Todays Budget

[North Cardiff Blue]

John and Jane would be better off packing in work They could blame it on stress and have a wealthier lifestyle.

Or say they've got ADHD, take the cash, the free ear buds and shite, blue badge and effectively retire at 17.

[North Cardiff Blue]

I found it quite boring tbh, and budgets are one of the few things for which that isn't a grave insult.

Relatively speaking there wasn't much in it. This lack of changing the tax thresholds is starting to annoy me. A year or two is fine but keeping them as they are for the best part of a decade fundamentally changes what a high earner is. It's also an easy way to put more money in lower earners pockets.

Minimum wage going is was inevitable and good for those on it of course, but I do worry we are at a point where businesses will see cutting jobs as a means to cut costs.

Agree on a few things they did re. increasing taxes on internet deliveries, online gambling, Uber etc. Personally I would have a flat 1% tax on all internet purchases to encourage in person activities.

What else was there? The budget leak beforehand was ridiculous, but the OBRs fault it seems. Kemi Badenochs budget response was ferocious, perhaps too much so.

I don't agree with the limits to ISAs, as stock investments are risky. People shouldn't feel compelled towards them. But you can still put a grand a month in a normal ISA so I'm not that concerned about people who can afford to do that.

Mixed feelings on the two child benefit limit. I'm not convinced it's a golden ticket as Universal , credit and housing benefit are greater than child benefit. Can see why it pisses off tax payers who struggle to pay for things for their own kids too.

Markets barely moved. No bad thing. Some stability is welcome I guess, but at the same time, I can't see it changing much really.

They can allocate the additional funds in S&S cash funds; they are not particularly risky at all.

[North Cardiff Blue]

A few takes on the reaction:

Racists like to say letÂ’s start with looking after our ownÂ…until you do and then they say you canÂ’t do that they are skivers and scroungers.

Business owners moan about taxes and costs but obviously want their own staff to work for nothing.

People with £1m houses bleat they are hard done by. Many are inherited but they whine that their ‘hard graft’ isn’t rewarded.

They all think an ambulance will arrive at their house on time financed by the tooth fairy.

It's stupid to tax a house if it's your main residence; it doesn't produce an income.

[Wales-Bales]

You aren’t trying to defend her are you? Seriously? WTF

I don't think he understands the role of the media in all of this.

[North Cardiff Blue]

The Tories take some beating, but this lot are surpassing all for lies and deceit…..can you imagine what the people that voted them in must be thinking, the ones that work and have a family that is….

Sludge said he couldn't wait, and they were going to change the World

Yes they have for the worse

[Eric Cartman]

It's stupid to tax a house if it's your main residence; it doesn't produce an income.

The house doesn't pay it.

Almost every tax that isn't income/capital gains is just a way to hide revenue generation because the population won't vote for it otherwise. We have a real problem with the juxtaposition of what the country wants/what the country is willing to do to make it happen.

We must build stuff - Not near me though
We must have strong public services - Not paid for by me though

and on and on..

[Eric Cartman]

I don't think he understands the role of the media in all of this.

Put your thoughts out there and let people respond to it..

[Wales-Bales]

Put your thoughts out there and let people respond to it..

No need for my ramblings, Noam Chomsky - The Political Economy of the Mass Media would be a good place to start, also his book Manufacturing Consent. But don't take his word for it, do some research and learn to think for yourself. The "weapons of mass destruction" is an interesting case study, but you could open up any news site to see the truth being leveraged on a daily basis. Good luck!

[Eric Cartman]

No need for my ramblings, Noam Chomsky - The Political Economy of the Mass Media would be a good place to start, also his book Manufacturing Consent. But don't take his word for it, do some research and learn to think for yourself. The "weapons of mass destruction" is an interesting case study, but you could open up any news site to see the truth being leveraged on a daily basis. Good luck!

I regret asking now. It's hard to find common areas of agreement with somebody is completely opposed (/scared?) to offering their own opinion, I don't think you realise how much it invalidates anything you say.

[Wales-Bales]

I regret asking now. It's hard to find common areas of agreement with somebody is completely opposed (/scared?) to offering their own opinion, I don't think you realise how much it invalidates anything you say.

Says the person who quotes extensively from one or two news sources, and you can't even identify the narrative engineering that is taking place before your eyes.

[Dorcus]

John and Jane would be better off packing in work They could blame it on stress and have a wealthier lifestyle.

Is that what the Doe's should do?

[Wales-Bales]

Is that what the Doe's should do?

Do as the Doe's does?

[Dorcus]

Do as the Doe's does?

Maresydotes and dozydotes and lilambszydivy, kidslydivy too, wouldn't you?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Says the person who quotes extensively from one or two news sources, and you can't even identify the narrative engineering that is taking place before your eyes.

" narrative engineering "

You conspiracy theorists are absolutely cabbage brained

[Eric Cartman]

Says the person who quotes extensively from one or two news sources, and you can't even identify the narrative engineering that is taking place before your eyes.

I can't really respond to detached vague statements like this..

I am not sure what you are referring to tbh. I very rarely base anything I think on news sources, most of what I talk about on here - nobody in the media cares or talks about. I just say what I see. Most of the media I would choose to read disagrees with me on migration, welfare, WFA, private schools etc. I base almost everything I think on one thing - fixed costs are too high (house price related and delivery model related i.e. energy). I don't know what you base what you think on, because you never get far enough into a post to say what you think.

[Wales-Bales]

" narrative engineering "

You conspiracy theorists are absolutely cabbage brained

" narrative engineering "

You conspiracy theorists are absolutely cabbage brained

You were a victim of narrative engineering, everybody saw how you were begging other people to tactically vote Starmer into power!

[Wales-Bales]

Only ccmb could turn 'economy in a better position than we thought' into 'grrr labour lying'.

The media spent months invoking doom and gloom every time some kind of macro indicator didn't hit a forecast precisely because reeves left herself with so little headroom that she was going to miss her rules, it's hardly surprising she's seeking a bit more.

Give your head another wobble!

[Heathblue]

Give your head another wobble!

It's the A4 degree certification see butt.
I note that the commies clamour for the Epstein files have gone on the back burner, has something changed ? or have they suddenly realised their favourite follows are more likely to be implicated rather than the target ?

I'm sure you will have seen the latest vaccine studies which will soon gain traction, fancy hiding the damming data or just plain ignoring it, it would appear that the death of children in the vaccine trials just wasn't enough to put a halt on things the dam is breaking.

Sometimes you cannot tell the people, you have the show them.
"Q"

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

You were a victim of narrative engineering, everybody saw how you were begging other people to tactically vote Starmer into power!

It's a stupid term dreamt up by nutcases

Who are all individual , critical thinkers

Who all come across as crackpots singing from the same book of nonsense

[Wales-Bales]

It's a stupid term dreamt up by nutcases

Who are all individual , critical thinkers

Who all come across as crackpots singing from the same book of nonsense

FFS, it's been around for centuries and you can even do courses on it.

[Wales-Bales]

It's a stupid term dreamt up by nutcases

Look out Sludge, he's behind you!

[Wales-Bales]

Sometimes you cannot tell the people, you have the show them.

Mr Cartman claims he doesn't pay attention to the media, yet he blames them for pushing Reeves into that ridiculous budget situation without considering that they may have been in cahoots. The latter option would be textbook Chomsky Manufacturing Consent 101. But no, that would be a CONSPIRACY THEORY, LOL.

[Eric Cartman]

Mr Cartman claims he doesn't pay attention to the media, yet he blames them for pushing Reeves into that ridiculous budget situation without considering that they may have been in cahoots. The latter option would be textbook Chomsky Manufacturing Consent 101. But no, that would be a CONSPIRACY THEORY, LOL.

If by 'ridiculous budget situation' you mean a few nothing tax rises to create a situation where the government is less affected by .x changes to macro-economic forecasts then sure I think the media have probably pushed her into being a bit less blindly optimistic but constantly talking about how shit the UK is.

Yes everybody already knows that governments try and use the media to drip feed/test policy. It would seem weird if they were in cahoots given the massively negative coverage Reeves has gotten since the budget.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

FFS, it's been around for centuries and you can even do courses on it.

Narrative engineering , piss off

Its just a freaky name for what all people do ....try to influence others to get their way , win the arguement

But you conspiracy freaks have to think its part of some huge event , group , movement

Its embarrassing

Get a hobby

[Wales-Bales]

Narrative engineering , piss off

Its just a freaky name for what all people do ....try to influence others to get their way , win the arguement

But you conspiracy freaks have to think its part of some huge event , group , movement

Its embarrassing

Get a hobby

People talk shit, the media do narrative engineering or manufacturing consent as Chomsky put it, and they influence people like you, e.g. your OTT tactically vote for Starmer campaign! Very sad