour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    I disagree, I think we’re poles apart.
    I don’t disagree that every culture should be celebrated included the British culture. You misguidedly think this is what the issue is here. But im glad to hear that your reaction would be different to that of the father in this story. I should imagine though that you wouldn’t have tried to frame a situation like this to play out in the national press for your kids in the first place either.

    You want to ignore the evidence in front of you and still want to blame the school.

    The father has created the situation. He’s grooming a 12 year old to his own views.

    You say you don’t greatly care about the dad’s politics. I’m afraid that’s what the whole story centres around. Its no different to the radicalisation of young Muslims into hatred. My only hope is that she/ they are flagged to prevent, because this sort of thing doesn’t end well, regardless of colour.
    I'm surprised we are poles apart.

    If you honestly think there is anything normal about the treatment of this girl then that's up to you.

    But like I said. Most parents will not be heading into your and Sludges camp on that.

    They will firmly be criticising the expulsion of a child for expressing her culture. And to that you will say...ahh..it's her parents influence! But you would never say that in any other case, and that exposes your bias. It's wrong. It was wrong from the start, the school knows it and no one should have sympathy with the school.

    Whatever her dad's politics, they are fueled by the original decision. Fanned by the kind of arguments you are making here tbh.

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