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Thread: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    I am not sure how much choice Bibi will get.

    Trump wants that peace prize next year. Netanyahu may be a necessary sacrifice.

    With the Donald anything is possible.
    I guess that is one scenario.

    Another is that Netanyahu will decide that the only way to stay in power (and possibly out of prison) is to continue to side with the ultranationalists and warmongering elements of his fragile coalition in Smotrich and Ben-Gvir.

    In this view they will continue to try and trigger friction on the West Bank, undermine the peace plan in Gaza and try to agitate their neighbours.

    Based on how Putin has played Trump since Alaska then he may think it is the lesser of his own two evils!

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    All living hostages released by Hamas, CCMB usual suspects traumatized by the president of peace delivering. Stolen elections have consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    All living hostages released by Hamas, CCMB usual suspects traumatized by the president of peace delivering. Stolen elections have consequences.
    And some people outrageously suggest you are a trump groupie

    The nerve they display

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    And some people outrageously suggest you are a trump groupie

    The nerve they display
    He's been key to negotiating this (fragile) peace, no?

    Id say that's pretty close to established fact.

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    He's been key to negotiating this (fragile) peace, no?

    Id say that's pretty close to established fact.
    I am doubting HBs sanity for his recurrent gushing over Trump , not Trump's negotiating powers

    I reckon hes got a scrapbook of photos of his hero tucked under his pillow

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    He's been key to negotiating this (fragile) peace, no?

    Id say that's pretty close to established fact.
    Yes - that is now close to established fact. The beginning of Phase 1 was pushed through by Trump.

    But Sludge was calling out Heath on calling him 'the president of peace' as well as repeating MAGA lies about a stolen election.

    Trump was the main reason Israel was able to break the last ceasefire in March - he encouraged them. He continued to provide arms, money and diplomatic cover. If he is now claiming credit for the release of the Israeli hostages (and hopefully some of the Palestinian hostages and prisoners) and enabling the start of UN-managed aid into Gaza, he must also take major responsibility for the thousands of civilian murders at the hands of the IOF this year!

    There are enough people kissing his arse and blowing smoke - we don't all have to join in!

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Sludge, Jon, Fair enough 👍

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Jared Kushner all over the Gaza deal. Doesn't he have a financial interest in the the redevelopment of the area?

    Anyone who thinks Trumps reason for arranging a peace deal is anything to do with peace, really doesn't understand the man.

    And BBC's constant coverage of hostages being reunited with family is distasteful, when you consider the number of innocent Palestinians that have been murdered.

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86 View Post
    Jared Kushner all over the Gaza deal. Doesn't he have a financial interest in the the redevelopment of the area?

    Anyone who thinks Trumps reason for arranging a peace deal is anything to do with peace, really doesn't understand the man.

    And BBC's constant coverage of hostages being reunited with family is distasteful, when you consider the number of innocent Palestinians that have been murdered.
    Don't forget the sausages!

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86 View Post
    Jared Kushner all over the Gaza deal. Doesn't he have a financial interest in the the redevelopment of the area?

    Anyone who thinks Trumps reason for arranging a peace deal is anything to do with peace, really doesn't understand the man.

    And BBC's constant coverage of hostages being reunited with family is distasteful, when you consider the number of innocent Palestinians that have been murdered.
    Sounds like you are the one who doesn't want peace.

    If you can't be happy about innocent hostages being returned to their families after two years then, genuinely, you need some help. I hope you get it.

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Sounds like you are the one who doesn't want peace.

    If you can't be happy about innocent hostages being returned to their families after two years then, genuinely, you need some help. I hope you get it.
    Where have I said I don't want peace

    I'm not saying the reunions are a bad thing

    What an odd reply

    EDIT - just seen footage of Palestinians being received in the West Bank, so I take that comment back

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I am doubting HBs sanity for his recurrent gushing over Trump , not Trump's negotiating powers

    I reckon hes got a scrapbook of photos of his hero tucked under his pillow
    Not sure if he is or not but he'll be along in a minute to say that he doesn't trust any of them, then he'll say something about winding up the ccmb usual suspects or brigade or somesuch even though literally no one cares, then he'll at some point get upset himself and say someone's stalking him or tell you to sit down and shut the f**k up, then he'll gleefully start a "windup" thread that he planned at the family barbecue which only gets a handful of slightly confused replies and so the pattern continues

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    Not sure if he is or not but he'll be along in a minute to say that he doesn't trust any of them, then he'll say something about winding up the ccmb usual suspects or brigade or somesuch even though literally no one cares, then he'll at some point get upset himself and say someone's stalking him or tell you to sit down and shut the f**k up, then he'll gleefully start a "windup" thread that he planned at the family barbecue which only gets a handful of slightly confused replies and so the pattern continues
    Don't be too disappointed Dell, you can change colours to yellow and blue, rent a march will be looking for new Focus in time for Christmas

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    Don't be too disappointed Dell, you can change colours to yellow and blue, rent a march will be looking for new Focus in time for Christmas
    Well I look forward to your alternating attempted windups and sulks relating to whatever they cook up

    NHDKSSUFNSD

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    Well I look forward to your alternating attempted windups and sulks relating to whatever they cook up

    NHDKSSUFNSD
    There is always the climate change badge to fall back on if the Ukraine crew fail to get organised, there will always be something available for your virtue. 👍

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    Not sure if he is or not but he'll be along in a minute to say that he doesn't trust any of them, then he'll say something about winding up the ccmb usual suspects or brigade or somesuch even though literally no one cares, then he'll at some point get upset himself and say someone's stalking him or tell you to sit down and shut the f**k up, then he'll gleefully start a "windup" thread that he planned at the family barbecue which only gets a handful of slightly confused replies and so the pattern continues
    The release of the sausages?!

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    FIFA President Gianni Infantino("FIFA doesn't do geopolitics") is present at the so-called peace conference in Sharm El Sheikh. There's a Photo of him with Trump on Twitter.

    There's money in keeping politics out of sport as long as you ban Russia while letting Israel stay and play in Europe. Just follow American orders and you'll be fine, son.

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    There is always the climate change badge to fall back on if the Ukraine crew fail to get organised, there will always be something available for your virtue. ��

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Mansfield View Post
    FIFA President Gianni Infantino("FIFA doesn't do geopolitics") is present at the so-called peace conference in Sharm El Sheikh. There's a Photo of him with Trump on Twitter.

    There's money in keeping politics out of sport as long as you ban Russia while letting Israel stay and play in Europe. Just follow American orders and you'll be fine, son.
    I’d hazard a guess that Russia have been banned as they were the aggressors, where as Israel were retaliating, but that doesn’t seem to fit your agenda. As for Infantino, he’s like a star struck kid, hanging about for autographs.

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    I think WB knew that. Just like Jon 1959’s link to Israel still attacking Palestine yesterday.
    And again, more Palestinian dead reported today - despite the denials of the Israeli Occupation Forces and their CCMB spokespeople!

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2844774.html

    An Israeli drone strike killed five people as they returned to check on their homes in Gaza's eastern Shejaiya neighbourhood, according to authorities. A separate strike killed one person and injured another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    IÂ’d hazard a guess that Russia have been banned as they were the aggressors, where as Israel were retaliating, but that doesnÂ’t seem to fit your agenda. As for Infantino, heÂ’s like a star struck kid, hanging about for autographs.
    Israel has stopped aid trucks going in already

    That didn't last long

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Israel has stopped aid trucks going in already

    That didn't last long
    Failure by Hamas to return all the hostages (alive and dead). What about Hamas executing their own as well.
    You and others have got to stop blaming Israel for everything

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Failure by Hamas to return all the hostages (alive and dead). What about Hamas executing their own as well.
    You and others have got to stop blaming Israel for everything
    Thats what Israel are saying

    I wouldn't believe anything they say

    They have flattened gaza city in a scorched earth policy

    I absolutely blame them 100 percent for that and the hamas recruits its going to provide

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    Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025

    Trump has played a blinder in getting the hostages returned and hopefully getting aid into Gaza but so far it's a ceasefire which doesn't appear to be holding up entirely.

    Let's be realistic, Hamas are ***** who are not going to give up the power they have in Gaza and as for giving up their weapons, yeah right.

    The Ultra Nationalists and Netanyahu do not want a two state solution.

    Trump has had his day in the Nobel spotlight but the region will be back to Hamas (*****) v Israeli government (*****) before the New Year to my uneducated eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Trump has played a blinder in getting the hostages returned and hopefully getting aid into Gaza but so far it's a ceasefire which doesn't appear to be holding up entirely.

    Let's be realistic, Hamas are ***** who are not going to give up the power they have in Gaza and as for giving up their weapons, yeah right.

    The Ultra Nationalists and Netanyahu do not want a two state solution.

    Trump has had his day in the Nobel spotlight but the region will be back to Hamas (*****) v Israeli government (*****) before the New Year to my uneducated eye.
    Never ending aggro based on land and who said what in silly books

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