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Thread: Online Safety Act

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    Online Safety Act

    I usually run a VPN to show that I’m in the UK, primarily to prevent shite adverts and pop ups that I would get here and other places.
    It’s also good while being a pain in the arse with the cookie GDPR thing.

    I just tried to view a menu for a place I’m going for lunch tomorrow and it’s blocked.
    Took off the vpn…no problem.

    It seems a bit of an overreach to me.

    Any thoughts about it?

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    Re: Online Safety Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue View Post
    I usually run a VPN to show that IÂ’m in the UK, primarily to prevent shite adverts and pop ups that I would get here and other places.
    ItÂ’s also good while being a pain in the arse with the cookie GDPR thing.

    I just tried to view a menu for a place IÂ’m going for lunch tomorrow and itÂ’s blocked.
    Took off the vpnÂ…no problem.

    It seems a bit of an overreach to me.

    Any thoughts about it?
    Is this the one Farage is crying about at the moment and complaining people are accusing him of being a Jimmy Saville sympathiser ?

    If it pisses him off thats great

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    I’ve no idea if Farage is pissed off or not.
    It seems as though you have to upload Id or have your photo taken to access any sites deemed 18+.

    In this day and age I wouldn’t fancy it.
    I can imagine VPN sales going through the roof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Is this the one Farage is crying about at the moment and complaining people are accusing him of being a Jimmy Saville sympathiser ?

    If it pisses him off thats great
    You are always going on about Nazis, but saying "if you don't support this policy then you support paedophiles" is exactly what people unfairly throw at people like Sadiq Khan and other Labour politicians.

    You have to do better than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    You are always going on about Nazis, but saying "if you don't support this policy then you support paedophiles" is exactly what people unfairly throw at people like Sadiq Khan and other Labour politicians.

    You have to do better than that.
    It was a deliberately provocative response. The gossamer skinned brute responded like the kind of snowflake he accuses his opponents.

    I would much rather politics was argued with the rules designed on the "playing fields of England". However, Trump and others have shown that the devil often has the best tunes. Farage has got away far too long spitting out any invective and using the social media operation that was so effective in Brexit to do the rest.

    The Democrats in part lost by playing Queensberry Rules. Good to see a rabbit punch that landed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    It was a deliberately provocative response. The gossamer skinned brute responded like the kind of snowflake he accuses his opponents.

    I would much rather politics was argued with the rules designed on the "playing fields of England". However, Trump and others have shown that the devil often has the best tunes. Farage has got away far too long spitting out any invective and using the social media operation that was so effective in Brexit to do the rest.

    The Democrats in part lost by playing Queensberry Rules. Good to see a rabbit punch that landed!
    A deliberately provocative response from Peter Kyle?

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    I dont think im cool enough to have been affected by it. Reddit ukpolitics sub is thread after thread of outrage directed at it and i havent even noticed its existence.

    I think politicians are a bit behind the curve if they think kids are more at risk from adult content than the imo brain altering addiction of short form content, interweaving of gambling into everything online and just the general, mostly negative, societal effects of social media. I feel like im in a cohort of one whenever i mention these things as a problem, time will tell.

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    Yep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Yep!
    Just checking! Yeah I agree. And I totally agree Farage gives as good as he gets but labelling someone a supporter of Jimmy Savile for not supporting a very specific, and some may say (not me) authoritarian policy is pretty disgraceful really. Really poor rhetoric

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Just checking! Yeah I agree. And I totally agree Farage gives as good as he gets but labelling someone a supporter of Jimmy Savile for not supporting a very specific, and some may say (not me) authoritarian policy is pretty disgraceful really. Really poor rhetoric
    But he doesn't give as good as he gets. That's the point. He is, if you excuse the oft used analogy on here "a BTec Trump". He spews out in any direction but if he gets it back he is on his hind heels demanding apologies for the same kind of shit he dregs up every day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    But he doesn't give as good as he gets. That's the point. He is, if you excuse the oft used analogy on here "a BTec Trump". He spews out in any direction but if he gets it back he is on his hind heels demanding apologies for the same kind of shit he dregs up every day!
    I dunno, he's a combative politician but he gets more than he gives and im pretty sure he hasn't labelled someone a paedophile supporter, although people close to him no doubt have in respect of the grooming gangs enquiries inquiry etc.

    Kyle should apologise I think, esp as he's in government. People will just throw the same at them otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I dunno, he's a combative politician but he gets more than he gives and im pretty sure he hasn't labelled someone a paedophile supporter, although people close to him no doubt have in respect of the grooming gangs enquiries inquiry etc.

    Kyle should apologise I think, esp as he's in government. People will just throw the same at them otherwise.
    No, he probably hasn't labelled someone a paedophile supporter, just labelled lots of other people with equally dodgy badges with no constraint and milking votes on the back of it. Like I said, from my perspective, the more you fight fire with fire rather than let there be one flavour of poison then so be it because there is arisk where goes Uncle Sam there goes us!

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    Re: Online Safety Act

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    You are always going on about Nazis, but saying "if you don't support this policy then you support paedophiles" is exactly what people unfairly throw at people like Sadiq Khan and other Labour politicians.

    You have to do better than that.
    Its about time farage got a taste of his own medicine

    I couldnt give a toss about him or his supporters never mind care wether or not poor old nige is offended

    I hope he really gets pulled through the mixer

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Its about time farage got a taste of his own medicine

    I couldnt give a toss about him or his supporters never mind care wether or not poor old nige is offended

    I hope he really gets pulled through the mixer
    Fingers crossed!!!

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    Re: Online Safety Act

    https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis...dmarsdn8syijsb

    When both the left and the right are united in their disdain for a piece of legislation, you know there must be something up. So, enter the Online Safety Act: a law so riddled with corruption, incompetence, and authoritarianism that you’d be forgiven for agreeing with Nigel Farage....

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    Re: Online Safety Act

    Seems to me it's a good idea, with some flaws. There seems to be some smaller sites getting affected that perhaps don't have the funds to get the necessary checks in place, which is an issue, and there needs to be a way around this. But making it harder for kids to stumble upon offensive content is a good thing (Obviously older ones will find the workaround of a VPN - It is what it is).

    Seems to be me though it's the old Farage voters kicking up the biggest stink, because they can't work out how to access pornhub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    Seems to me it's a good idea, with some flaws. There seems to be some smaller sites getting affected that perhaps don't have the funds to get the necessary checks in place, which is an issue, and there needs to be a way around this. But making it harder for kids to stumble upon offensive content is a good thing (Obviously older ones will find the workaround of a VPN - It is what it is).

    Seems to be me though it's the old Farage voters kicking up the biggest stink, because they can't work out how to access pornhub.
    Surely there has to be something better than that though.
    Isn’t there a way to stop a child viewing 18+ websites or certain social media directly on the device that they are using.

    It can’t be right having to use a VPN or upload your ID/Take a selfie and let them guess your age?

    It’s absurd.

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    Re: Online Safety Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue View Post
    Surely there has to be something better than that though.
    IsnÂ’t there a way to stop a child viewing 18+ websites or certain social media directly on the device that they are using.

    It canÂ’t be right having to use a VPN or upload your ID/Take a selfie and let them guess your age?

    ItÂ’s absurd.
    There absolutely is a way to stop it on lots of devices, but that's dependent on the parents being able or motivated to do it. Unfortunately that won't be the case in many cases. Not being all "think of the children" but there really is some warped stuff that's a few unfortunate clicks away. While this doesn't seem to be a perfect solution, it's equally crazy to have everything open. When I was younger the best you could hope for was page 3, without serious effort.

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    Re: Online Safety Act

    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    There absolutely is a way to stop it on lots of devices, but that's dependent on the parents being able or motivated to do it. Unfortunately that won't be the case in many cases. Not being all "think of the children" but there really is some warped stuff that's a few unfortunate clicks away. While this doesn't seem to be a perfect solution, it's equally crazy to have everything open. When I was younger the best you could hope for was page 3, without serious effort.
    I remember finding my uncle's almost-porn magazine secreted behind the high cistern in my grandparents' outside loo. It was confusing for me at the ladies' daisy-flowers were airbrushed out and replaced by featureless skin without any folds or features.

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    Re: Online Safety Act

    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    There absolutely is a way to stop it on lots of devices, but that's dependent on the parents being able or motivated to do it. Unfortunately that won't be the case in many cases. Not being all "think of the children" but there really is some warped stuff that's a few unfortunate clicks away. While this doesn't seem to be a perfect solution, it's equally crazy to have everything open. When I was younger the best you could hope for was page 3, without serious effort.
    Did you have to buy your own boxes of Kleenex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I remember finding my uncle's almost-porn magazine secreted behind the high cistern in my grandparents' outside loo. It was confusing for me at the ladies' daisy-flowers were airbrushed out and replaced by featureless skin without any folds or features.
    Should you really be posting such graphic accounts with these new laws in place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I remember finding my uncle's almost-porn magazine secreted behind the high cistern in my grandparents' outside loo. It was confusing for me at the ladies' daisy-flowers were airbrushed out and replaced by featureless skin without any folds or features.
    'at' should read as 'as', as it were.

    Yours

    as TBG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    'at' should read as 'as', as it were.
    Isn't bad form to use featureless and without any features in the same sentence?

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    Re: Online Safety Act

    In principle it’s a great idea, but it appears a bit hollow when Bonnie Blue is everywhere, and kids in my sons school are fully aware of her antics.

    A psyop perhaps (Bonnie Blue)

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    Re: Online Safety Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I remember finding my uncle's almost-porn magazine secreted behind the high cistern in my grandparents' outside loo. It was confusing for me at the ladies' daisy-flowers were airbrushed out and replaced by featureless skin without any folds or features.
    Sounds like you stumbled upon a copy of Mannequin wank fest dolls, particularly popular during the late 60s, early 70s.

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