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I'll wager anyone with an IQ of less than 90 will say "Good for Nige, tell it how it is". He certainly won't lose their support, the question is whether they can get out of Wetherspoons to vote for him.Originally Posted by Hilts
As for whether it costs votes..ask yourself, did you vote for Labour after the numerous Jewish MPs left because they felt they couldn't be in the same party?
In other words... you'll still be voting for Farage then?
No I didn't vote Labour
1 / General election is at least three years away
2 / You vote for a local candidate
3 / I'll take account of a tonne of factors. What som one may have said 50 years ago is part of it, but the idea it would trump far more pertinent factors is farcical.
4 / Don't know yet. Tbh, Labour are getting to grips with immigration numbers which is good. If this was the last miserable budget then that changes things too. The Tories seem off the floor. The Lib Dems are usually a good local bet. I won't vote Greens at a national level and I won't vote Plaid on principle, but apart from that, the vote is up for grabs!
My point is though, that if you guys think a story about what someone may have said 50 years ago is a huge game changer then you haven't been paying attention, as what has happened elsewhere, in far more recent times, demonstrates that.
Personally I think Farage probably said things that were deemed acceptable at the time legally, but would still amount to bullying, and I don't doubt he was a bit of a bully at school. He should apologise for any hurt caused. But he does have a point that things were very different fifty years ago. Things were very different ten years ago. And things may be very different in ten years time, which is a point I have made elsewhere.
So no, I genuinely don't know where my next vote will go. As things stand though, I definitely think Wales needs a break from Labour and Labour needs a break from Wales. So I definitely won't be voting for them in the senedd. As for Westminster, theres a torrent or water to pass under any bridges yet. 👍
Yes would have done.
Bit ironic given the uselessness of your reply there.
IÂ’m old enough to remember what life was like fifty years ago and yes there was plenty of stuff said that would be considered to be racist today. What I cannot recall though is anyone saying to Jewish youngsters that Hitler was right and turning the letter s into a hiss to imitate the noise made in the gas ovens of concentration camps.
They are desperate to write this off as harmless banter for the time.
Its pathetic. But not surprising.
The story is, of course, about Farage's words and behaviour when he was an obnoxious, racist schoolboy. But it is more about Farage's words and behaviours now when faced with this account of his past.
The deflection and evasion is a window on his sordid character, once again.
Surely Farages ex school colleagues should have brought all this up the moment he got into politics? May have scuppered his political career before it began.
What a pity they didn't
It’s not long ago Nige was parading a convicted racist (who incidentally pled guilty) at his party conference.
If it walks, talks and walks like a racist, well you know the rest.
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