Reply With QuoteGetting the name right (or left) is not easy!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3wnqj2pwvdo
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Of course they’re not, but the figures are still very impressive and it’s no surprise whatsoever to see Corbyn favoured over Starmer. The Prime Minister personifies why there is a gaping hole, which the Greens came closest to filling, among left of centre parties and I’m pretty sure that what I’ll call traditional Labour voters will consider voting for the new party.Originally Posted by Elwood Blues
Getting the name right (or left) is not easy!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3wnqj2pwvdo
Saw this earlier. More evidence that the BBC is just 4-5 days behind CCMB
I think they're missing a trick if they don't name themselves The Radical Left Party.
Latest count is over 750,000 sign ups for the New Party With No Name (Yet).
I know I am being pedantic here..but they are sign ups for e_mail.
Actually I do suspect a goodly number will sign up as members in due course, but even then the number is irrelevant if they don't, go on to win a substantial number of seats in future elections
Let's hope they do then! Have you signed up yet?
I was tempted to sign up to get a bloody idea of their policies. Thankfully one of my leftie friends has been providing regular updates on Facebook for us all, bless her 😌
Moves from within at least six major trade unions (currently affiliated to Labour but a strained relationship) to switch support to the new party. Unite is the most important, and the one closest to breaking the organisational and financial tie to New New Labour!
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/news/202...dmarsdn8syijsb
It is not being pedantic. Sign ups are not membership - which can't happen yet.
However, I expect the vast majority of people who signed up did so as an active endorsement of the idea of a new party of the left, and in support of the statement that invited support. That statement (copied further up the thread) described the type and purpose of the party proposed, the vision and values, the main policy planks and the type of internal democracy it wants to embed - democracy that has been deliberately destroyed in Starmer's Labour.
Sign ups will also include some Starmer loyalists, a few Sun reporters, Green voters and a smattering of agents from the CIA and SVR.
But based on a very small sample of people I know personally, most intend to join and build the new party when it is established.
Zarah Sultana on (amongst other things) the failures of Corbynism.
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis...dmarsdn8syijsb
https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/the-alternative
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79lr40rqelo
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2809612.html
Sultana impresses again.
The difference between her and Corbyn - her willingness to stand her ground and come out fighting - is stark.
https://www.thecanary.co/trending/20...dmarsdn8syijsb
Wow! That's powerful and impressive! She's exactly what's needed to fight back against right wing propaganda. She inspires me!
I'm not entirely sure that reopening the antisemitism can of worms is the wisest of actions is it?
Now is exactly the right time to be clear about what is anti semitism and what isn't.
We have a legacy of more than 10 years of western governments and institutions (reflected in the press) adopting (against the warnings of its main author) mis-applying the IHRA definition of anti semitism that conflates criticism of the Israeli government and its state ideology with hatred of Jewish people.
Anti semitism is racism is vile.
Opposition to a racist, genocidal state, with a government that harbours fascists, and directs a nuclear armed military to commit mass murder against civilians is a moral responsibility.
Netanyahu, backed by the Trump regime, happily calls all his political opponents (including leaders of western governments) anti semites. He has no confusion about it. The IHRA was his big victory - as international recognition of ethnic cleansing and war crimes was his defeat. The only 'can of worms' is the one that allows opposition to genocide to be silenced with the label of anti semitism - and that is often directed at Jewish opponents as much as non-Jewish.
The legacy of Corbyn's retreating and apologising in the face of a dishonest campaign against Labour when he was leader - from the Israel lobby, the liberal as well as Tory press, and from the Labour right who controlled the party for most of his time as leader - was catastrophic. If Sultana is able and willing to clean up the mess he left, then good on her.
Polls suggest this new party could shave off 20 percent of Labour's vote
Clearly screwing up any chance of defeating farage and reform
The best way to deal with this huge threat is for corbyn to hold back and Labour to grow some balls and force starmer out together with his shocking cabinet
Only then could a more centrist labour get enough support to edge past reform and keep farage out with a coalition
Whilst starmer and his crew are the elephant in the room corbyn is outside the door with a knife
He will be intensely disliked by moderates if he pushes forward with this and hands the keys to farage
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