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    Re: New Party on the Left

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I have spent at least 5 minutes trying to think that one through - and failed!

    Are Reform the Mexicans under Santa Ana, or the Texans under Travis, Bowie and Crockett?

    After a 13 day siege the 200 odd Texans (and friends) in the Alamo were wiped out.

    Somehow I can't imagine Reform as either an overwhelming force of victorious Mexicans, or as an heroic (in their myth making) and doomed group represented by John Wayne, Richard Widmark and Laurence Harvey.

    Nigel Farage, Richard Tice and 30p Lee Anderson are more of a Carry On cast.

    The Battle of Endor is a better analogy - where the Rebel Alliance defeats the Galactic Empire?

    I'm giving this too much thought........!
    Yes maybe I was being too poetic. They're not the 300 Spartans either. Somehow I can't see 'our Nige" as Leonidas.

  2. #202

    Re: New Party on the Left

    Given the working class demographic of their support, and the desire to sweep away the old guard, Les Mis perhaps?

  3. #203

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Given the working class demographic of their support, and the desire to sweep away the old guard, Les Mis perhaps?
    Too left wing. More like Krystalnacht

  4. #204

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I was listening to a New Statesman podcast earlier this week - which was a long discussion with James Schneider, one time bag carrier for Corbyn and one of the main organisers of Your Party. The whole thing was interesting and informative - but towards the end they got onto the approach of Your Party to The Greens under Zack Polanski. It isn't Your Party (whatever it is finally called) policy (yet) but Schneider sketched out his preferred approach around collaboration and electoral pacts. He suggested that the two parties (and maybe some others) should try out joint primaries to select candidates for the mayoral elections the year before the next General Election - so that the best person from a pool (he suggest two YP and two Greens) is selected and all the parties in the process get behind the winner. That involves party members and supporters from the start and avoids reliance on tactical voting decisions by individual voters.

    I don't know if that will happen (and be extended to the GE) but the fact it has been discussed so openly so early suggests it might. If it does the 'splitting the vote' argument Sludge constantly makes becomes an irrelevance.
    Well quite frankly I would vote for a tin of peas if it kept out reform

    Everything else in whatever order is irrelevant and if voting for corbyn had to be done to defeat NF consider me in but it would only be loan

  5. #205

    Re: New Party on the Left

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Too left wing. More like Krystalnacht
    Hey we are talking about Reform here!

    If you want to come up with Your Party examples then start a new thread! 😜

  6. #206

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Hey we are talking about Reform here!

    If you want to come up with Your Party examples then start a new thread! 😜
    I thought you were talking about Reform. Go on then let's have Les Mis or even Les Dawson

  7. #207

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    The time it's taking to name the new entity is becoming is a bit of a farce. Abigail's Party perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    The time it's taking to name the new entity is becoming is a bit of a farce. Abigail's Party perhaps.
    The founding conference has been organised for 29 and 30 November in Liverpool. The party name will come out of that.

    https://www.yourparty.uk/conference

  9. #209

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    The founding conference has been organised for 29 and 30 November in Liverpool. The party name will come out of that.

    https://www.yourparty.uk/conference
    Do you know what their actual membership is now Jon?

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    Do you know what their actual membership is now Jon?
    I haven't seen any reliable figures.

    Over 20,000 people joined up via the portal promoted by Sultana - that led to the fall out with Corbyn (then the make up with Corbyn). In typical fashion they are all members but their details are not yet accessible to Your Party! Since then there have been almost 6 weeks of the replacement (and working!) membership portal in operation. I have not seen any reported membership figures for people who have joined via that route.

    Over 800,000 people registered an interest in Your Party over the summer.

    13,000 members will be selected by ballot to take part in the founding conference in Liverpool at the end of November.

    The Greens have doubled their membership to 150,000 since Zack Polanski was elected as leader - and some of those might have otherwise become Your Party members.

    Party rules will prevent membership of other political parties as well as Your Party.

    When membership figures are finally announced I would expect them to be in the 100,000 - 250,000 range. But that is just a guess.

  11. #211

    Re: New Party on the Left

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I haven't seen any reliable figures.

    Over 20,000 people joined up via the portal promoted by Sultana - that led to the fall out with Corbyn (then the make up with Corbyn). In typical fashion they are all members but their details are not yet accessible to Your Party! Since then there have been almost 6 weeks of the replacement (and working!) membership portal in operation. I have not seen any reported membership figures for people who have joined via that route.

    Over 800,000 people registered an interest in Your Party over the summer.

    13,000 members will be selected by ballot to take part in the founding conference in Liverpool at the end of November.

    The Greens have doubled their membership to 150,000 since Zack Polanski was elected as leader - and some of those might have otherwise become Your Party members.

    Party rules will prevent membership of other political parties as well as Your Party.

    When membership figures are finally announced I would expect them to be in the 100,000 - 250,000 range. But that is just a guess.
    Thank you for your thorough reply Jon.

    Personally I find myself surrounded by a plethora of political parties, none of whom I want to vote for !!!!!!

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    More teething troubles - to put a very generous spin on it!

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ent-infighting

  13. #213

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    More teething troubles - to put a very generous spin on it!

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ent-infighting
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-jeremy-corbyn

    Looks like The Judean People's Front and The People's Front of Judea are at it again!

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    Its a bust flush surely

    I think the problem is the egos there are huge and this talk of working class solidarity is just nonsense , its so student politics it turns people off

  16. #216

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Thank you for your thorough reply Jon.

    Personally I find myself surrounded by a plethora of political parties, none of whom I want to vote for !!!!!!
    Vote Sludge

    For A Better Tomorrow

  17. #217

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Vote Sludge

    For A Better Tomorrow
    Might aswell…..
    You could wear a nice rainbow tie depicting all the various party colours hey

  18. #218

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Might aswellÂ…..
    You could wear a nice rainbow tie depicting all the various party colours hey
    Well it might be that some sort of rainbow coalition ends up running the country

    I would be entertainment minister and force everyone to listen to Machine Head

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    Re: New Party on the Left

    Sort of peace broken out in Liverpool.

    Confirmed party membership over 55,000 and rising.

    Collective leadership agreed (not Corbyn and not Corbyn/Sultana) (Sultana win)

    Joint membership (of other parties/organisations) agreed if transparent. (Sultana win)

    Party name confirmed as 'Your Party' (another vote where I lost!).

    Sultana making the running - which I think is a better sign than Corbyn (+ his 'staffers') winning the votes.

    Sultana loves Corbyn though - so peace and love all round!

    Both open to electoral pact with the Greens.

  20. #220

    Re: New Party on the Left

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Sort of peace broken out in Liverpool.

    Confirmed party membership over 55,000 and rising.

    Collective leadership agreed (not Corbyn and not Corbyn/Sultana) (Sultana win)

    Joint membership (of other parties/organisations) agreed if transparent. (Sultana win)

    Party name confirmed as 'Your Party' (another vote where I lost!).

    Sultana making the running - which I think is a better sign than Corbyn (+ his 'staffers') winning the votes.

    Sultana loves Corbyn though - so peace and love all round!

    Both open to electoral pact with the Greens.
    Its sunk

    In Wales Plaid are pissed off that the boyo branch of your party seem determined to stand candidates which will inevitably draw some former labour voters away from plaid and clearly increase the chances of reform getting in

    They are not making many friends

    I hope they sink out of sight and if labour continue to sink we have the choice of plaid in wales or the greens in England to defeat reform

    True socialism or whatever they want isnt the pressing issue at the moment , its keeping reform out !

    How can there be talk of a progressive alliance with the likes of sultana and corbyn involved ?

  21. #221

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Sort of peace broken out in Liverpool.

    Confirmed party membership over 55,000 and rising.

    Collective leadership agreed (not Corbyn and not Corbyn/Sultana) (Sultana win)

    Joint membership (of other parties/organisations) agreed if transparent. (Sultana win)

    Party name confirmed as 'Your Party' (another vote where I lost!).

    Sultana making the running - which I think is a better sign than Corbyn (+ his 'staffers') winning the votes.

    Sultana loves Corbyn though - so peace and love all round!

    Both open to electoral pact with the Greens.
    55,000. A little bit less than they were expecting after the huge number who signed up with their emails

    I think their shenanigans of the last few weeks (well months really) have put quite a number off joining up or pushed them into the hands of the greens.

  22. #222

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    If there was an election tomorrow I would rather vote for a left alternative to starmer but this corbyn thing would be a disaster
    I would imagine Corbyn is too Far-Right for you, even the Marxists are Right-Wing in your eyes

  23. #223

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I would imagine Corbyn is too Far-Right for you, even the Marxists are Right-Wing in your eyes
    Corbyn is a clown

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