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    Wales Squad

    Rubin not included.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cvg94n22ldjo

    Wales squad
    Goalkeepers: Karl Darlow (Leeds United), Adam Davies (Sheffield United), Tom King (Everton).

    Defenders: Ben Cabango (Swansea City), Jay Dasilva (Coventry City), Ben Davies (Tottenham Hotspur), Ronan Kpakio (Cardiff City), Dylan Lawlor (Cardiff City), Chris Mepham (West Bromwich Albion), Joe Rodon (Leeds United), Neco Williams (Nottingham Forest).

    Midfielders: Ethan Ampadu (Leeds United), David Brooks (Bournemouth), Jordan James (Stade Rennais), Aaron Ramsey (Pumas UNAM), Josh Sheehan (Bolton Wanderers), Sorba Thomas (Stoke City), Harry Wilson (Fulham), Joel Colwill (Cardiff City).

    Forwards: Nathan Broadhead (Wrexham), Liam Cullen (Swansea City), Mark Harris (Oxford United), Lewis Koumas (Birmingham City - on loan from Liverpool), Daniel James (Leeds United), Brennan Johnson (Tottenham Hotspur), Kieffer Moore (Wrexham).

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    Re: Rubin. It us what it is. Bellamy clearly doesnt like his profile of player and even though he says he really rates him, he clearly doesnt. Would have more respect for him if he just said that than the nice guy media spin bollocks he comes out with.

    Just hope the lad doesnt let it get him down and keeps performing well for City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Re: Rubin. It us what it is. Bellamy clearly doesnt like his profile of player and even though he says he really rates him, he clearly doesnt. Would have more respect for him if he just said that than the nice guy media spin bollocks he comes out with.

    Just hope the lad doesnt let it get him down and keeps performing well for City.
    This is clearly ‘non football’ related. It’s an absolute joke.

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    Re: Wales Squad

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Re: Rubin. It us what it is. Bellamy clearly doesnt like his profile of player and even though he says he really rates him, he clearly doesnt. Would have more respect for him if he just said that than the nice guy media spin bollocks he comes out with.

    Just hope the lad doesnt let it get him down and keeps performing well for City.
    It'd be better for everyone if he just came out and said it because otherwise he looks like a hypocrite and can be accused of playing favourites.

    He's asked him to play regularly and consistently, he has done. He wants more intensity, he got it. Just look at how Colwill compares to other players called up in terms of consistency

    Rubin Colwill 11 starts (1 sub) 4 goals, 4 assists
    Liam Cullen 3 starts (5 sub) 0 goals, 1 assist
    Aaron Ramsey 3 starts (3 sub) 1 goal, 0 assists
    Nathan Broadhead 3 starts (3 sub) 2 goals, 0 assists

    You can make the point that the other 3 play at a higher level, which is fair but Wales have certainly never been above picking League 1 players

    Not directly competing with Colwill so a little irrelevant but I'd say Lewis Koumas is pretty lucky to have kept his spot in the seniors, hasn't scored a league goal since December. Again undermining the "consistency" stuff Bellamy spouts

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    Plenty of time for Wales games. Keep working hard, it will happen eventually, even if it's with the next Manager. It's better for us he's here and not getting injured for Wales, he's played a lot of games and will benefit from working here with BBM.

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    I dont tend to watch or listen to many press conferences but does Bellamy get questioned as to Rubin's consistent non-inclusion?
    If he's not, then he should be as it's becoming an odd situation.

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    All the talk is about Rubin Colwill again (and careful, you can get in trouble for that...).

    No mention so far of the fact that Joel Colwill is included. Good for him. I've been very impressed with what I've seen of him so far.

    Also, good to see Lawlor and Kpakio selected again, but I guess that was a given.

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    Tough window this, on the back of losing to Canada. Friendly against Australia, who are ranked above us, as well before our final 2 qualifiers.

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    Wouldn't shock me if it didn't go down well he turned down his late call up for Kazakhstan and Canada before playing every minute since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    Tough window this, on the back of losing to Canada. Friendly against Australia, who are ranked above us, as well before our final 2 qualifiers.
    The women's team are playing Australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub View Post
    Wouldn't shock me if it didn't go down well he turned down his late call up for Kazakhstan and Canada before playing every minute since.
    Believe that was mutual.

    I suspect he will get a call up with drop outs. DJ is supposedly out, though I wouldn't be shocked if Isaak Davies gets a call up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    It'd be better for everyone if he just came out and said it because otherwise he looks like a hypocrite and can be accused of playing favourites.

    He's asked him to play regularly and consistently, he has done. He wants more intensity, he got it. Just look at how Colwill compares to other players called up in terms of consistency

    Rubin Colwill 11 starts (1 sub) 4 goals, 4 assists
    Liam Cullen 3 starts (5 sub) 0 goals, 1 assist
    Aaron Ramsey 3 starts (3 sub) 1 goal, 0 assists
    Nathan Broadhead 3 starts (3 sub) 2 goals, 0 assists

    You can make the point that the other 3 play at a higher level, which is fair but Wales have certainly never been above picking League 1 players

    Not directly competing with Colwill so a little irrelevant but I'd say Lewis Koumas is pretty lucky to have kept his spot in the seniors, hasn't scored a league goal since December. Again undermining the "consistency" stuff Bellamy spouts
    Agree with this. Craig Bellamy has been an impressive manager of Wales so far, but his handling of the issue of Rubin Colwill is the least impressive aspect of it up to now. “Feeble” was never an adjective I thought could be applied to Bellamy, but his reasoning for Colwill’s absence for the last squad was completely feeble - be honest and say why you’re not picking him, because, as it stands, it looks very likely that Bellamy’s applying different standards for Rubin than he does with other members of the squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad View Post
    Believe that was mutual.

    I suspect he will get a call up with drop outs. DJ is supposedly out, though I wouldn't be shocked if Isaak Davies gets a call up there.
    If DJ is out long term as rumours seem to suggest then seems stupid we have to go through all this before the inevitable replacement call up. Surely they can do their due diligence in advance if it is a long term one

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub View Post
    If DJ is out long term as rumours seem to suggest then seems stupid we have to go through all this before the inevitable replacement call up. Surely they can do their due diligence in advance if it is a long term one
    I think they're governed by UEFA. Clubs were notified last week of this squad, which is why our Barnsley fixture was called off ahead of time. Presumably the DJ injury happened after that initial squad confirmation and/or the scale of injury is still being determined.

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    I does seem harsh but who is R Colwills direct alternatives and who are J Colwills?

    Still he could play in a few positions and would be useul in that squad.

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    Re: Wales Squad

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    Rubin not included.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cvg94n22ldjo

    Wales squad
    Goalkeepers: Karl Darlow (Leeds United), Adam Davies (Sheffield United), Tom King (Everton).

    Defenders: Ben Cabango (Swansea City), Jay Dasilva (Coventry City), Ben Davies (Tottenham Hotspur), Ronan Kpakio (Cardiff City), Dylan Lawlor (Cardiff City), Chris Mepham (West Bromwich Albion), Joe Rodon (Leeds United), Neco Williams (Nottingham Forest).

    Midfielders: Ethan Ampadu (Leeds United), David Brooks (Bournemouth), Jordan James (Stade Rennais), Aaron Ramsey (Pumas UNAM), Josh Sheehan (Bolton Wanderers), Sorba Thomas (Stoke City), Harry Wilson (Fulham), Joel Colwill (Cardiff City).

    Forwards: Nathan Broadhead (Wrexham), Liam Cullen (Swansea City), Mark Harris (Oxford United), Lewis Koumas (Birmingham City - on loan from Liverpool), Daniel James (Leeds United), Brennan Johnson (Tottenham Hotspur), Kieffer Moore (Wrexham).
    Forwards are poor too, James and Brennan are OK but we're so weak overall.

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    I'm convinced Rubin was one of the players who Bellers was accused of bullying. He's shown the consistency asked of him, and would clearly make that squad better.

    Well done the 3 lads picked.

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    Sorry but I can't get enthusiastic about Wales in the same way as I do about City. The internationals are an irritation in the middle of the season and the only benefit from an international break is it allows injured players to recover. I'll watch Wales but not very often is it worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire View Post
    Sorry but I can't get enthusiastic about Wales in the same way as I do about City. The internationals are an irritation in the middle of the season and the only benefit from an international break is it allows injured players to recover. I'll watch Wales but not very often is it worth it.
    Obviously it affects us negatively — while most teams can train, rotate, and rest their players, we have so many key players away. Those extra games really take their toll. Last year we lost Ramsey for the entire season, and this year alone we’ve lost Kapacio and Lawlor. Just as they’ve returned to fitness, they’re called away again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Agree with this. Craig Bellamy has been an impressive manager of Wales so far, but his handling of the issue of Rubin Colwill is the least impressive aspect of it up to now. “Feeble” was never an adjective I thought could be applied to Bellamy, but his reasoning for Colwill’s absence for the last squad was completely feeble - be honest and say why you’re not picking him, because, as it stands, it looks very likely that Bellamy’s applying different standards for Rubin than he does with other members of the squad.
    Is it remotely possible that Rubin is simply not Bellamy's type of player? A number of managers haven't really known what to do with him. Perhaps Bellamy thinks it's a headache he doesn't need.

    Obviously he has to be diplomatic in press conferences. He can't just say: "Rubin Colwill,? Nah, can't really see him fitting in with the tactics I want to employ."

    He's taken a shine to Joel Colwill it seems. I'm not surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86 View Post
    I'm convinced Rubin was one of the players who Bellers was accused of bullying. He's shown the consistency asked of him, and would clearly make that squad better.

    Well done the 3 lads picked.
    Maybe then it's a case of Rubin choosing to make himself unavailable whilst Bellamy is in charge, rather than Bellamy not selecting him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Is it remotely possible that Rubin is simply not Bellamy's type of player? A number of managers haven't really known what to do with him. Perhaps Bellamy thinks it's a headache he doesn't need.

    Obviously he has to be diplomatic in press conferences. He can't just say: "Rubin Colwill,? Nah, can't really see him fitting in with the tactics I want to employ."

    He's taken a shine to Joel Colwill it seems. I'm not surprised.
    He can just say that though and save the trouble of being asked about it each time rather than coming out with the consistency stuff which leads to comment and people rightly pointing out that he's being a bit of a hypocrite

    "We have a set way of how we'd like to play and unfortunately Rubin doesn't fit into that but I'm pleased to see him kicking on with Cardiff and hope he continues to progress. For the time being though he isn't in our plans".

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    i think people are reading too much into this.
    rubin plays as an attacking midfielder, of which we have several options that are clearly ahead of him at the moment.
    we are very light on numbers at centre midfield, but it's good to see Joel keeping his place even with Ramsey and Ampadu coming back.

    I'm a massive fan of Rubin and I can't honestly say that I would definitely have picked him in these squads

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    He can just say that though and save the trouble of being asked about it each time rather than coming out with the consistency stuff which leads to comment and people rightly pointing out that he's being a bit of a hypocrite.
    How many times has he said this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    i think people are reading too much into this.
    rubin plays as an attacking midfielder, of which we have several options that are clearly ahead of him at the moment.

    I'm a massive fan of Rubin and I can't honestly say that I would definitely have picked him in these squads
    So you think Liam Cullen is ahead of him? LOL

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