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  1. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I laid out a couple of ideas earlier! I'm not sure you have?

    And I didn't mention Reform at all!

    SLUDGEBOT MALFUNCTION SLUDGEBOT MALFUNCTION!
    You lot wanted to leave Europe...close the borders , take back control

    Well done

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Hurry up
    Some of us work doublers and do not start at 10.00 only to finish at 14.30 Private sector can be brutal

  3. #53

    Re: Jenrick

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You lot wanted to leave Europe...close the borders , take back control

    Well done
    Problem solved! Thankfully EU countries have no issues!

  4. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Problem solved! Thankfully EU countries have no issues!
    Its cost us billions to go through all that brexit nonsense

    Absolutely no better off and will increasingly will be worse off

    Well done you reform gimps

  5. #55

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Its cost us billions to go through all that brexit nonsense

    Absolutely no better off and will increasingly will be worse off

    Well done you reform gimps
    There's nothing happening here that isn't also happening in the EU Sludge.

    But stop playing distractions! Where's your solutions to the problem?!

  6. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Hurry up
    I see you’ve been getting a right old leathering from James Wales. 😂
    All I have to say is we are a small island with a population of roughly 60/65m
    At the moment, we have a national debt of 2.8 trillion pounds !!!!!
    We give away roughly 5 billion pounds in foreign aid annually.
    We are being run by absolute crack pots. I’m talking both Labour and Conservatives
    With that unbelievable, astounding debt, we still can’t run ourselves properly and are making cutbacks on thousands of important public services.
    We openly invite immigrants of all race and religion to our country and we welcome them to settle and work here and build their own religious buildings, and communities. That is to be applauded.
    We openly welcome thousands of folk fleeing from war torn countries and we help them as much as we can. That is also something to be proud of.
    What me and seemingly more and more Brits are not happy with, is thousands of illegal young male immigrants swarming into the country, most of them without passports, and getting housed and fed in hotels all over the country.
    The far right activists and knuckle heads want to attack those hotels and the immigrants inside them.
    The vast majority of protesters are not racist, they’ve just had a bellyful, and want this situation to be sorted and stopped as soon as possible. Strengthen the borders. Turn the boats back. Now, rather than later. More security at airports, turning back illegal immigrants to where they’ve flown from now, rather than later.Deport all the East European begging gangs. Now, rather than later. Visit every nail bar, barbers, car wash stations, etc, check all deliveroo drivers, and Uber drivers.Weed out the immigrants who have no legal paperwork. Now, rather than later. Why are these illegal immigrants risking their lives to get here ?
    If Russia and Israel can continually drop bombs on innocent people while the rest of the world looks on, then we can get tough on illegal immigrants now, rather than later, and cut through all the red tape.

  7. #57

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    There's nothing happening here that isn't also happening in the EU Sludge.

    But stop playing distractions! Where's your solutions to the problem?!
    Accept that its never going to be STOPPED....which is what your leader is whipping up

    Management is the only way

    Detention centres instead of hotels to process claims

    Foreign aid increased , not cut , to target areas where migrants come from

  8. #58

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    I see youÂ’ve been getting a right old leathering from James Wales. 😂
    All I have to say is we are a small island with a population of roughly 60/65m
    At the moment, we have a national debt of 2.8 trillion pounds !!!!!
    We give away roughly 5 billion pounds in foreign aid annually.
    We are being run by absolute crack pots. IÂ’m talking both Labour and Conservatives
    With that unbelievable, astounding debt, we still canÂ’t run ourselves properly and are making cutbacks on thousands of important public services.
    We openly invite immigrants of all race and religion to our country and we welcome them to settle and work here and build their own religious buildings, and communities. That is to be applauded.
    We openly welcome thousands of folk fleeing from war torn countries and we help them as much as we can. That is also something to be proud of.
    What me and seemingly more and more Brits are not happy with, is thousands of illegal young male immigrants swarming into the country, most of them without passports, and getting housed and fed in hotels all over the country.
    The far right activists and knuckle heads want to attack those hotels and the immigrants inside them.
    The vast majority of protesters are not racist, theyÂ’ve just had a bellyful, and want this situation to be sorted and stopped as soon as possible. Strengthen the borders. Turn the boats back. Now, rather than later. More security at airports, turning back illegal immigrants to where theyÂ’ve flown from now, rather than later.Deport all the East European begging gangs. Now, rather than later. Visit every nail bar, barbers, car wash stations, etc, check all deliveroo drivers, and Uber drivers.Weed out the immigrants who have no legal paperwork. Now, rather than later. Why are these illegal immigrants risking their lives to get here ?
    If Russia and Israel can continually drop bombs on innocent people while the rest of the world looks on, then we can get tough on illegal immigrants now, rather than later, and cut through all the red tape.
    Blimey ....hes alive

    All your " plans " cost lots of money to enforce ....and reform and his pals want low taxation .....and some of those plans are illegal ....turning the boats back is subject to international law ....not going to happen

    Protestors not racist? I think you need to go on a demo and listen to the stuff they are shouting and saying off camera!

    Its our there if you choose to look ....Swansea far right groups actively organising these demos locally

    Not racist? You really are deluded

  9. #59

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    I see youÂ’ve been getting a right old leathering from James Wales. 😂
    All I have to say is we are a small island with a population of roughly 60/65m
    At the moment, we have a national debt of 2.8 trillion pounds !!!!!
    We give away roughly 5 billion pounds in foreign aid annually.
    We are being run by absolute crack pots. IÂ’m talking both Labour and Conservatives
    With that unbelievable, astounding debt, we still canÂ’t run ourselves properly and are making cutbacks on thousands of important public services.
    We openly invite immigrants of all race and religion to our country and we welcome them to settle and work here and build their own religious buildings, and communities. That is to be applauded.
    We openly welcome thousands of folk fleeing from war torn countries and we help them as much as we can. That is also something to be proud of.
    What me and seemingly more and more Brits are not happy with, is thousands of illegal young male immigrants swarming into the country, most of them without passports, and getting housed and fed in hotels all over the country.
    The far right activists and knuckle heads want to attack those hotels and the immigrants inside them.
    The vast majority of protesters are not racist, theyÂ’ve just had a bellyful, and want this situation to be sorted and stopped as soon as possible. Strengthen the borders. Turn the boats back. Now, rather than later. More security at airports, turning back illegal immigrants to where theyÂ’ve flown from now, rather than later.Deport all the East European begging gangs. Now, rather than later. Visit every nail bar, barbers, car wash stations, etc, check all deliveroo drivers, and Uber drivers.Weed out the immigrants who have no legal paperwork. Now, rather than later. Why are these illegal immigrants risking their lives to get here ?
    If Russia and Israel can continually drop bombs on innocent people while the rest of the world looks on, then we can get tough on illegal immigrants now, rather than later, and cut through all the red tape.
    Sorry to swipe another posters link but ...https://socialistworker.co.uk/in-dep...-terror-chief/

    These demos are chock full of these people , if you search the police videos filmed undercover of last years Rotherham riots the level of racist abuse was staggering

  10. #60

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Sorry to swipe another posters link but ...https://socialistworker.co.uk/in-dep...-terror-chief/

    These demos are chock full of these people , if you search the police videos filmed undercover of last years Rotherham riots the level of racist abuse was staggering
    I meant the majority of Folk who are starting to get pissed off are not racist, they just feel their voices are not getting listened too.
    As for increasing foreign aid? Are you for real? Are we a charity for the rest of the world?
    You seem to have plenty of spare time as you seem to be on here most of the day. Why don’t you go into politics and try to practice what you preach?

  11. #61

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    I meant the majority of Folk who are starting to get pissed off are not racist, they just feel their voices are not getting listened too.
    As for increasing foreign aid? Are you for real? Are we a charity for the rest of the world?
    You seem to have plenty of spare time as you seem to be on here most of the day. Why donÂ’t you go into politics and try to practice what you preach?
    Don't get in a strop just because you were stopped in your tracks

    Loads of footage of protestors hurling racist abuse

    The idea of turning back the boats is against maritime law

    Foreign aid is used to stop migration at source ....its mad , as you say , to stop it

  12. #62

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Don't get in a strop just because you were stopped in your tracks

    Loads of footage of protestors hurling racist abuse

    The idea of turning back the boats is against maritime law

    Foreign aid is used to stop migration at source ....its mad , as you say , to stop it
    Foreign aid won't stop migration at source. Foreign aid is important but it's a sticking plaster and foreign aid increasing doesn't lead to asylum claims (or immigration generally falling.

    This is becoming a really serious issue and you can't just wave it away like so many have done for so long.

  13. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Foreign aid won't stop migration at source. Foreign aid is important but it's a sticking plaster and foreign aid increasing doesn't lead to asylum claims (or immigration generally falling.

    This is becoming a really serious issue and you can't just wave it away like so many have done for so long.
    Its an attempt to reduce migration at source

    Our involvement in Afghanistan and the middle east , over many many years is one of the reasons why people come here

    You cannot stop that , you can only manage it

    Its the way of the world and shouting stop the boats , send em back and all that populist stuff , is not going to reduce immigration

    We cant stop the boats , international maritime law over rules farage and his supporters

    Using basic detention centres on vacant industrial land is a good idea to keep those waiting decisions away from the public .....and clearly the public away from them

    People say we are an island .....close the airports , close the ports

    Well I have asked for ideas rather than just shouting about it ....how can we close the airports , close the ports ?

    Just say.....tomorrow Heathrow is shut , Dover is shut ?

    Or ......keep them partly open and funnel migrants into a holding pen ?

    How's that going to work , practically ? What's the cost ? If the cost of not doing anything is social unrest then why when its said action on all this would cost billions and lead to higher taxes....people whistle and want to talk about the football ?

    Let's hear it

  14. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Foreign aid won't stop migration at source. Foreign aid is important but it's a sticking plaster and foreign aid increasing doesn't lead to asylum claims (or immigration generally falling.

    This is becoming a really serious issue and you can't just wave it away like so many have done for so long.
    BBC News - Labour's immigration plans at a glance - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...rrer=deep-link

    Secure borders .....needs lots of investment ....we dont want to fund

    Control immigration numbers and come up with promises that are never met ....tories spent 14 years doing that

    Efficient asylum process ....current government improving this but again costs money ......taxes etc

    Development aid ....goes right to the source of so much migration ....you might think its not up to scratch but thats not the view of those with expertise in this area

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    Re: Jenrick

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-for-attention

    Far-right agitator or leadership hopeful? MPs call hypocrisy as former minister rails against system he expanded.

  16. #66

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    No one is turning to the guardian on this topic

  17. #67

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    No one is turning to the guardian on this topic
    You have had a rinsing

    Jenrick isnt that bad .....even though hes chilling out with neo nazis

    Now its clear he was more than supportive of hotels in his past life 😆

    You keep going round and round sonny

  18. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You have had a rinsing

    Jenrick isnt that bad .....even though hes chilling out with neo nazis

    Now its clear he was more than supportive of hotels in his past life 😆

    You keep going round and round sonny
    What are you jibbering on about now?

  19. #69

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    What are you jibbering on about now?
    https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AtpXfhbdm/

    Your mate , who apparently isnt doing much wrong by chilling out with nazis , pulled up on his supportbof hotels

    Which apparently now .....are bad 👎

    Keep out of that quicksand

  20. #70

    Re: Jenrick

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    What are you jibbering on about now?
    I am merely pointing out that you are a complete hypocrite

  21. #71

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    What are you jibbering on about now?
    https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1CkGaHS5Eo/

    What a whopper

    The link between right wing tories and the reform foaming mouth crew is like osmosis

    You being a prime example 😆....its like morph

  22. #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1CkGaHS5Eo/

    What a whopper

    The link between right wing tories and the reform foaming mouth crew is like osmosis

    You being a prime example 😆....its like morph
    Again, what are you jibbering on about now?

    I asked you for some realistic solutions about 48 hours ago. I haven't heard anything. I guess you are alright, jack?

  23. #73

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Again, what are you jibbering on about now?

    I asked you for some realistic solutions about 48 hours ago. I haven't heard anything. I guess you are alright, jack?
    I know and the solutions of the missing man who was apparently at work , then having his tea .....farage , the conservatives and you ( a combination of all of these ) has been just to criticise the hotels you have all previously backed 😀

    The link to the current governments migrant policy was linked for you above ....you have been welcome to comment but seem to have been lost ....here's your chance

    But thats besides the point really ...you think everyone who doesnt agree with your pomposity on this is wrong or not taking a very serious situation ....your words again .....er , seriously

    Jenrick who you clearly used to support , as a former tory and farage , your new found nuanced friend , are both up to their necks in the fact that they both stir the pot but have come up with nothing

    Which is exactly what you have done ....whilst laughably suggesting we are the ones not taking this matter seriously

    You are like a pound shop Victor Meldrew

  24. #74

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    With respect, the mistake here is to label this "far- right" (a grossly overused description at the moment).

    People protest about things all the time. Its perfectly reasonable to not want to see a local hotel turned into asylum accommodation without having any say on the matter and those concerns will be understandably sent into overdrive once a 14 year old girl is sexually assaulted.

    I think people would be wise to realise what these protests are in order to draw the full conclusion from it. If you just think it's far-right protesters then it's not understanding the depth of feeling and motivation of those involved.
    So why were you , concerned about the " children " type and all your mates not out protesting about jenrick setting up all these hotels in 2023 ?

    😆

    You have been framed

  25. #75

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    So why were you , concerned about the " children " type and all your mates not out protesting about jenrick setting up all these hotels in 2023 ?

    😆

    You have been framed
    I've recognized the negatives of unsustainable immigration for years Sludge. Sensible people saw it coming. I don't argue a 2019-2024 Tory position for it any more than I argue a smug home owning liberal who isn't impacted by it position.

    Its unsustainable as fck. We are at the point now where there is almost no debate about it.

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