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    OH Angie Baby

    Is she a gift that keeps on giving !!!

    Angela Rayner ‘avoided £40,000 stamp duty on new seaside flat’

    https://www.thetimes.com/article/03c...6b34efc62ca013

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    Is she a gift that keeps on giving !!!

    Angela Rayner ‘avoided £40,000 stamp duty on new seaside flat’

    https://www.thetimes.com/article/03c...6b34efc62ca013
    She got divorced, moved out of her family home and bought a new property. Do better, do some research and don’t listen to the right wing loons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    She got divorced, moved out of her family home and bought a new property. Do better, do some research and donÂ’t listen to the right wing loons.

    😂 😂, 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 righty o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    😂 😂, 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 righty o
    Bookmark this reply. You know she’s done nothing wrong, I know she’s done nothing wrong and the right wing loons know she’s done nothing wrong. They’ve tried dirty tactics against her so many times it’s getting bloody boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Bookmark this reply. You know sheÂ’s done nothing wrong, I know sheÂ’s done nothing wrong and the right wing loons know sheÂ’s done nothing wrong. TheyÂ’ve tried dirty tactics against her so many times itÂ’s getting bloody boring.
    I'm of the understanding that no law has been broken but there again, I never said she had. However !!!!! Her tweet history on those who have done similar and what she has said on the subject, her own tactics have boomeranged. Rules for thee but not for me springs to mind, a government minister should be setting the std. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    I'm of the understanding that no law has been broken but there again, I never said she had. However !!!!! Her tweet history on those who have done similar and what she has said on the subject, her own tactics have boomeranged. Rules for thee but not for me springs to mind, a government minister should be setting the std. ?
    So she’s done nothing wrong then. She owns one house that is her PPR. HOW DARE A WORKING CLASS WOMEN OWN A HOUSE GRRRRRR!!!

    Now go take your misogynistic views elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    So sheÂ’s done nothing wrong then. She owns one house that is her PPR. HOW DARE A WORKING CLASS WOMEN OWN A HOUSE GRRRRRR!!!

    Now go take your misogynistic views elsewhere.
    I dont like Rayner because she talks the talk but thats it

    She rightly slagged off tory housing policy , including the right to buy for many years

    But it then emerged she bought her own council house and made a handsome profit on it !

    Its that sort of complete nonsense and bull that is completely unacceptable and I hope she gets driven out along with Starmer , Reeves and the rest of them and replaced by decent labour MPs

    Whilst HB is a dozy old arse I dont think this is about hating women

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I dont like Rayner because she talks the talk but thats it

    She rightly slagged off tory housing policy , including the right to buy for many years

    But it then emerged she bought her own council house and made a handsome profit on it !

    Its that sort of complete nonsense and bull that is completely unacceptable and I hope she gets driven out along with Starmer , Reeves and the rest of them and replaced by decent labour MPs

    Whilst HB is a dozy old arse I dont think this is about hating women
    Yup, dozy old arse pointing out the hypocrisy and to be fair even you understands it TBF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    So sheÂ’s done nothing wrong then. She owns one house that is her PPR. HOW DARE A WORKING CLASS WOMEN OWN A HOUSE GRRRRRR!!!

    Now go take your misogynistic views elsewhere.
    I dont like Rayner because she talks the talk but thats it

    She rightly slagged off tory housing policy , including the right to buy for many years

    But it then emerged she bought her own council house and made a handsome profit on it !

    Its that sort of complete nonsense and bull that is completely unacceptable and I hope she gets driven out along with Starmer , Reeves and the rest of them and replaced by decent labour MPs

    Whilst HB is a dozy old arse I dont think this is about hating women

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I dont like Rayner because she talks the talk but thats it

    She rightly slagged off tory housing policy , including the right to buy for many years

    But it then emerged she bought her own council house and made a handsome profit on it !

    Its that sort of complete nonsense and bull that is completely unacceptable and I hope she gets driven out along with Starmer , Reeves and the rest of them and replaced by decent labour MPs

    Whilst HB is a dozy old arse I dont think this is about hating women
    Of course it’s about hating women. Where’s all the right wing media outrage at all the men who own portfolios of properties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Of course it’s about hating women. Where’s all the right wing media outrage at all the men who own portfolios of properties.
    She's deputy PM and Secretary of State for housing, no? Therefore under greater scrutiny.

    I'm not greatly fussed on this story, but the idea she is criticised because of her gender is absurd and baseless and just more identity politics crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    She's deputy PM and Secretary of State for housing, no? Therefore under greater scrutiny.

    I'm not greatly fussed on this story, but the idea she is criticised because of her gender is absurd and baseless and just more identity politics crap.

    He's an ex forces bully used to shouting at young recruits and hates being challenged, the post is simply highlighting the hypocrisy of a senior government minister who has used Twitter to call out apposing party MP,s for tax avoidance. The hypocrisy by her is not my fault.

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    And then there’s the hypocrisy of the Tories calling for an investigation into Rayner’s tax affairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    She's deputy PM and Secretary of State for housing, no? Therefore under greater scrutiny.

    I'm not greatly fussed on this story, but the idea she is criticised because of her gender is absurd and baseless and just more identity politics crap.
    She is fair game as a senior politician - for her views, for her actions and for any hypocrisy.

    But you and Heath and Sludge (very strange bedfellows!) insist there is no extra misogynistic layer to the online abuse she gets.

    That is just wrong and pig-headed and an inversion of 'identity politics crap'. You are in denial and appear to be happy that way.

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    No, what I think is that you have legitimate and less legitimate criticism.

    Legitimate criticism will focus on their policies or decisions, and we wont all agree on that, or the strength or tone it's delivered, but at least it's based on political decisions

    Less legitimate is personal criticisms. Now some will argue personal issues do count - such as if someone cheats on their partner, or if they appear rude as a person. I guess that may be fair enough but its less legitimate for me. Rayner gets her fair share of that, although not as much as others IMO.

    What is definitely not acceptable is any criticism based on her gender or race etc. I am pretty wise to that. As mentioned before I have called it out on here when female politicians have been called bitches, sluts etc.

    I guess some people may hate Rayner cos she is female. Some people hate Johnson cos he's male and some may hate Sunak cos his parents came from India.

    What you need to do is evidence the level of it though. For this to be labeled as "all about hating women" by Ninian Opinion is very incorrect in my opinion an creates a false narrative designed to detract.

    Personally I don't mind Rayner. I think her labeling opponents as scum was appalling but she rightly apologised.

    Bigger issue here for me is probably why she is buying a main residence hundreds of miles away from her constituents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    No, what I think is that you have legitimate and less legitimate criticism.

    Legitimate criticism will focus on their policies or decisions, and we wont all agree on that, or the strength or tone it's delivered, but at least it's based on political decisions

    Less legitimate is personal criticisms. Now some will argue personal issues do count - such as if someone cheats on their partner, or if they appear rude as a person. I guess that may be fair enough but its less legitimate for me. Rayner gets her fair share of that, although not as much as others IMO.

    What is definitely not acceptable is any criticism based on her gender or race etc. I am pretty wise to that. As mentioned before I have called it out on here when female politicians have been called bitches, sluts etc.

    I guess some people may hate Rayner cos she is female. Some people hate Johnson cos he's male and some may hate Sunak cos his parents came from India.

    What you need to do is evidence the level of it though. For this to be labeled as "all about hating women" by Ninian Opinion is very incorrect in my opinion an creates a false narrative designed to detract.

    Personally I don't mind Rayner. I think her labeling opponents as scum was appalling but she rightly apologised.

    Bigger issue here for me is probably why she is buying a main residence hundreds of miles away from her constituents.
    Can you now name all the MPs whose main residence is not in their constituencies for balance?

    And you do know that this IS ALLOWED don’t you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Can you now name all the MPs whose main residence is not in their constituencies for balance?
    No. But I think all MPs should live in their constituencies or at least close to them and not the other side of the country. And if someone is responsible for Housing policy then they should expect to be under even greater scrutiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Of course itÂ’s about hating women. WhereÂ’s all the right wing media outrage at all the men who own portfolios of properties.
    Sunak and his wife were scrutinised for their tax status weren't they?

    If that was ok to do and I think it was ok to do in the public interest then she should be ok with scrutiny too

    I think its fine to be a bulldog in politics but you have to deal with questions of your own

    I think she's being hung by her own petard

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Sunak and his wife were scrutinised for their tax status weren't they?

    If that was ok to do and I think it was ok to do in the public interest then she should be ok with scrutiny too

    I think its fine to be a bulldog in politics but you have to deal with questions of your own

    I think she's being hung by her own petard
    What do you expect a woman to do? Stay in an unhappy marriage and continue to live with her ex husband? Why shouldn’t she be allowed to buy her own house and move on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    What do you expect a woman to do? Stay in an unhappy marriage and continue to live with her ex husband? Why shouldnÂ’t she be allowed to buy her own house and move on?
    Because shes made 50 k profit from a policy shes slagged off and that millions of other women cant access because she has bought one of the states assets used to house less fortunate people

    Put those violins away

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